Where is the LENR goal line, and how best do we get there?

  • https://www.academia.edu/37773…ad&campaign=weekly_digest


    New paper published In the World Scientific News, Over my head, but positive about LENR.


    "The "renaissance" in Nuclear Physics, Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions and Transmutations"


    CONCLUSIONS

    Funding of LENR research should focus on the basic experimental science of isotopic

    transmutation effects, regardless of their possible technological utility. Once the empirical data

    are unambiguous, ab initio computational simulations should become possible.

    We have developed the fcc lattice of nucleons as a model of nuclear structure, showing

    that its numerical results concerning nuclear size, shape, density, etc. compare well with the

    30+ other models of nuclear structure developed throughout the 20th century. To date, “nuclear

    modeling” contributes little or nothing to the fundamental unresolved issue of the nature of the

    nuclear force holding nuclei together. In the present work, we addressed the question of the

    nuclear force acting between nucleons in a close-packed nuclear lattice. The validity of results

    depends crucially on the three variables R, x, y. A center-to-center internucleon distance of

    approximately 2.0 fm gives a core nuclear density of 0.17 nucleons/fm3, nuclear core density

    normally cited in the textbooks since the electron-scattering experiments of Hofstadter in the

    1950s (somewhat larger values (0.13 ~ 0.16) for the “mean” density (core plus skin region) are

    also cited in the literature).

    Similarly, the nucleon RMS radius for both protons and neutrons is known experimentally

    to be ~ 0.88 fm. Nevertheless, the nuclear dipole that results in the magnetic moments of +2.79

    and -1.91 μ, respectively, might have dimensions somewhat different from the matter

    distribution within the nucleon, so that calculations of magnetic force effects over a broad range

    of dipole sizes are relevant.

    The followed way, with the novelty of the “particular use” of the Biot-Savart law, is

    therefore a possible solution to the 80 years old problem of the nuclear force [11].


    Acknowledgement
    The author wishes to thank very much Prof. Norman D. Cook of the Kansai University Osaka (Japan) for the
    interesting discussions and suggestions, as well as for the exchange of material.

    Biography
    Paolo Di Sia is currently adjunct professor by the University of Padova (Italy). He obtained a bachelor in
    metaphysics, a master in theoretical physics and a PhD in theoretical physics applied to nanobiotechnology. He
    interested in classical-quantum-relativistic nanophysics, theoretical physics, Planck scale physics, metaphysics,
    mind-brain science, history and philosophy of science, science education. He is author of 260 works to date (papers
    on national and international journals, international book chapters, books, internal academic notes, works on
    scientific web-pages, popular works, in press), is reviewer of two mathematics academic books, reviewer of 12
    international journals. He obtained 13 international awards, has been included in Who’s Who in the World every
    year since 2015, selected for 2017 and 2018 “Albert Nelson Marquis Lifetime Achievement Award”, is member
    of 10 scientific societies and of 32 International Advisory/Editorial Boards.

    https://www.paolodisia.com

  • Discussion of Celani wire process replication showing excess heat


    Good video. LENR needs a lab rat to get across the goal line, and this slight modification of the Celani wires may make that possible. They are getting 9% (21.8 Ws output, from 20Ws input). That is in line with Celani, and MFMP, but they only use 20CM long constantan compared to Celani's 1 meter, with 20-60 micron thickness, as compared to 200 microns. Will be open source so available to all. Here is the caption:


    "Mathieu gives an overview of the wire processing he has done based on Celanis patent descriptions and public documents. Whilst what has been done is only part of process described by Celani's, when Jean-Paul Biberian tested the result, encouraging results were obtained. This opens the possibility for wide scale replication"


  • You may have missed Gio's post as he had it in the library. I just copied it here, as it is some promising news. Celani has been around for a long time, and is still active. I believe his latest results were at the COP2 level? MFMP has replicated him before. Such a simple, cheap, easy to replicate set-up. Everything you could ask for in a lab kit to get to the universities.


    Will 9-13% convince though?

  • For an LENR experiment to convince the masses:


    1) It must be easily repeatable.

    2) The output levels must be significant - hundreds of watts to kilowatts.

    3) The COP must be so high that measurement error is a impossibility.


    Any experiment with a low COP and a few tens of watts won't do much to make the mainstream believe in LENR.


