It is dead simple to get a bogus COP of 9 with an IR camera.
Not according to Para. He assumes you would need to be off by 3x on the input power to get the COP to 9 using a thermal camera. So not only would you have to royally muff the emisivity settings, you would have to royally triple-muff the input power.
I don't think they ever truly intended to pay for ICCF.
You don't think based on what? I am sure they did. Why wouldn't they? It was a tiny expense compared to what they planned to spend on R&D, and the benefits of hosting it are clear. (Okay, not clear to you, but they are clear to me.)
You believe all kinds of things without a shred of evidence or any rational reason. You think I.H. knows the Rossi gadget works, yet after spending $11 million, they threw away hundreds of billions . . . Why? You can't come up with a reason. You just believe it. Oh, because Rossi says so! Right?
Not according to Para. He assumes you would need to be off by 3x on the input power to get the COP to 9 using a thermal camera. So not only would you have to royally muff the emisivity settings, you would have to royally triple-muff the input power.
Which Rossi has also said it is OK to do!
He stated that reversed clamps do not matter in ac measurements, because ac is not polarised. In this case 1 reversed clamp gives 3X higher input power than expected.
Now the difficult bit for IHFB to follow. 3 x 3 = .....
9
He stated that reversed clamps do not matter in ac measurements, because ac is not polarised. In this case 1 reversed clamp gives 3X higher input power than expected.
Except that the reversed clamp FUD was thoroughly debunked--multiple times now.
You think I.H. knows the Rossi gadget works, yet after spending $11 million, they threw away hundreds of billions . . . Why? You can't come up with a reason. You just believe it. Oh, because Rossi says so! Right?
Probably because:
1) They never could raise the total amount of $ needed;
2) They felt that they already had a fully paid-up license, as Dewey repeatedly asserted here; and
3) They had the know-how they needed already and doubted the strength of Rossi's single granted patent, and suspected that he would struggle to get any more granted by the USPTO.
Except that the reversed clamp FUD was thoroughly debunked--multiple times now.
IHFB. That is either deliberately deceitful, or you are mistaken. A reversed ac clamp, or one of the other input-side errors Rossi is so good at providing, is entirely on the cards for the COP = 9 irreproducible result. Of course, it could be something else. But Rossi likes to repeat his effects when he can and Dameron based on his deposition seems to have been pretty easy to deceive. Only you would view such a fragmentary result as substantiating Rossi's claims. You are no engineer.
You are not paying attention to the discussion here, or you do not understand it. It is dead simple to get a bogus COP of 9 with an IR camera.
@Jed: Why did IH not debunk Rossi????
Why do the IH believers still fiercely post? (IH - what a nice hook - top label - for a profit railgun construct.)
You should bash IH instead for blatant inability, for ruthless
money eagerness, for selecting a dilettante law company, unable to
fight a small, yet brilliant attorney...
Or do you want to tell us there is more about? Do we really have to believe, that deep state still wants to block any public LENR progress?
Please stop to distract the field. IH (not AR) failed on all fields, that was it.
Could somebody explain to me what an IH believer is? They are a paper company that made a terrible investment. What's to believe in?
That is bullshit. I have read Italian media attacks against Rossi far stronger than what I
Maybe your knowledge of Italian is not as good as you think 
Maybe your knowledge of Italian is not as good as you think
I use Google translate. I can easily understand the gist of it.
If you go to the trouble to look up the names and C.V.s of the researchers in the major papers from 1989 through 2000 or so, you can easily determine that those people are now somewhere between 80 and 100 years old if they are still alive. Very few people still conduct laboratory research at those ages. Most of them are dead. You can confirm that with an actuarial table.
I have their obituaries so I know which ones are dead, but you don't need that information. Surely you know that most people are dead by age 90, and very few are capable of doing laboratory research.
They made good progress while they lived and had funding. They did get better results. A few of them still are getting better results.
Jed - I live in DC and I get this message. There are real scientists working on this. Either way they just want to know.
And on the contrary, i think the court case and all the documents have not only made people curious about Rossi, he now seems more legit than before.
wcg,
That may be easy to say, but I would like to see you show what in the documents make Rossi look "more legit than before".
Hi Shane D.,
The dossier in its totality is having that effect. Of course, there are documents that show the cheeky side Rossi has, but in general i suspect that in retrospect Rossi will be happy with the publicity that came with the court case.
Cheers,
JB
@wcg
I can see how it seems like that to you. Can I suggest this is because you see things through the ECW filter? This makes every positive statement from Rossi an likely engineering advance, and just plain ignores negative facts. After all, on ECW, if you post negative facts you get perma-banned. Somewhat different from the policy here where no-one gets banned for posting fact whatever the slant.
1) The QuarkX is absurdly, jaw-droppingly, hilariously impossible and nonsensical in every way.
2) There is absolutely zero evidence of any sort for its existence at all.
And yet, the Rossi faithful believe that the QuarkX is "the answer". That tells me all I need to know about anyone who still thinks Rossi is for real.
You're talking about an object you don't know, no one knows anything about QuarkX except the little that Rossi has anticipated, so saying that the QuarkX is nonsensical is in itself a nonsense. As for the evidence of its existence, wait a few more months and you will see it yourself.
Which way hurting?- good question -> You know maybe it is helping.... but not that I can see it. He may have driven some folks to look at LENR. But to answer your question directly ; he is causing people that have funds away from the field. As they see it as toxic.
How can you say that? Have you seen investors flee in front of LENRs? So far I've seen Woodford invest a good amount of money in the field, and he claimed that the E-Cat was the core of his business, so Rossi has increased the investment in this area, not the other.
I am a strong believer in LENR. Maybe if I could ask him someday.... I would say 'why don't you retire take the money and enjoy life and not get poked by all these people? '
The very fact that he did not escape to enjoy his 10M $ but instead continues to work on the improvements to be made to his invention tells you many things about his personality and his strong motivations. I do not think he will retire so soon.....sorry for you!
I was not talking about science. Nor is Rossi! Rossi has (he claims) an invention which is obviously highly commercialisable, and disruptive. Rossi is somehwat ambiguous about science - he enjoys publishing papers in his pretend journal - but his scientific record is appalling so that even supporters have to frame his claimed achievements as those of a practical inventor interested only in working commercial product but not in careful scientific tests of same.
Rossi is not a scientist, he has never pretended to be. He is an entrepreneur and an inventor, so there is no reason why he should publish scientific articles. The fact that he is interested only in working commercial products (assuming it's true) is not at all strange for a businessman, who indeed turned to scientists when he wanted to make his creation tested by third parties, so I would not say that he is not interested in careful scientific tests!
As you pointed out, IH accepted the ERV, paid half of the ERV's fee, accepted (or at least did not object to initially) the quarterly reports, and even raised tens of millions of dollars on the back of them. Even IH's attorneys did not press the notion of there not being a GPT very hard. Only the most hardened IH fans on this forum (e.g., Abd and then THH picking up the slack after Abd departed) argued vociferously that it wasn't.
You are right, IH did nothing to let Rossi know that the test for them was not the GPT, even when Rossi publicly affirmed it on his blog. It is clear that this was in IH's interests: they kept Rossi calm for the time needed to raise funds, but when the complaint came, they hastened to say that the test was not the GPT, despite the many similarities.
SSC said "You're talking about an object you don't know, no one knows anything about QuarkX"
Exactly, and yet you and other Rossi worshippers are quite confident that it is a great thing. Why? Because Rossi said so.
I rest my case.
