Measurement of the enthalpy of formation of an iron pico-hydride and of its main properties (2017)

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That is their name. Been around a couple years, and they have been talked about here many times. At first they acted legit, but within a short time that changed. That is why we discuss them here Caveat Emptor (LENR investors beware)

That way, any potential investors venturing onto the forum for their due diligence, will see that we do not endorse them, and in fact are highly suspicious.

Ok, that is important, because I thought that vitamin claim was scetchy! The other stuff I was saying still makes sense in the larger picture.

https://arxiv.org/abs/0810.0955

Dr Dufours paper, this time with deuterium mentioned. Highlighting in the screenshot what i have alluded to in previous comments, the appearance of transmutation with pico-chemical reactions.

https://www.semanticscholar.or…80223f9a72137e8d0f4185e1a

A copper like compound could be formed from nickel and hydrogen gas while unleashing energy. Download link is here

->52940c6fc6280223f9a72137e8d0f4185e1a.pdf

Nuclear energy?

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Nuclear energy?

No. According to the paper an interesting purely electromagnetic compound like it but not the genuine elements nuclear state. Atomic nuclei mass/charge properties would affect the pico-scale phenomina stronger than an outer orbit lower strenth chemical bond. In fact these effects probably are key to the closer orbit. Releasing interesting amounts of energy, ~0.5keV to ~100keV per reaction. This depending on if the elements involved are catalytically condensing hydrogen with hydrogen H2* or if it is catalytically Pico-Hydrogenating particular types of metals with H isotopes.

A binuclear atom configuration same concept as pico-hydrides but probably easier to understand for those befuddled by the word chemistry describing LENR results.

https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0606082

I found it refreshing to see the same concept in different words like hydrinos and other names for the same hydrogen phenomina. Can't let this thread sleep to long!

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Binuclear atoms—I recall this definition from a different researcher: http://binuclearatoms.eu/

With binuclear atoms, picochemistry, and shrunken hydrogen it's a single category. If you combine all the papers, theory and math associated with these phenomena while staying within the laws of physics you would probably get a sizable quantity.

Thank for the link. I had the honour to visit the lab of Jacques Dufour at Paris. It is located in an old house of the 17th century in the alchemist’ street of Paris, not far from the famous Nicholas Flamel house. Great work.

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Thank for the link. I had the honour to visit the lab of Jacques Dufour at Paris. It is located in an old house of the 17th century in the alchemist’ street of Paris, not far from the famous Nicholas Flamel house. Great work.

Alchemy technically didn't die in France! It just casted of limitations and moved up with modern tools/approaches. Picochemistry and binuclear atoms are chemistry products that are on the edge! This fact you shared intreges me. Your welcome

The members of this forum will appreciate to know that the real name of the famous alchemist Fulcanelli was (probably) Eugene Canseliet, who was the best specialist of Palladium during the time which he was professor at Conservatoire National des Arts & Métiers University at Paris. His lab was not far of the modern athanor of Jacques Dufour.

Dear adepts ot the Great Work,

I remember my first meeting with Jacques Dufour, in front of the Beaubourg Center, near his lab at CNAM university.

He is a specialist in nickel-based catalysts, which he studied during his long career at ROYAL DUTCH SHELL. If I had obtained his results, I would have thought that the product obtained was a nickel oxide and that its color was due to light interference in the thin layers, but he knows his job perfectly and can be trusted.

Rereading the great Fulcanelli, it occurs to me that if the pseudo-silver possesses the chemical qualities of silver at a sufficiently important point, it seems to me possible to use the cupellation to separate it from the nickel powder mixture.

Here's how I suggest doing it: mixing the nickel powder with molten lead after reaction with deuterium. The pseudo-silver will dissolve, and of course a bit of nickel will dissolve too.

The undissolved nickel will float at the top of the lead.

Then, I suggest to put some grams of lead into cupellas made of calcium phosphate (available in lab suppliers) and heat the cupellas over 1100°c in air (or oxygen) during hours.

The powder of bone of the cupellas has the strange power to absorb the metallic oxydes like a sponge. This physical phenomenon is not totally understood now. (Lead oxide is liquid, and its superficial tension allow it to be absorbed by the ashbone cupella, but the other oxydes are refractory, and they are absorbed too.)

At the end, a little sphere of pseudo silver will remain in the cupella, because lead oxide, nickel oxide, and other metal oxide will be absorbed by the cupella (this technique is know since the bronze age)

If the amount of pseudo-silver is too small to obtain the "lightning" (appearance of a shiny silver ball), I suggest using the "in-quartation" alchemical method. It's about adding a small amount of silver as "entraîneur." (i don't know the name in English) (As Marie Curie did by adding barium to entrain radium)

Next, I suggest dissolving the silver and pseudo-silver mixture in a bismuth, and using a "Von Ardenne style" liquid metal anode to introduce the silver and pseudo-silver ions into a mass spectrometer. We should see the two peaks corresponding to silver and pseudo-silver.

