The hydrino does not react to EMF but it has mass because it is purported to produce gravitational effects.
axil : Physics is slightly more complex that mind-shredering papers. Of course do Hydrinos react with EMF. But the zone of interaction is very narrow. The spin-flip transition is always allowed as other non orbital changes too.
axil : Physics is slightly more complex that mind-shredering papers. Of course do Hydrinos react with EMF. But the zone of interaction is very narrow. The spin-flip transition is always allowed as other non orbital changes too.
Mills has been writing mind-shredding papers since 1990, and you have read most of them. Before Mills got so involved in all that writing, he should have come up with a way to detect and characterize these hydrinos through experiment in such a way that these experiments are convincing and self evident. In this way, the hydrino would have been widely accepted by science as real.
The polariton is an example of how a hard to understand and detect particle was first detected, then characterized and now widely accepted with many thousands of papers about them written every year. It is even possible to become tenured in science using the polariton as a subject of science. The same should be true for the hydrino but Mills has not done the work to made such things possible.
I don't get the impression that Mills is much interested characterizing the Hydrino. He seems mostly concerned with its formation and the spectrum given by the process (and the industrially useful energy it gives off).
On the other hand, Holmlid never seemed to be much interested describing what happens during UDH formation, mostly to characterize it once formed.
By the way, here's the full paper from Badiei and Holmlid published in 2002 on the proposal of Rydberg matter could be a dark matter candidate due to its properties. By their own admission it's more a speculative suggestion than a full theory, and the subject wasn't touched often. This was before they found about ultra-dense Hydrogen:
https://www.researchgate.net/p…ity_condensed_dark_matter (scroll down for the full paper available for reading)
AFAIK they've also published other papers in the past linking Rydberg matter with natural phenomena in the Universe or suggesting a relationship.
The proposition that the hydrino is dark matter is critical for Mills theory because this bark matter idea supports the assertion that the SunCell produces energy with only hydrinos as dark matter is its ash. If hydrinos are not dark matter then the SunCell must produce ash. If the SunCell produces ash, then it must be a LENR reaction. In other words, the hydrino is malarky.
It doesn't matter much if it's dark matter (no pun intended), but more if it can be interacted with after it has been formed. The idea that it's a gas lighter than air that escapes any container and eventually goes into space after it forms seems to dodge this issue, but in the excerpt below from a 1998 interview from Infinite Energy with Randell Mills there's a clear suggestion that it's not intangible matter. So on this aspect it wouldn't be in principle too much different from Rydberg matter/UDH (except that these aren't supposed to be gases but rather, condensed matter):
http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/RosenblumIE17.pdf
QuoteDisplay More[...] RM: With no pollution because what you form is a lower energy chemical form of molecular hydrogen that does not react. In fact, you can look at the spectrum of the Sun and you can see the spectrum of lower energy molecular hydrogen, and it’s stable at 2 million degrees. It won’t even react or fall apart at 2 million degrees!
AR: I see.
RM: It’s lighter than air, so it goes out into space. And if you are worried about something in the gas, it’s non reactive. You can breath helium, you can breathe argon, you can breathe neon. Every time you breathe, 80% of the air you are breathing is nitrogen that doesn’t react with anything in your body.
AR: Exactly.
RM: This is much more stable than nitrogen. Much, much more stable. In fact, you couldn’t even keep it in your body. You couldn’t even keep it in the atmosphere- it would just diffuse out into space because it’s very, very light and it travels through containers very easily.
AR: Could it be kept in balloons.
RM: Well it would be very difficult. You could probably keep it in a mylar balloon for some period of time, but it would be difficult.
AR: I see. So, much more difficult than ordinary hydrogen?
RM: Oh much more difficult to store than normal hydrogen.
The polariton is an example of how a hard to understand and detect particle was first detected
The polariton is a quasi particle. For our discussion we should clearly distinguish real physical particles and quasiparticles, which are an aspect of matter rather than matter itself.
Before Mills got so involved in all that writing, he should have come up with a way to detect and characterize these hydrinos through experiment in such a way that these experiments are convincing and self evident.
Mills writing about hydrinos is premature. He himself does not include the stored magnetic energy as all other users of the relativistic Dirac Equation do too. He also gives no force-equation of the trapped photon, which should act as a magnetic force provide to increase the central force.
Nevertheless, there are other models and explanations, which can deliver similar results. May be he knows this too, but is not allowed to publish it...
