Demonstration of the E-Cat QX - 24 November - Summary thread

Quote from maryyugo

0.015V instead of 0.020V across the one ohm resistor would give you your 12V. (12V/801 Ohms=0.01498 Amps or appx 0.015V across the 1 ohm resistor) And 12 V storage batteries are a bit higher than 12 V when fully charged. How accurate was that 0.02V? How do we know?

How do we know? 0.02 ... probably eyeballed. Easily 0.015.

In the intro Mats said the conductor/800 ohm were to see if the supply was constant current. But it's neither.

What!!! Did M.Y. actually write something I agree with. Amazing.

Almost perfect replication of the scope image. Assuming 100uS/Div on the scope, that gives 9.5kHz and 83.03kHz.

Quote from Rends

...so for the control measurement at the end of the demo the controller inside the white box was switch to a different operating mode.

that's just because it was not "detecting" the QX. no switches necessary.

It looks like the QX reactor is simply 2 bolts pushed into the ends of an unsealed glass tube, you can see the thread. What colour arc do you get in plain old air )))

Quote from Malcolm Lear

Almost perfect replication of the scope image. Assuming 100uS/Div on the scope, that gives 9.5kHz and 83.03kHz.

For me it looks like pumping energy from ZPE.

For what it's worth, Rossi *really* wanted to make sure that the power was off (for example at video [2:02:05]) before doing work on the reactor and even he didn't want to touch the cables for some reason (for example at minute [2:05:40]), which seems odd to me if it was just a low voltage resistive heater. At about [1:22:40] in the "lost audio version" (backup here) Levi remarked that there was an arc [discharge] forming at the clamp contacts (bolts) on either side of the reactor due to a high voltage; Rossi was visibly annoyed at him afterwards when he said that.

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For what it's worth, Rossi *really* wanted to make sure that the power was off (for example at video [2:02:05]) before doing work on the reactor and even he didn't want to touch the cables for some reason (for example at minute [2:05:40]), which seems odd to me if it was just a low voltage resistive heater. At about [1:22:40] in the "lost audio version" (backup here) Levi remarked that there was an arc [discharge] forming at the clamp contacts (bolts) on either side of the reactor due to a high voltage; Rossi was visibly annoyed at him afterwards when he said that.

From Tesla time everybody on earth knows that energy is possible to transmit by one wire.

Rossi has a spelling problem with Stockholm. - On JONP he wrote 8 times Stockolm instead. Probably because of the Italian spelling ‘Stoccolma’.

But why the heck 8 sockpuppets other posters (Giorgio, W.Y., Silent Majority Member, Anonymous, Prof, Jenny, Yuri and Enrique) do have the same problem with Stockholm?

Is this the new ‘Stockolm syndrom’?

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Andrea Rossi

November 30, 2017 at 2:05 AM

Frank Acland:

It has been a direct result of the Stockolm event: it has been attended by very high level persons, either from the scientific and the industrial point: the IVA conference room acted just like a reactor containing strongly reactive elements…

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Giorgio

November 29, 2017 at 4:43 PM

Dr Andrea Rossi:

Here is the link to the Italian conference made in Italy just after the Stockolm event at the IVA:

http://www.ecat-ilnuovofuoco.i…la-conference-call-rossi/

W.Y

November 29, 2017 at 12:29 AM

Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:

I viewed all the videos of the event of Stockolm at the IVA. The demo is very convincing for the measurements. The use of the two resistances of 1 Ohm and 800 Ohms as dummies has been genial: did you invent this solution?

W.Y.

Silent Majority Member

November 28, 2017 at 11:16 AM

Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:

I have been moved to watch at you during the fantastic demo of Stockolm.

Now we wait for your product.

God bless you,

SMM

Anonymous

November 28, 2017 at 4:15 AM

Dr Andrea Rossi,

I am the CTO of an important company in the aerospace field. I am following your publications and tests since the Bologna event of January 2011 and I think the test at the IVA of Stockolm has been a masterpiece. The measurements made are all fully satisfactory to us and it is clear to me that you made a technological miracle. I am reading in the blogosphere many comments of amateurs lecturing about this and that without knowledge of the matter, but I can assure you that our experts I am talking with are extremely impressed, even shocked, by what they saw in the video, that we scrutinized second by second.

We can help you to resolve the overheating of the control box easily.

We will contact you next Monday, so you will know me. I cannot expose myself in a blog.

Godspeed, Andrea and see you soon.

Andrea Rossi

November 28, 2017 at 4:34 AM

Dear Readers:

Today has been published on the Journal of Nuclear Physics the complete text of the lecture of Carl-Oscar Gullstroem that has been presented in Stockolm on November 24 in the IVA.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Prof

November 27, 2017 at 6:20 AM

Dr Andrea Rossi:

I watched the two videos of the complete demo of Stockolm and I think you made a very convincing test. It has been very convincing for the water flow, for the measurements of the temperatures and for the measurements of the electric energy consumed.

I think you have made a masterpiece and all the experts I have spoken with agree with me.

Congratulations.

Andrea Rossi

November 27, 2017 at 4:11 AM

Dear Readers:

In our website are now available the 2 links to the integral transmission of the Stockolm event:

https://ecat.com/news/ecat-qx-presentation-in-stockolm

https://ecat.com/news/carl-osc…ry-about-the-rossi-effect

Andrea Rossi

November 26, 2017 at 4:55 PM

Dear Readers:

Please find hereunder the link to the reflections of the scientific journalist Mats Lewan related to the demo of Stockolm:

https://animpossibleinvention.com

Andrea Rossi

November 26, 2017 at 3:04 PM

Dear Readers:

It has been published on youtube the last part of the demo of Stockolm, with the theoretical presentation by Carl-Oscar Gullstrom: please go to

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Andrea Rossi

November 25, 2017 at 2:27 PM

Michel:

1- to do what I have done

2- it has been explained . What you saw is partial report. Please watch a more complete report (you tube ” Ecat Stockolm” or Ecatworld )

3- we had an oscilloscope

4- thank you for your encouragement to our Team!

