​New E-Cat QX Picture and New Rossi-Gullstrom Paper (Very high COP reported with Calorimetry)​

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Rossi recycles the same rewarmed scam again and again. Compare the piece of junk he foisted on investors in 2011 with the garbage he is pushing now. The only difference is that instead of rusty pipe salvaged from a toilet plumbing store, he went to Home Depot and bought a $2 piece of PVC pipe. The ends don't even line up properly! Look at the part covered with plastic tape -- Rossi didn't even bother to make it straight for the photos.

The old and the new scams will work equally well, that is to say not at all, when properly tested, which probably will be a long time in happening. Whether there really are still investors dumb enough to give Rossi money for the new silly kludges remains to be seen but I would not doubt it.

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Good grief, that stuff makes any respectable plumber, not to mention machinist or engineer, cringe in embarrassment.

Also here:

Tritium evolution from various morphologies of palladium (Technical Report) | SciTech Connect

(D. G. Tuggle, 1993)

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Reverse causality error

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So it was not the appearance of an arc caused tritium levels to increase but rather the other way around? And they still haven't noticed this after 24 more years of work?

And Rossi is using radioactive gases in his QuarkX?

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The experiment was not described in detail because it was not the purpose of the article that, I repeat, is focused on theoretical concepts.

Ok, let's run with this possibility for a moment. Suppose I write up a theoretical paper on the mean lifetime of K mesons and then include an appendix with two sections giving the bare outlines of the results of two experiments relating to an exciting and secret technology that will soon be on the market. One of the sections sets out claims about how the the core of the apparatus exhibits superconductivity at 1000 C. In introducing this section, have I given support to the theoretical discussion of the lifetime of K mesons and increased its overall credibility? Does the brief section in the appendix on superconductivity answer a question about K meson lifetime? Suppose the answer is "yes" in some vague sense if you squint your eyes. Does the section succeed in not raising more questions than it answers?

Dear Colleagues,

I waited over 3 days before make comments, about the recent Gullstrom-Rossi paper related to QuarkX, published in the arXiv repository at Cornell University (USA).

* First question is: who endorsed such paper for repository, according to the written rules of arXiv organization?

It is a Scientific repository, not a Patent office.

* It is possible that in the quite complex paper (about 18 - 20 pages), in the short experimental example (the most interesting part, in my opinion), the KEY information about voltage drop (and its dynamic behaviour, if any) at the reactor input is fully omitted ?

* In principle, during the function of QuarkX in the "active mode" (i.e. after proper activation by high voltage pulses, I suppose), the voltage drop can be close to zero or even PRODUCE some current (as experienced, at low intensity, in our surface-modified Constantan wires since May 2014).

* The key point, I repeat, is that Dr. Andrea Rossi should give more details of the experiments, if he decided to put the paper in a public repository.

* Sorry if, as usual, I am quite direct making comments/opinions.

My best,

Francesco CELANI

(previous Vice-President of ISCMNS).

Regarding: "And then there was b) which was an “Additional Element”, and there was no mention of this in the patent. So what does this mean for your patent if you do not include that Additional Element?"

It is unlikely that there are two different plasma reactions discovered in overunity research. IMHO, more likely than not Rossi and R, Mills are working with the same plasma based reaction. Mills also says he is using a secret oxygen carrying metallic oxide compound to ignite the plasma in his reaction. Now Rossi says he is also using a secret compound. .So it goes to reason that the Rossi secret additive is an oxygen base compound. The compound that Mills is using might be vanadium oxide.

Vanadium(II) oxide, has a vaporization point ( Boiling point - 2,627 °C (4,761 °F; 2,900 K) where the oxygen is liberated that fits well into the plasma temperature range that the QuarkX is running at.

The problem that Rossi might face is that this oxygen based additive and its various alternatives have already been patented by R.Mills, so Rossi might have some IP problems ahead.

Dr. Celani,

I agree that the experimental parameters in the recently released paper are sparse, which is a cause of great consternation on this forum and elsewhere. I presume Rossi is walking a tight line between the scientific world and industrial concerns.

Gratefully, Rossi has promised Frank that additional details would be released at the upcoming demonstration planned for this October.

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* In principle, during the function of QuarkX in the "active mode" (i.e. after proper activation by high voltage pulses, I suppose), the voltage drop can be close to zero or even PRODUCE some current (as experienced, at low intensity, in our surface-modified Constantan wires since May 2014).

When Rossi first discovered the plasma bas LENR reaction, he stated that the COP wos divided into three components: Light, Heat, and direct electric Current.

I remember back then that Rossi claimed that the current percentage of the COP was 10%. Even very recently, Rossi has confirmed that the QuarkX is producing a proportion of its COP as direct electric current but not enough to commercialize that format for energy production. For a total QuarkX power output of 20 watts, it is reasonable to expect that 10% of that power is in the form of direct current or 2 watts.

A lot of the discussion has been about reactor voltage and resistance. I'd like to submit that it is unlikely that those values are constant, especially when comparing start up and steady state.

Once again, we are looking at instant power in vs out (assuming that the reactor has no resistance when in steady state).

I believe we also need to look at overall energy in vs out before getting excited about a COP=20,000.

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I'd like to submit that it is unlikely that those values are constant, especially when comparing start up and steady state.

Can a circuit with a section that is a plasma channel (with possibly negative resistance) be in a steady state?

From the eyewitness description of the QuarkX that Alan Smith gave us as follows:

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I do remember. BTW, eye witness accounts claim that the tube itself is transparent, and the electrodes bright silver colour. nothing is visible in the gap. I have no idea about sealing or anything else - except that the plasma can apparently be made 'any colour you like'. The example shown was glowing yellow when energised for short periods. That's all the info I have.

The transparent tube is not obscured by wiring, so the quadrupole field must be produced by circuit loops at the ends of the tube (maybe boron nitride). A possible endcap circuit might look like this:

Andrea Rossi

July 23, 2017 at 2:57 PM

Anonymous:

The E-Cat QX has the same conductivity of Silver.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Hey Mary, for the ninth tenth time, the bit about the extra wires is on slides 21 & 27

Regarding:...even PRODUCE some current (as experienced, at low intensity, in our surface-modified Constantan wires since May 2014).

Consistent with the standard model theory of particle physics, there is only one way to produce excess electrons in a LENR reaction. That way is from muon decay. Any LENR system that is producing excess electrons is also producing muons.

How about Neutron beta-decay : electron and proton? (Admittedly the result is charge-neutral).