The idea that it's a gas lighter than air that escapes any container and eventually goes into space after it forms seems to dodge this issue, but in the excerpt below from a 1998 interview from Infinite Energy with Randell Mills there's a clear suggestion that it's not intangible matter.
This is nonsense. The difference in weight between a "hydrino" and plain vanilla Hydrogen is a few eV, thus it's slightly lighter than Hydrogen. But as the radius shrinks, the stored magnetic energy and the density of the field increases with n2. A Hydrino is a strong dipole, which will glue to any magnetic matter.
Jacques Dufour presented in Asti a paper of Iron plus pico-H = magnetic "to iron bound hydrogen".
I would say that a free hydrino is more dangerous than anything else. This follows from the discussion/presentation with Jacques Dufour. Thus there is an urgent need to keep them back!
The polariton is a quasi particle. For our discussion we should clearly distinguish real physical particles and quasiparticles, which are an aspect of matter rather than matter itself.
The fundamental particles:
All other particles are a combination of these fundamental particles even the hydrino...dark matter... HeHeHe,
This is nonsense. The difference in weight between a "hydrino" and plain vanilla Hydrogen is a few eV, thus it's slightly lighter than Hydrogen. But as the radius shrinks, the stored magnetic energy and the density of the field increases with n2. A Hydrino is a strong dipole, which will glue to any magnetic matter.
Jacques Dufour presented in Asti a paper of Iron plus pico-H = magnetic "to iron bound hydrogen".
I would say that a free hydrino is more dangerous than anything else. This follows from the discussion/presentation with Jacques Dufour. Thus there is an urgent need to keep them back!
My point was that the Hydrino being dark matter (as thought by Mills) doesn't necessarily imply that it cannot interact at all with regular matter. This was meant in turn to reinforce the idea that dark matter doesn't necessarily have to be a new fundamental particle, only to have a collection of properties that haven't been observed elsewhere.
I have an opinion about the latest Mizumo system.
In the Lugano test, Rossi loaded the fuel into the tube in the air, Mizuno excludes air in his preparations to get his reactor to function,. What is the difference in the fuel between the two systems?
I beleive that the Rossi fuel preparation process is producing a LENR active form of hydrogen that is somehow sequestered inside the nickel particles. Maybe this hydrogen is ultra dense hydrogen.
Mizuno could be producing this special form of hydrogen in his fuel preparation process concurrent with palladium nanoparticle production. When the ultra dense hydrogen is prepared, then the LENR reaction begins.
I understand that Holmlid produces UDH and stores it in the air, When he excites it with light, it increases its activity even if air is present.
Nitrogen interferes with the quantum mechanical processes that produce the UDH. UDH is rugged stuff. After the UDH is created then the presence of nitrogen in the fuel does not matter anymore.
I understand that Holmlid produces UDH and stores it in the air, When he excites it with light, it increases its activity even if air is present.
Nitrogen interferes with the quantum mechanical processes that produce the UDH. UDH is rugged stuff. After the UDH is created then the presence of nitrogen in the fuel does not matter anymore.
From what sources in particular did you get this understanding?
From what sources in particular did you get this understanding?
From the Lugano paper, the Rossi parent, and the Mizuno paper.
Those are not sources showing what Holmlid does.
On one hand, the preparation of Holmlid's Fe2O3:K catalysts for the production of UDH does take place in the presence of oxygen (and a hydrocarbon gas) as per standard procedure for this kind of industrial catalyst, and actually requires some oxygen in order to not get irreversibly reduced over time. On the other hand, I'm not sure if once this preparation is complete and Holmlid starts producing the H(0), he "stores" it in air/standard atmosphere.
The large bond energy should suggest it's very stable and according to Holmlid's latest paper it should be stable even at the temperatures of the Sun. However, in a paper submitted to Arxiv in 2013 (published) he suggests that it will form water if it's exposed to air; in another paper written in the same year (also published), that a reducible metal oxide surface disrupts it.
If there are some similarities to the Hydrino, it should be able to be formed even in the presence of oxygen. This is what appears to be happening at the iron oxide catalyst. From the information published so far it appears as if storage could be a different story.
Excerpts from my notes (taken from Holmlid's papers):
Sources:
What might carry the Ultra dense hydrogen in the Rossi fuel is its lithium content. A method used in hydogen storage is nanoconfinement where lithium hydride is encapsulated in other material to protect it. The lithium particles in the Lugano fuel assay had many other elements incorporated in its structure.