Would be satisfying to have signatures for these compounds. Am guessing the psuedo-silver is coming from Palladium or another of the platinum group metals close to silver. Probably these special hydrides work best with those metals? Are these precoius metals cost effective when power potential from a picochemical keV scale reactions is expected and how long will they last when compared to fossil and fissioning fuels? Deuterium or protium, still could form dual nuclei atomic compounds with plentiful iron and nickel. I wonder which combo is best from an efficiency, cost and enthalpy energetics standpoint.

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Dear adepts ot the Great Work,

I remember my first meeting with Jacques Dufour, in front of the Beaubourg Center, near his lab at CNAM university.

He is a specialist in nickel-based catalysts, which he studied during his long career at ROYAL DUTCH SHELL. If I had obtained his results, I would have thought that the product obtained was a nickel oxide and that its color was due to light interference in the thin layers, but he knows his job perfectly and can be trusted.

Rereading the great Fulcanelli, it occurs to me that if the pseudo-silver possesses the chemical qualities of silver at a sufficiently important point, it seems to me possible to use the cupellation to separate it from the nickel powder mixture.

Here's how I suggest doing it: mixing the nickel powder with molten lead after reaction with deuterium. The pseudo-silver will dissolve, and of course a bit of nickel will dissolve too.

The undissolved nickel will float at the top of the lead.

Then, I suggest to put some grams of lead into cupellas made of calcium phosphate (available in lab suppliers) and heat the cupellas over 1100°c in air (or oxygen) during hours.

The powder of bone of the cupellas has the strange power to absorb the metallic oxydes like a sponge. This physical phenomenon is not totally understood now. (Lead oxide is liquid, and its superficial tension allow it to be absorbed by the ashbone cupella, but the other oxydes are refractory, and they are absorbed too.)

At the end, a little sphere of pseudo silver will remain in the cupella, because lead oxide, nickel oxide, and other metal oxide will be absorbed by the cupella (this technique is know since the bronze age)

If the amount of pseudo-silver is too small to obtain the "lightning" (appearance of a shiny silver ball), I suggest using the "in-quartation" alchemical method. It's about adding a small amount of silver as "entraîneur." (i don't know the name in English) (As Marie Curie did by adding barium to entrain radium)

Next, I suggest dissolving the silver and pseudo-silver mixture in a bismuth, and using a "Von Ardenne style" liquid metal anode to introduce the silver and pseudo-silver ions into a mass spectrometer. We should see the two peaks corresponding to silver and pseudo-silver.

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color changes are expected in these reactions? The trends and variances in color across differing metal hydride forms should amaze.

Alan said "I would try ball-milling the nickel/pseudo-silver powder to reduce the particle size and then add water to the mix and pass it through a magnetic filter. The nickel being ferromagnetic will stick in the funnel and the silver will pass through. I suspect that the cupella method would oxidise the silver so that it was lost. But I'm only guessing."

The magnetic filter in a good idea (except if the pseudo silver is inside the nickel) Silver don't oxydise itself in ait (or gazeous oxygen) For some quantic reasons gold oxyde and silver oxyde self-decompose when heated. Palladium follow the same behaviour.

When I read this through I was pleasantly surprised that they took the dual-nuclei hydride approach, quite logical I might add, seriously! https://www.researchgate.net/p…_heat_energy_and_hydrogen

The highest soft x-ray peak energy is about in line with what we should expect released from Ni + Atomic H in a picoscale merger. The hydrated silver from the other Suncell and the trace metals in the Sun's corona might undergo similar processes. The use of water vapor is smart to me, and the intentional splintering of the metal for efficient interactions too! They mention in other papers and posts made on this sight that they would use this for hydrogen production... If there is a way to recycle the gasses produced (in stead of producing hydrogen as an end product) you get a vortex "water suncell" with a metal powder power boost. He or Ar should get recycled, unsplit or recombined water vapor could get recycled too, let that free oxygen flow like a plant! Enough hydrogen would stick around to get catalytically reacted to *H2(1/4), a psuedo-He4 dimer AND react with Ni to form psuedo-Copper (depending on how many protons can stably swim in the core electrons embrace).

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LeBob

Perhaps this could be helpful: https://xdb.lbl.gov/Section1/Table_1-2.pdf

If the principle is the same, the formation of a Nickel pico-hydride would release slightly more energy than what is proposed for iron although I haven't read the theory in enough detail to confidently state this. (EDIT: this would be considering the excerpt below)

Potassium would evaporate at lower temperatures and take less energy to ionize, which should be an advantage compared to sodium. I think a major factor is that hydrogen will readily take the molecular form under pressures close to atmospheric, which would hamper the proposed reaction that needs protons. So possibly lower pressures, higher temperatures, high-surface area catalytic surfaces (where hydrogen would be adsorbed as separate atoms) or a combination of these might help as well.

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As Can said here. In a similar order of magnitude to Fe. Output from the max soft x-ray spike from paper is a tad lower. Probably the spectral lines were broadened and diffused to lower frequencies due to multi-particle absorbtion and re-emissions giving slightly lower max. Amazing.

I took some moments to draw up some rough illustrating diagrams showing how dense hydrogen formation and pico-chemistry can work symbiotically to give the affects we see in LENR.

Correction: should be 7keV.