Rossi's theory

The paper presented by Carl-Oscar Gullstrom has now been published on the Journal of Nuclear Physics here:

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-…0the%20Rossi%20Effect.pdf

The presentation of Carl-Oscar Gullstrom at the November 24 E-Cat QX presentation, which was omitted from the official early videos released on the official Ecat YouTube channel has now been published as a separate video.

The link is here: https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ud6-KRbvKqE

Axil's theory

In a nutshell, I believe that the thrust of Rossi’s theory is going in the right direction, that is, disruption of the quarks in protons and neutrons produce transmutation and energy release. But the details in Rossi's theory are both not correct and not complete. At the bottom of the cause of LENR is a Quark transformation reaction produced by magnetic field lines that increase the energy/mass of the quark causing them to change flavors. Monopole magnetism causes quarks to increase in energy/mass by adding to the spin of the quark. The quarks in the protons and neutrons are transformed into strange and charm quarks that produce mesons (Kaons) that then decay into pions and muons and eventually electrons. The mechanism of monopole magnetic field line production is produced by entangled nanoparticles that condense from metal vapor in a seven second cycle produced by the plasma in Rossi’s QX and metalized hydrogen in Holmlid’s reaction

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Well then, if we go back to mm from cm the output is miniscule.

The majority of the math he used is straight from the Gullstrom-Rossi report, including the conversion of the Stefan-Boltzmann equation to suit cm² instead of m².

And then we have a few orders of magnitude problem with the fluid heating demonstration. Perhaps his reactors simply prefer to heat liquids uber alles.

Would the following scenario be plausible?

The plasma is indeed minuscule but it's much hotter than what Rossi claims in public, consistently with eyewitness reports (e.g. Lewan who saw a naked reactor operating in a private test) that the light is bright white-bluish. Rossi is trying to use the spectrometer like an IR camera by probing a larger area that heats up to incandescence, picking up for the calculation the peak wavelength that he thinks possibly corresponds to the average blackbody temperature of the exterior of the naked reactor.

Lewan still presumably has his vision after looking directly into the reactor...

We can dream up many scenarios, some more plausible than others.

The spectrometer is supposed to be calibrated against a light of similar radiant power (check the manual, available online), etc.

The most plausible scenario is that Rossi makes up the number he wants to use for output, then calculates backward to obtain the parameters that would support this value, then designs the demonstration so that this can be reproduced. And occasionally he screws that up, leaving the audience guessing.

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Would the following scenario be plausible?

The plasma is indeed minuscule but it's much hotter than what Rossi claims in public, consistently with eyewitness reports (e.g. Lewan who saw a naked reactor operating in a private test) that the light is bright white-bluish. Rossi is trying to use the spectrometer like an IR camera by probing a larger area that heats up to incandescence, picking up for the calculation the peak wavelength that he thinks possibly corresponds to the average blackbody temperature of the exterior of the naked reactor.

The light produced by the QX comes from a side emission channel. The light generated by the quark is not blackbody.

New research into polariton condensates has revealed a side emission channel that produces light whose frequency is proportional to the density of the polariton aggregation...the dense polariton condinsate produces a higher frequency light (blue) and a less dense condinsate will produce red light. Rossi must have a way to control the density of the polariton population. The color of the light can be adjusted by the adjusting the pumping level of the polaritons so that any color can be produced. .

The color of the light generated by the condinsate is controled by the level of "pumping" that determings the density of the polariton condinsate.

See

https://phys.org/news/2016-06-…einstein-condensates.html

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They tackled this problem by highly exciting exciton-polaritons, which are particle-like excitations in a semiconductor systems and formed by strong coupling between electron-hole pairs and photons. They observed high-energy side-peak emission that cannot be explained by two mechanisms known to date: Bose-Einstein condensation of exciton-polaritons, nor conventional semiconductor lasing driven by the optical gain from unbound electron hole plasma.

The details on this side channel are here

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep25655

High-energy side-peak emission of exciton-polariton condensates in high density regime

In the demo, the light produced was red because the QX was only operating at at 30% power level. I saw the red light in the video. Matts saw the blue light when the QX was at maximum power. Blue light has a black body temperature at 7000C. Materials cannot stay solid at such a high blackbody temperature. If Rossi know physics better, he would not say such invalid garbage.