See
https://www.rdmag.com/news/201…hydrogen-powered-vehicles
From the Lugano fuel assay, the percent of sodium and magnesium are high in the lithium complex. These elements could have been used to produce nanoconfinement of the Lithium hydride and possibly the UDH nanoparticle itself.
Axil, sorry but really it seems that you smoke a lot !!
What you speculate about Lugano is so wrong !
We see by this way you didn't studied anythink correct about Lugano and you are still sticked on your phantasmagoric assumptions.
if you well know hydrides such as LIH you would know too that only 40% of lithium atoms could do LIH. This is why 60% of Li atoms remains available to suck "air" from dead volume ( by LIOH or Li oxide way) to reach zero pressure when the reactor starts.
After the fuel processing step, all the lithium would have been combined with other elements having already been exposed to the air. The fuel was observed to be composed of fine gray particles made up of many elements.
From the Lugano paper:
"Besides the analyzed elements it has been found that the fuel also contains rather high concentrations of C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, Mn and these are not found in the ash."
Axil,
I respect your opinion but it stays in years of light from my understanding.
For myself, you have to know Lugano process should be a "pulsed dusty plasma process" with strong discharges made by "LIH" recombination.
Ask Dewey, necessarily, it must know....
I agree, the Lugano fuel preparation process was most likely a "pulsed dusty plasma process". The plasma process is what converted the 5 micro nickel particles into 1 to 100 micron particles.
The reactor operational stage was not based on plasma discharge.
Nobody knows how Lugano worked exactly (or is willing to share to others) and I doubt that IH is providing proper information about it. As far as I'm concerned, the entire ceramic tube itself might have been "the catalyst", and the powder could have been a decoy except perhaps for the hydrogen source as LiAlH4.
Incidentally, Holmlid describes one such possible device in his lapsed patent application. This also brings the discussion back in-topic.
https://www.google.com/patents/EP2680271A1
Quote[0026] Thus, according to various embodiments, a cross-sectional area of the conduit, at the catalyst site, may be greater than a cross-sectional area of the hydrogen transfer catalyst, so that the hydrogen in the gaseous state can flow through the conduit without having to pass through an interior of the hydrogen transfer catalyst. The hydrogen transfer catalyst may, for example, be arranged so that there is a flow gap between the hydrogen transfer catalyst and the inner wall of the conduit. Alternatively or in combination, the hydrogen transfer catalyst may itself be tubular, so that a conduit is formed through the hydrogen transfer catalyst.
The fundamental particles:
axil: The big error of standard physics is SU(3,1) and the rules of symmetry based on this math.
According to 4D pure Maxwell based physics, there is no longer any symmetry and the muon & tau shows up as a resonance of the electron and thus is no longer fundamental.
This can be calculated with close to 7 digits precision far better than any theories based on weird S(3,1)...
The fact that LENR fuel can be prepared as a sideline activity is remarkable. This fact means that the LENR fuel contains a LENR active causation mechanism. Rossi is not the only LENR developer that produces LENR fuel, The ECCO reactor uses LENR fuel. This fuel is prepared by using cavitation. MFMP is in the process of characterizing this fuel. They have now seen how this fuel eats away at plastic.
See the series of videos describing the MFMP efforts in LENR fuel research that begins as follows:
MFMP has detected particle reacts in the photo emulsions used in this type research.
Before giving MFMP a large sample of ECCO 'fuel', Suhas Ralkar wanted to warn them about a curious property it has, it likes to destroy the Polyethylene (PET) bottle he was about to supply it in. He took another sample from the shelf and held it aloft and just with a slight pressure from his fingers, the whole thing exploded!
What I think is happening to produce the deterioration of the plastic bottle containing the ECCO fuel is nuclear reactions produced by the nuclear active agents residing in the ECCO fuel. This agent can then move forward to penetrate the plastic and react with the plastic in the second plastic container. and then pass through that second barrier and react with the seal of the neutron detector tube.
Georges Lochak and Leonid Urutskoev attempted to characterize this agent and found that the agent passed through aluminum but would not pass through iron, a magnetic material.
MFMP can use the deterioration of the plastic bottle as an experimental probe to see what materials this agent will pass through and which materials will contain it.
John Fisher found that this agent was constrained inside a rubber seal in his experimental setup and the activated seal produced tracks in CR39 detector. He also saw CR39 tracts in the steam coming out of a electrolysis experiment presumably produced by the LENR active agent.
Reference: http://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/327squeeze.html
A cluster of particles of abit 2 MeV were produced in a star burst pattern
The tracts in the plastic point back to the center of the starburst pattern.