    What I'm hoping will convince the masses are multiple replications of the QX showing at least let's say a hundred watts of heat at a COP of 10.


    I actually think even higher levels of output can be produced. The Chernetsky and Correa devices were extremely unoptimized. One utilized almost all hydrogen except for perhaps small amounts of water vapor and the other utilized almost all argon. I think the combination of hydrogen, argon, lithium, and perhaps other gases will increase the output dramatically!

  • Director,


    It must also produce Energy, not just power.

    Enough energy to say, (running for days), to boil an Olympic sized swimming pool.

    This eliminates any unknown or hidden chemical source.


    “Welcome, and please inspect the experiment. The equipment is running on a standard 120 volt, 20 amp circuit breaker,

    Input power is ~ 2kw and is being measured.

    Average water temp is 68°F and we are boiling 10 gallons/minute”.

  • Enough energy to say, (running for days), to boil an Olympic sized swimming pool.


    That is a tall order any time soon. You never know though, maybe the Celani wires can scale up. That was a question BG asked in the video. We shall see soon, with Biberian, and Mathieu on it. Right now, they get 1.8 Ws excess from a 20cm by 20 micron constantan wire. That is not bad.

  • Produce a plasmoid in a DC plasma tube filled with the optimum gas combination.

    Once the plasmoid begins to produce self sustaining oscillations, support them via applying an appropriate lower powered signal.

    Utilize either a higher frequency signal and/or a magnetic mirror effect with permanent magnets to keep the plasmoid OFF THE ELECTRODES.

    Use flow calorimetry to measure the temperature of a flow coming in vs. going out. (Use many different types of measurement equipment).

    Compare the output to the input power (if possible use a source of a known quantity of energy such as a bank of batteries or super capacitors).

    Run the device for several days to show both high COP and a thousand times more energy produced than what would be generated by the combustion of hydrogen.

    Build the device again to repeat the process and confirm the results.

    Provide all the instructions to the world.


    The above would prove the reality of LENR.

  • It all seems to be about the electrons.


    Just use your wall plug! There are plenty coming out there.


    In fact, the nonsense level is growing up to fan level again, with Bob telling that neutrinos are potential catalyzers... If you know how hard it is to get one neutrino to react with matter ..


    If counting electrons would explain something (nuclear..) then we would know it since centuries...

  • More than hard to imagine, that Neutrinos at speed of light, whatever kind or energy can play a role or can even be manipulated to steer reactions in a very small volume of a few cm³, if around the globe are huge detectors with up to hundreds of m³ are running for years to detect a few events where neutrinos are interacting with other matter..... this would require a rethinking of almost everything science knows about current physics....

  • with Bob telling that neutrinos are potential catalyzers... If you know how hard it is to get one neutrino to react with matter ..


    Bob Greenyer was reading, and interpreting what Parkhomov wrote about. It is not his theory. Have to go back and listen, but there were the cosmic origin neutrino's you talk about, and I thought another type doing the interactions.

  • Curious, if the goal line is reached would you set up a test city ..or replace a power plant and keep support- that infrastructure or build small sub systems,

    Or go with low output- boats Ships as a test bed If the output can be regulated from the lower state reaction single phase if the output can be controlled that way.

    or just go all in and cross your fingers? A free for all to everything at the same time.

  • Curious, if the goal line is reached would you set up a test city ..or replace a power plant and keep support- that infrastructure or build small sub systems,

    Or go with low output- boats Ships as a test bed If the output can be regulated from the lower state reaction single phase if the output can be controlled that way.

    or just go all in and cross your fingers? A free for all to everything at the same time.


    Good questions DnG. Probably the market will sort all that out when/if it happens. The private sector (market) though, does not like "test cities", as there is little, if any, quick ROI on such things. The government may possibly try something like that, although I doubt it. My guess is that they will depend on the private sector to develop it.


    Always fun to try and predict beforehand how it will all happen, but Jed most likely has the best take on this.

  • That's what I'm thinking, private will likely look for what type of reaction to sustain to fit the job. if its not an all of nothing reaction.

    I;m speculating if a lower tier can regulate an upper tier output it would be built as a fixed value and stay away from max outputs,

    but what is a sensible output if its an option..