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A pity, if the original youtube video of the "conference" with the full audio coverage was lost! This could have been a good source for better understanding what happened in Stockholm, but maybe also another nail to Rossis QX coffin? There is a plan why the first video was removed, edited and re-uploaded, now without audio for most of its parts...

I have a copy of the full version (full audio length, no muted part) here on my hard disk.

Size is about 1.28GB. Length is 2:59:10, 1280x720p@25fps

Admins/Mods: What shall I do with that?

In a nutshell, basically, the only new principle involved is that instead of the power being generated by the relaxive motion of conductors and fluxes, it is produced by the modial interactions of magneto-reluctance and capacitive directance.

The original machine had a base-plate of prefabulated amulite, surrounded by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings were in direct line with the pentametric fan, the latter consisted simply of six hydrocoptic marzelvanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar vaneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented. The main winding was of the normal lotus-o-delta type placed in panendermic semiboloid solts in the stator, every seventh conductor being connected by a non-reversible termic pipe to the differential girdlespring on the 'up' end of the grammeter.

Forty-one manestically placed grouting brushes were arrranged to feed into the rotor slip stream a mixture of high S-value phenyhydrobenzamine and 5 percent reminative tetraiodohexamine. Both these liquids have specific pericosities given by p=2.4 Cn where n is the diathecial evolute of retrograde temperature phase disposition and C is the Chomondeley's annual grillage coefficient. Initially, n was measured with the aid of a metapolar pilfrometer, but up to the present date nothing has been found to equal the transcetental hopper dadoscope.

Electrical engineers will appreciate the difficulty of nubbing together a regurgitative purwell and a superaminative wennel-sprocket. Indeed, this proved to be a stumbling block to further development until, in 1943, it was found that the use of anhydrous nagling pins enabled a kyptonastic boiling shim to be tankered.

The early attempts to construct a sufficiently robust spiral decommutator failed largely because of lack of appreciation of the large quasi-pietic stresses in the gremlin studs; the latter were specially designed to hold the roffit bars to the spamshaft. When, however, it was discovered that wending could be prevented by the simple addition of teeth to socket, almost perfect running was secured.

The operating point is maintained as near as possible to the HF rem peak by constantly fromaging the bituminous spandrels. This is a distinct advance on the standard nivelsheave in that no drammock oil is required after the phase detractors have remissed.

Undoubtedly, the turboencabulator has now reached a very high level of technical development. It has been successfully used for operating nofer trunnions. In addition, whenever a barescent skor motion is required, it may be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocating dingle arm to reduce sinusoidal depleneration.

Quote from Paradigmnoia

Lewan still presumably has his vision after looking directly into the reactor...

We can dream up many scenarios, some more plausible than others.

The spectrometer is supposed to be calibrated against a light of similar radiant power (check the manual, available online), etc.

The most plausible scenario is that Rossi makes up the number he wants to use for output, then calculates backward to obtain the parameters that would support this value, then designs the demonstration so that this can be reproduced. And occasionally he screws that up, leaving the audience guessing.

Yes, good point. When I did the carbon arc experiments I often cited in previous comments, the light was painfully bright even though the plasma region was very small (probably, and quite coincidentally, of similar size to what Rossi claims for his latest demo. But maybe UV are the main culprit for the harsh light in my case). Lewan reported seeing a larger device with a larger electrode gap and a transparent glass enclosure, likely the same described/visible in the Gullström paper, so he would have recalled very well the experience if the light was from a source as hot as I suggested.

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I have a copy of the full version (full audio length, no muted part) here on my hard disk.

Size is about 1.28GB. Length is 2:59:10, 1280x720p@25fps

Admins/Mods: What shall I do with that?

I'm not an admin but I say upload it on mega.nz!

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What shall I do with that?

I'd upload to the Chinese or Russian equivalents of YouTube. (Tudou/Rutube)

I'm not sure Mega does streaming.

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Lewan still presumably has his vision after looking directly into the reactor...

We can dream up many scenarios, some more plausible than others.

The spectrometer is supposed to be calibrated against a light of similar radiant power (check the manual, available online), etc.

The most plausible scenario is that Rossi makes up the number he wants to use for output, then calculates backward to obtain the parameters that would support this value, then designs the demonstration so that this can be reproduced. And occasionally he screws that up, leaving the audience guessing.

Yes, Rossi is backing into numbers that he wants it to be. Blue light cannot have a blackbody temperature of 2300C. In this, Rossi is not honest.

