What does 'O'-day stand for?

Pessimist: 'O'-no, it doesn't work (((

Optimist: 'O'-wow, that's incredible!!

I think that is different from end of the world day which was projected to be last August by those familiar with this case. But then again, I wasn't paying very close attention.

It might rhyme with earthly paydays in the frequency domain.

Having said that - everything just might be connected via the somethingsomething.

Shane - Easter and April Fool's converge this year - do we have a possible back-up date?

I think Mr Greenyer believes that some sort of self-organizing torroidal (O-shaped) concentration of energy emerges from a wormhole under certain circumstances and can be amplified through some sort of self-replication if the conditions are right. This energy field can restructure matter and change its properties including how it interacts with forces like magnetism and gravity. Not sure how excess heat is evolved from all this.

I think that Bob believes these torroidal energy patterns are living entities with some sort of intelligence (although all he will say so far is that they have a "will"). Bob believes himself to have supernatural abilities (he says he is a remote viewer and apparently that he can forsee the future) and I think he believes that he is in communication with either the entities themselves or an intelligence that fashioned them.

Edit: Mr Greenyer has objected to my final sentence. He has a point in that I used the word "communication" in too broad a way. To be more precise, I think that Bob believes that these entities or whatever fashioned them has some sort of mind that he can apprehend. By understanding what their motivation is he thinks we can predict what they want and perhaps can come to some sort of beneficial back-and-forth with them. In psychology this is called "theory of mind". Most people possess a theory of mind about animals, but not about plants or natural phenomena like sunspots or waterfalls

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- just a suspicion, that the 'strange radiation' (Teller's 'meshugganons perhaps?) might contain information in the form of templates for transmutation/transformation of materials distant from the point of origin of the radiation.

Definitely lots of room for interesting pub-based speculation. But do you mean some sort of non-local property that is doesn't obey an inverse square law? I can't think of any LENR result that would require something like this.

After a further exchange, Bob Greenyer directed me to the work of a Dr. Thorsten Ludwig who turns out to be interested in psychokinesis. Dr Ludwig proposes that material systems can be influenced by the intentions and will of humans. In particular he believes he has evidence that the physical properties of a bottle of water sitting in Arizona can somehow be influenced by the will and intention of a group of meditators that has somehow been collected and stored in a machine in Germany. I am dubious! I think that Bob believes that the toroidal entities he thinks are responsible for the LENR phenomena in LION are evoked by the mind through some sot of psychokinesis.

I have occasionally played with the idea that the "Universe" we live in is really a simulation in some enormous computing system. This is not a new hypothesis, but is so far not testable, just a 'mind game'.

Having said that, we can still examine the implications. In this schema sentient "Beings" would be linked pieces of self-modifying object code, with reproduction being equivalent to object spawning. And the overall operating system is what we commonly refer to as "The Laws of Nature".

Thus the job of Science is to reverse-engineer the OS of the Universe. Now suppose that there is a weak memory partition (or backdoor) in the OS, such that the self-modifying nature of the Being objects can, through many iterations, change the embedded constants and subroutines of the OS. Thus, as the consensus beliefs of "Civilization" evolve over time, the nature of the Universe might also evolve. IOW, if enough people believe and act as if something is possible, then it eventually can become possible. LENR? -we're getting closer! FTL travel? Keep thinking about and working on it....

Don't misunderstand me please. This is a passion play script, a parable for progress rather than a statement of faith. But just as it is not provable (yet), it is also not disprovable. So I try to keep an open mind while still paying attention to things that are definable and testable.

AlanG

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So I try to keep an open mind while still paying attention to things that are definable and testable.

That's key for me. I keep an open mind about a lot of things. But when it comes to scientific effort, empiricism rules, and that is driven by what is definable and testable.

Obviously from a public relations perspective focusing on the definable and testable is the appropriate communications strategy as well.

magicsound

Having thought about this somewhat I tend to agree with Jim Holt, author of “Why Does The World Exist?”

You would expect that a manufactured universe would have some special features, perhaps very beautiful, or dramatic, or entertaining, or maybe do some work such as test a model, or produce an end product via an evolutionary process.

Holt has come to the conclusion that, out of the range of possible universes, our universe is not the best (a manufactured heaven) and not the worst (a manufactured hell), in fact it is bland, average and ordinary.

Why make a bland universe?

So that would suggest it is not artificial.

If we find that it is manufactured I would want to put in a formal complaint to those responsible.

Quote from H-G Branzell

Perhaps our universe is not a simulation but instead it is pure mathematics?

What's the difference?

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If we find that it (the Universe) is manufactured I would want to put in a formal complaint to those responsible.

"Who ordered that?"

I.I.Rabi on the discovery of the Muon (1936)

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I have occasionally played with the idea that the "Universe" we live in is really a simulation in some enormous computing system.

This idea is common to people that do not understand the different levels of computabilty. The idea, live is a simulation, can be easily disproved.

But the philosophical question that atoms are quantum computers and good runs the univers and can conduct the game may be one reality...