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Jenny

November 25, 2017 at 10:22 AM

Dr Andrea Rossi:

Thank you for the generous demo you gave us from the predtigious Royal Academy of Engineering Sciences of Stockolm.

I have been moved by your whisper at the end of the event, when all the attendants cheered you heartedly.

You are inspiring.

Now we all wait for your products.

A big hug,

Jenny

Yuri

November 25, 2017 at 11:28 AM

Dear Andrea:

Great! Great! What we saw from Stockolm is a gigaprogress of your science and technology. Fantastic the choice to use only liquid water with 20 Celsius degrees of delta T, with the water falling in a reservoir upon a scale. Now the calorimetry is undisputable.

Bravo!

Yuri

Enrique

November 25, 2017 at 11:50 AM

Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:

Congratulations to you and your team for the immense demo of Stockolm. I appreciated the genial application of a dummy of 1 Ohm and a dummy of 800 Ohms, to proof the obvious fact that the plasma is a conductor, since with the dummies instead of the Ecat we saw that the resistance of the copper was the same of the plasma, since with 1 Ohm the voltage was moreless the same, while with the 800 Ohm dummy we saw that the source was not an I-constant source. This was genial.

Congratulations for the clarity of the measurements.

And now…Godspeed to the industrialization !

Andrea Rossi

November 25, 2017 at 4:02 AM

Gennady and ALL OUR READERS:

The video of the event of yesterday is availabke on You Tube: just go to You Tube and dial

ECAT STOCKOLM

The integral paper of Carl Oscar Gullstrom will be available within days on this Journal of Nuclear Physics.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Andrea Rossi

November 24, 2017 at 6:38 PM

Ecat Fan:

The official streaming of the event of November 24th, made at the Swedish Royal Academy of Engineering Sciences of Stockolm, will be put in the internet witin hours.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

P.S. It has been already put on youtube by other sources, albeit in incomplete versions

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A deja-vu of the ‘pace-maker’ fun.

For the dangerous voltages being present periodically, also see Rossi's reaction to Giuseppe Levi in the video at [1:17:05] and in particular how Rossi behaves. He quickly stops Levi from getting too close, seems very concerned. However I'm not 100% sure if I accurately got what Rossi told him (there's much background noise).

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[1:17:05] [Levi] *gets close to E-Cat*

[1:17:08] [Rossi] Non toccare, perché se ti becca, questa, è pericolosissima.

[Levi] Lo vedo… L'ho visto, qui, c'è una scarica che viene giù…

[Rossi] *nods concerned, glances at Levi and instrumentation around*

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[1:17:08] [Rossi] Don't touch, because if this one here reaches you, it's very dangerous.

[Levi] I see that... I've seen it here, there's such a discharge coming down...

Quote from E_man

From Tesla time everybody on earth knows that energy is possible to transmit by one wire.

Ergo: Qurks can be in white "black box" which needs intensive cooling and generate several watts HV-HF energy for the fake izolep part.

May be Rossi has big sens for humor?!

If yes, Go Rossi Go!!!

I can load and step through the "google drive" version (my video program stuck at 100% cpu for the original) , so I'll find a point where the Qx is in operation, and double check the duty cycle.

I know that for "Fourier" frequencies (f0=DC, f1, 2*f1 ...) the equivalent RMS for voltage (terms Vi) is:

sqrt( Vo^2 + V1^2/2 + V2^2/2 ...)

Does this apply to arbitrary frequencies? (I've forgotten too much math to integrate the formulae).

https://masteringelectronicsde…ne-wave-with-a-dc-offset/

I don't think that I'm going to recalculate the "indistinguishable from a resistor" stuff: since I can get any number I want it doesn't matter if the rms factor is 1, .707, .602 ...

I did notice that there are frequent spikes in the waveform, and the waveform when it turns ON is very complex.

Quote from Malcolm Lear

It looks like the QX reactor is simply 2 bolts pushed into the ends of an unsealed glass tube, you can see the thread. What colour arc do you get in plain old air )))

The bolt threads into the internally threaded rod of the clamp.

It is possible that a threaded rod has been threaded into .. the rod... and the hex is a cinch nut holding the threaded rod tight.

I can take some more photos of the clamp I have if that helps to understand the construction of it.

Quote from Malcolm Lear

It looks like the QX reactor is simply 2 bolts pushed into the ends of an unsealed glass tube, you can see the thread. What colour arc do you get in plain old air )))

The bolt threads into the internally threaded rod of the clamp.

It is possible that a threaded rod has been threaded into .. the rod... and the hex is a cinch nut holding the threaded rod tight.

I can take some more photos of the clamp I have if that helps to understand the construction of it.

Quote from maryyugo

Looking through the holes in the white box, it does seem as if a 12 volt rechargeable battery could be in it-- there is a grey structure in there that is very batteryish. Para and Rends seem to be on the right track.

I'm not convinced there is a battery in there at all. There could be.

I'm not sure what is under there. Seems to be more likely something like the grey utility boxes from the Doral photo. I give a 70 % chance that whatever it is, it comes from Home Depot.

My posts are double-posting strangely.