Zeus46  Alan Smith

Mega.nz won't stream it, but will allow users to download it in its original form rather than watching it in some sort of further transcoded format.

1.28 GB is already the degraded quality version. The one with 55 less minutes of audio I have downloaded a few days ago is 3.14 GB (1080p 25 fps).

Downloads are so 2005.

720 should still be ok when transcoded, I think.

Also, if you grabbed it from YouTube, will it need transcoding?

Zeus46

If you're uploading to some unknown Russian or Chinese host, who knows what they might do to save bandwidth.

Also, I planned to enhance the audio, so I would need to download it anyway.

I will do an upload to GoogleDrive and gonna post the URL here, access to everybody until DL limit exceeds.
I will delete the file some days later.

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Alan Fletcher

Let's suppose that the Quark X is a RLC circuit that resonates at about 85 KHz. What would it mean for the measurements?

No idea. I still haven't had time to look at the whole video/transcript, so there may be some details I'm missing.

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For example, Mats :
The high voltage pulse risks destroying normal voltmeters and measuring the voltage with an oscilloscope will be challenging since you first have to capture the high voltage pulse at probably 1 kilovolt and then immediately after you would need to measure a voltage of maybe millivolts.

And then (also from Mats https://animpossibleinvention.…cat-qx-demo-in-stockholm/) William S. Hurley report

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Measurement of the energy consumed ( during the hour for 30′ no energy has been supplied to the E-Cat) :

So we seem to have three phases --

a) High-voltage pulse -- not recorded

b) Maintenance stimulus (AC with DC offset) 30 minutes
ps : Taking a sine wave as a second-order approximation, I calculate the RMS factor as sqrt(3/2) for voltage, 3/2 for power

c) No stimulus (self-sustain)

I don't see these phases clearly identified. Was it 30 minutes on, 30 off .. or 30 seconds or .... ??

I've already said that without knowing the supply voltage nothing (or, perhaps, anything) can be deduced.

But IF it were resistive heating during phase b) then we would see some kind of exponential fall of temperature during self-sustain phase c).

Are the full oscilloscope trace across the 1 ohm resistor, and the temperature of the output available?

Regarding: "the high voltage pulse at probably 1 kilovolt"

The patent states that the high voltage pulse between 50 and 100 kilovolts

The video at 1:18:10 = 4690 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…c&feature=youtu.be&t=4690

shows a duty cycle of about 10 seconds on, 10 off. (I'll download tonight and count the frames).

The curve on the laptop is presumably output temperature ... but the thermocouple is too far from the source to detect any exponential decay. Edit: It's close to the body ... but is it in the water? See new post below.

The 3/7 signal is likely a reaction suppression mechanism to kept the QX from melting down. That signal most likely interferes with the intrinsic magnetic processes that induce the LENR reaction.

So I was having a little trouble with the latter part of IOs message and did some Internet lookups. Thought you all might benefit too. IO's words in double quotes--

“The early attempts to construct a sufficiently robust spiral decommutator”

(commutator (plural commutators)

1. An electrical switch, in a generator or motor, that periodically reverses the direction of an electric current.
2. (group theory) A binary map in a given group G, given by [g, h] = ghg⁻¹h⁻¹, where g and h are elements of G, which yields the group's identity if and only if the group operation commutes for g and h.
3. (ring theory) A binary map in a given ring R, given by [a, b] = ab − ba, where a and b are elements of R, which yields the ring's zero element if and only if the multiplication operation commutes for a and b.

Thus a ‘de’-commutator reverses the action of the commutator.)

“failed largely because of lack of appreciation of the large quasi-pietic

(typo, forgot terminating ‘a’ –

(Italian Noun [– honors Rossi]

pietica f (plural pietiche)

1. A device used to hold tree trunks that are to be sawed )

“stresses in the gremlin studs;”

(gremlin (plural gremlins)

1. A mythical creature reputed to be mischievously inclined to damage or dismantle machinery.
2. (by extension) Any mysterious, unknown source of trouble or mischief.

studs

1. plural of stud
2. (plural only) A pair of shoes or boots which have studs on the bottom to aid grip.

He wore his studs to play soccer.

1. (plural only) Tires/tyres with metal protrusions used for improved traction on snow and ice in winter.

Many US states have outlawed studs due to the damage they cause to paved roads.

