Greg,
Anything new to the story? I saw your comment last week on ECW, about GEC giving a demo for NASA. Did I miss something?
NASA partners with Global Energy Corporation to develop 10kW Hybrid Reactor Generator
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I would like to think he is just so desperately looking to help that he runs over every lead without through regard to content.
but thats not working~
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Is this really Pyroelectric Crystal Nuclear Fusion?
The auditor of this article first lists all the indicators that are required to prove that the fusion of deuterium is taking place, but he latter admits that only neutrons were detected coming out of this reaction.No it is not. As is illustrated in my earlier post the electric field set up by pyroelectricity is used to ionize and accelerate deuterium atoms. When the ions hit the deuterated target some D-D fusions occur.
https://steemit.com/steemstem/…c-crystal-nuclear-fusion:
It is the second, neutron producing outcome that makes it easy to detect D-D fusion, as neutrons are not produced in many natural processes.
Due to the low reaction rate and the natural He background it would be impossible to discern and detect the few He atoms produced.
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Fusion is not happening in this reaction even if neutrons are detected. Fusion requires the production of specific gamma radiation at 3 and 14 Mev. It also requires the production of tritium and He3.
Welcome in the standard model club of people that only understand kinetic fusion! The key of LENR is the absence of classic gamma radiation, because there is no available momentum. This is basic college Newton physics!
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Reality based pessimism can be a constructive counterweight to unrealistic optimism.
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I think the best case for cold fusion in a short paper is here:
This document was published in 2009:
Cold Fusion (LENR) One Perspective on the State of the Science
Here is an interview with Mike McKubre:
Published on Jan 18, 2018
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In the interview nothing is said about the LENR proofs that Jed consider to be so important. Instead Mike refers to the Israel based company Energetic Technologies that were able to show energy gains of 10 to 25 times. Their process was based on the SuperWave concept developed by Irving Dardik, a former vascular surgeon (!), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Dardik,
This is a SuperWave:lenr-forum.com/attachment/5104/
More super waves: https://www.goodreads.com/book…e-of-nature#other_reviews
The Nature of Nature: The Underlying Reality of Nature and How SuperWaves Will Change Everything
Got 5 stars from Mike (Who?!)
Since this silly thing was a pure fantasy the company ran out of sponsor money and I think the little that was left of the company transferred to the University of Utah.
In the interview Mike said:
"There are four companies sort of perched on the edge of commercialization I am working with,"
He tells us that they were Brillouin, Rossi, Defkalion, Black Light Power.
Excellent choice of collaborators. Whatever edge they were on, it was not one of commercialization, rather public revelation.
But what else can you expect from a man that believes in Joseph Papp's noble gas engine:
http://coldfusionnow.org/tag/papp-engine/
“This is a power source that mankind needs to have. We need to make a push and get this energy out in the hands of people.“—Dr. Michael McKubre TeslaTech 2012
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In the interview nothing is said about the LENR proofs that Jed consider to be so important.
Did anyone say there are proofs in this interview? Who are you disputing here?
There are proofs in the paper I cited, and in my video which is mainly based on that paper:
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Yawwwwn. Call me back when a physical generator exists, has been independently tested and the data can be confirmed by a second trustworthy source. But glad you sent for info, Shane.
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I sent an email to the contact lady for some info.
An essential part of her head seems to be missing:
https://techlinkcenter.org/employees/joan-wu-singel-clp/
Good luck with the email!
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Yawwwwn. Call me back when a physical generator exists, has been independently tested and the data can be confirmed by a second trustworthy source.
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The patent is not mentioning Dott. Rossi, Carl-Oscar Gullström nor Norman Cook, as far as I can see.
So, worth reading
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Bang,
Yes, that is a good point, and funny. But it seems to me that most here are missing the significance of the US Navy offering for license an LENR based technology. This is official, and generally the US government is not in the business to scam people, so that is at least off the table. They also do not generally offer to license, or partner with others to develop something they think is crap.Add to that the former SPAWAR/GEC researchers behind this patent, now working with NASA on a hybrid non-fissile/LENR reactor for space purposes, well...
