NASA: New Paper about Experimental Progress

    • Official Post

    I had a look, but couldn't find this posted anywhere. From Oct 2019.

    Gamma energy evaluation for creation of 111m Cd, 113m In, and 115m In isotopes

    NASA Glenn Research Center is investigating nuclear reactions in deuterated materials exposed to bremsstrahlung photons with kinetic energies from 1-3 MeV. Recent experiments used a continuous beam Dynamitron electron accelerator with a braking target. Electron beam energy loss verification was desired and experiments using cadmium and indium were completed which are known to transition to excited metastable states after exposure to bremsstrahlung photons. The gamma spin-up of 111Cd, 113In, and 115In are with photon beam energies of 1017 keV, 1024 keV, and 941 keV respectively. Recent tests corroborated published gamma energies using a beam energy loss of 62 to 74 keV.


    https://www.researchgate.net/p…m_In_and_115m_In_isotopes


    In the paper Forsley spends some time talking about Magnetic Miles LLC. They seem to pop up regularly now: Clearance Items


    Never heard a thing about them until recently, or if I did it did not register. They are still in business: https://www.magneticmilesllc.com/ Anyone have any new info about them?

  • In the paper Forsley spends some time talking about Magnetic Miles LLC. They seem to pop up regularly now: Clearance Items


    Never heard a thing about them until recently, or if I did it did not register. They are still in business: https://www.magneticmilesllc.com/ Anyone have any new info about them?

    What is their source of energy for the magnon based device? Seems like a way to harness thermal energy from any source. The nuclear remediation stuff is always a blessing and more along with the 1000 COP as an atomic energy source phenomina. Would be interested to see more than the website.

    • Official Post

    Dennis Bushnell of NASA is still speaking positive about LENR. Some other good information in the article, so read it all:

    https://medium.com/@timventura…-spaceflight-315210742679


    "Additionally, there’s also low-energy nuclear reactions (LENR), which we’re working on here. We’ve got 22 years and hundreds of experiments now on low-energy nuclear reactions which indicate that this is real. Plus, we now have a theory that indicates that it’s condensed-matter nuclear physics.

    So LENR appears to be collective effects, not particle physics. It seems that you can get around Coloumb barrier by forming ultra weak neutrons using heavy electrons. This not only enables you to form the neutrons, but also convert the gamma radiation from beta-decay into thermal energy so that you don’t need as much radiation protection. LENR is expected to be anywhere from 20,000 to 3 million times chemical efficiency, and if we can get that in place it will truly revolutionize space."

  • LENR is expected to be anywhere from 20,000 to 3 million times chemical efficiency, and if we can get that in place it will truly revolutionize space."


    Revolutionise space but not the Earth..?? That might be too confronting for the status quo and the DOE..

    .appears to be collective effects, not particle physics

    It seems that you can get around Coulomb barrier by forming ultra weak neutrons using heavy electrons.


    I'd like to to see the NASA data on that

    .. it seems and it appears... indicate to me that NASA still has not much idea about the fundamental mechanism

    but is encouraging that NASA admit 22 yrs /100 of expts that showthe LENR effect is real..

    the prevailing paradigm is starting to crack...

  • Dennis Bushnell of NASA is still speaking positive about LENR. Some other good information in the article, so read it all:

    https://medium.com/@timventura…-spaceflight-315210742679


    Dennis Bushnell also says when talking about LENR :"It seems that you can get around Coulomb barrier by forming ultra weak neutrons using heavy electrons."


    I does anyone have a reference to using heavy electrons to form ultra weak neutrons? What is the theory that makes heavy electrons? If we had heavy electrons, isn't that muon fusion?


    This technology seems similar to mine. Colder fusion reduces the positive charge of fusion reactants, hence reduces the Coulomb barrier. One can calculated the % of neutron-like character based on ratio of the energy required for the weak-interacting quantum state relative to energy required to transform an electron, a neutrino and a proton to a neutron. The shielding factor can then be used in the equation for the coulomb barrier to calculate how much less energy is required for fusion. Unfortunately, colder fusion is a multi-body problem.


    Because there are 240 quantum states between hydrogen ionization and neutron formation (13.5878925 eV to 0.7824260693 Mev), and all these states are formed at the same time and they all have dipoles, a cluster of neutron-like atoms at various step towards formation of a neutron form a cluster which is like a nano-size star. This nano-star is likely the true character of an NAE in LENR.


  • Heavy electrons were posted by Widom & Larsen as a way to make (possibly slow) neutrons from protons. Obviously the electron needs to provide the necessary mass difference => very fast.


    If this step did work, then all those slow neutrons lumbering around would indeed catalyse nuclear reactions. A shame that the contentious W-L steps don't seem to have gained much traction, neither experimental nor theoretical.


    https://arxiv.org/abs/0802.0466

  • This technology seems similar to mine. Colder fusion reduces the positive charge of fusion reactants, hence reduces the Coulomb barrier. One can calculated the % of neutron-like character based on ratio of the energy required for the weak-interacting quantum state relative to energy required to transform an electron, a neutrino and a proton to a neutron. The shielding factor can then be used in the equation for the coulomb barrier to calculate how much less energy is required for fusion. Unfortunately, colder fusion is a multi-body problem.


    Because there are 240 quantum states between hydrogen ionization and neutron formation (13.5878925 eV to 0.7824260693 Mev), and all these states are formed at the same time and they all have dipoles, a cluster of neutron-like atoms at various step towards formation of a neutron form a cluster which is like a nano-size star. This nano-star is likely the true character of an NAE in LENR.

    Sounds exactly like some form of a dense hydrogen cluster (nanostar). This is mostly semantics. Wyttenbach Ok so according to your theory the proton charge wave decays into stable electrons?

  • A nanostar would be a dense hydrogen cluster but each hydrogen state has a half-life. In theory one uses the decay time of a non-nuclear region neutron and the % neutron-like character to calculate the decay time. The assumption is that decay time and time dilation are the same effect. Since, special relativity causes both decay time and "density" (contraction of space), each atom's decay time and density is correlated. The cluster is held together by the polarization of the atom due to relativity and the magnitude of that attraction increases with amount of energy of above the ground state in each atom. So the cluster has a density function across its radius and is not composed of uniform density atoms. I suppose the most non star like characteristic is that nanostar is mostly a condensed state. The most plasma like atoms are lower energy and mostly on the outside of the cluster. Hence, to get the most transmutation from the cluster, free it from its LENR cage or make them without a using a matrix and accelerate the cluster or the target, so that when they collide, on collision the energetic high density atoms ( those with the lowest barrier to fusion) become exposed to the target and react. Since reaction is a function of kinetic energy (energy needed to overcome the coulomb barrier), the most interesting experimental space becomes experiments that mix a plasma with these non-plasma nanostars.


    What do you think is that a spaceship engine?

  • Physical Review C

    Novel nuclear reactions observed in bremsstrahlung-irradiated deuterated metals

    Bruce M. Steinetz, Theresa L. Benyo, Arnon Chait, Robert C. Hendricks, Lawrence Forsley, Bayarbadrakh Baramsai, Philip B. Ugorowski, Michael D. Becks, Vladimir Pines, Marianna Pines, Richard E. Martin, Nicholas Penney, Gustave C. Fralick, and Carl E. Sandifer II

    Accepted 6 December 2019

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