In technical context it means devices used to prevent failure…from stresses…)

“the latter were specially designed to hold the roffit bars”

(Another typo probably, should be “roffia”.

(Italian Noun –

roffia f (plural roffie)

1. scraps of tanned leather”)

“to the spamshaft.”

(Obviously supposed to be ‘camshaft' given the obscene meaning of what was written…tsk tsk)

“When, however, it was discovered that wending “

(wending

1. present participle of wend

wend

1. first-person singular present indicative of wenden
2. imperative of wenden

wenden (third-person singular simple present wendeth, present participle wendende, simple past and past participle wended)

1. to travel; to go

“could be prevented by the simple addition of teeth to socket, almost perfect running was secured.”

“The operating point is maintained as near as possible to the HF rem peak by constantly fromaging” (cheeseing)

“the bituminous spandrels.”

(spandrel (architecture) The space (often triangular) between the outer curve of an arch (the extrados) and a straight-sided figure that bounds it; the space between two contiguous arches and a straight feature above them

1. (architecture) The triangular space under a stair; the material that fills the space
2. (architecture) A horizontal member between the windows of each storey of a tall building
3. An oriental rug having a pattern of arches; the design in the corners of such a rug, especially in a prayer rug
4. (evolutionary theory) A phenotypic characteristic that evolved as a side effect of a true adaptation )

“This is a distinct advance on the standard nivelsheave”

( nivel

1. (anatomy) A joint.
2. (robotics) An articulation (a joint).

Sheave

1. A wheel having a groove in the rim for a rope to work in, and set in a block, mast, or similar; the wheel of a pulley.
2. A sliding scutcheon for covering a keyhole.

Implies nivelsheave is a joint wheel )

"in that no drammock" (an uncooked mixture of meal, usually oatmeal, and cold water) "oil is required after the phase detractors have remissed."

(Remissed could possibly be past participle or past indicative of remiss, had remiss been a verb. However, remiss is an adjective, so there is no past tense (eg. remissed or remised). What does remiss mean? The word remiss is applied to a person or people, and means having been careless, negligent or slow in performing a duty, lacking in attention to duty etc.

Implies remissed above means ‘have gotten sloppy’)

“Undoubtedly, the turboencabulator”

(turboencabulator (plural turboencabulators)

1. A fictional machine used to humorously point out the perils of excessive jargon in technical writing. )

"has now reached a very high level of technical development. It has been successfully used for operating nofer trunnions."

(Probably a typo for “noder” -

Latin Verb

nōder

1. first-person singular present passive subjunctive of nōdō

Latin nōdō

From nōdus (“knot”).

Noun

nōdō m

1. dative singular of nōdus
2. ablative singular of nōdus

Verb

nōdō (present infinitive nōdāre, perfect active nōdāvī, supine nōdātum); first conjugation

1. I knot, make knotted, tie in a knot

trunnion (plural trunnions)

1. One of the short stubby bearings on either side of a cannon; a gudgeon.
2. A similar rotational bearing comprising a rotating arc or ring sliding in the groove of a stationary arc, used in machinery to allow a workpiece to be moved relative to a fixed tool.
3. A similar rotational bearing used in automotive suspensions. )

Implies ‘knotted trunnions’)

“In addition, whenever a barescent”

(Vulgarization of “bare escentuals”, relates to “beauty enhancing”

skor

( Swedish (obviously)

Noun[edit]

skor

1. indefinite plural of sko

Verb[edit]

skor

1. present tense of sko.

Noun[edit]

sko c

1. a shoe (on foot or on a horse)
2. a lining (of iron on a wooden tool; similar to a horseshoe)

“motion is required, it may be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocating dingle arm”

(Noun[edit]

dingle (plural dingles)

1. A small, narrow or enclosed, usually wooded valley.

Employed technically in a figurative sense to describe an arm (often wooden) nestled between two very large parts, that is usually very hard to get to, requiring dingle arm tools to repair or replace.)

“to reduce sinusoidal depleneration.”

(See: How to Reduce Sinusoidal Depleneration

http://inthemachine-autodesk.t…soidal-depleneration.html)

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Why would that be if it were a working reactor producing energy via a nuclear reaction of an unknown nature? Not knowing the reactor's properties such as output power vs time vs input power, you would have no way to predict anything about the output, would you?

The usual poor reading comprehension skills demonstrated once again...