I could be crazy as a loon for thinking this is important, or possibly prescient. I like to think the latter.
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Bang,
Yes, that is a good point, and funny. But it seems to me that most here are missing the significance of the US Navy offering for license an LENR based technology. This is official, and generally the US government is not in the business to scam people, so that is at least off the table. They also do not generally offer to license, or partner with others to develop something they think is crap.Add to that the former SPAWAR/GEC researchers behind this patent, now working with NASA on a hybrid non-fissile/LENR reactor for space purposes, well...
I could be crazy as a loon for thinking this is important, or possibly prescient. I like to think the latter.
I read this as the guys that support this work in the Navy having results that they remain interested in, and want to pursue, but no way to do this without external interest and money.
Which, BTW, means they have some observations that could indicate LENR, or could indicate some collection of artifacts and misunderstood non-LENR effects. If the results were clear-cut lots of money would be forthcoming in many ways.
That is the story, thus far, of LENR research.
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This is official, and generally the US government is not in the business to scam people, so that is at least off the table. They also do not generally offer to license, or partner with others to develop something they think is crap.
All true but the government has been known to engage in highly speculative (and eventually fruitless) research. For example, Uri Geller and psychic phenomena were studied under government grants by Targ and Puthoff and how can we forget the substantially funded project to study "remote viewing" -- a stupid idea you can disprove in one afternoon in a freshman college psych lab?
https://www.cia.gov/library/re…-00791R000100440001-9.pdf
https://www.cia.gov/library/re…dp79-00999a000300030027-0
Uri Geller's rather ordinary magic tricks and the vague illusion of remote viewing fooled government scientists for many years each. They are classics but there are dozens of projects tried by various US government agencies which were fanciful and got nowhere. Some in fact were scams, not by the government, but by the experimenters. Government support is no guarantee of legitimacy.
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It may be more school then powering up homes. from the parts that are mssing..
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All true but the government has been known to engage in highly speculative (and eventually fruitless) research.
Typical straw man arguments: None of the above ended up in a patent and in offered licencing!
If you can't accept that LENR is real, you should think about quitting the forum...
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Which, BTW, means they have some observations that could indicate LENR, or could indicate some collection of artifacts and misunderstood non-LENR effects. If the results were clear-cut lots of money would be forthcoming in many ways.
That is the story, thus far, of LENR research.That is your version of the story. It is incorrect. Many results have been clear-cut and compelling, but you invent reasons to doubt them, such as your statements about entrainment in the Fleischsmann-Pons boil off experiments. Or your assertion that a 1 L cell will displace ~20 L of water.
Clear-cut results do not attract money in controversial fields. They attract attacks. They attract academic politics and irrational opposition. This can be seen in the history of many scientific and technological breakthroughs such as the laser and the MRI. The better the results, the stronger the opposition was. In cold fusion, for example:
The National Cold Fusion Institute published definitive proof in peer-reviewed journals that cold fusion produces tritium, so it is a nuclear effect. The Institute was quickly attacked and closed down. People such as you, who are determined not to believe any claim about cold fusion, never comment on these results. Or SRI, or Miles, or any other. (For some reason you feel free to invent nonsense about Fleischmann and Pons, but not these others.)
Most research at SRI was closed down as soon as they published positive results. The ANS paid Hoffman to write an absurd little book justifying this. The leader of the anti-cold fusion faction at EPRI wrote the introduction to it. They paid Hoffman hundreds of thousands, which is more than many cold fusion studies. The book was so full of lies it nearly triggered a lawsuit, so the publisher added a slip of paper with an addendum. It is one of the few true statements in the book.
When Miles published his results (http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MilesManomalousea.pdf), the managers at China Lake were furious with him. They cited his report as the reason to reassign him to a menial job as a stock room clerk, despite the fact that he was a Fellow of the Institute. See pp. 152 - 161:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Fleischmanlettersfroa.pdf
While good studies were attacked and closed down, Kamiokande and other inept studies conducted by people opposed to cold fusion fusion were lavishly funded. See:
