QX Concepts - A less critical Rossi thread.

This is another comment from Bob Greenyer.

Thanks sam.

The evidence presented on this page makes abundantly clear that Rossi does not know HOW his reactor works, but that he MAY KNOW WHAT works.

1. During the 1 year test, he was looking in the reactor and that, he reports, gave him insight on directions for future development.

2. He started collaborating with Gullstrom

3. He is now planning or is currently in interaction with Prof. Vassallo

I really like this about Rossi, regardless of ones opinion on if you think he can deliver or not, he is not stuck in his view about how it works like many researchers in order to defend their IP - his claimed IP however is not in theory but is in devices that are supposed to be functional, though not independently verified in any public way in the current iteration. Having said that, the QX/SK at least on the 1000 mile overview both look like an interpretation of Chernetsky's 1970s device (which was stable and produced more than enough electricity to self-sustain and provide heat with a 20% discount with a heafty profit margin) mixed in with a bit of shoulders plasma-focus - which is encouraging. When you understand the process, it is better to keep things in a plasma, since you can re-use more of the things that produce SR tracks (which one could therefore call SR).

I also like that he has decided to take on board the work of Prof. Vassallo, who I have had interactions with since early in the MFMPs history, I respect him and his latest papers are his most interesting to date from my point of view. Moreover, he is Italian, so they will be able to communicate natively and he is a regular author/collaborator on Francesco Celani's work, cited in his latest work in Colorado and Grecco.

To remind people of Vassallo's recent work.

http://www.ecat-thenewfire..

Quote from Director

Secondly, I'm curious if anyone has any suggestions about where to get components, how to coat the nickel electrodes with platinum,

Vacuum deposition, if that was not obvious already.

Not saying electroplating is impossible.... chloroplatinic acid.... See "platinic chloride" in Merck Index for

a couple of references.

This could be a starting point.

Source: Demonstration of the E-Cat QX - 24 November - Summary thread

It would also totally help to not take for granted that people know where is the Rossi-Gullstroem paper or want to go searching it:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.05249.pdf

EDIT: or better yet (download the attached file).

Somewhere along the way, the link to the hi-res version of the photo used in the Gullstrom report was posted here.

Is that the hi-res one above?

Paradigmnoia

That is probably the most high-res version available, as the iPhone it was taken with cannot shoot even higher resolution photos.

This plasma ball contains a oscillator circuit that produces an RF signal very close to what the QX uses. Could the QX be based in a plasma ball?

Quote from axil

This plasma ball contains a oscillator circuit that produces an RF signal very close to what the QX uses. Could the QX be based in a plasma ball?

yep,and add some dissimilar metal dusts

Confused..

The paper says the electrodes are Nickel but doesn't mention plating them with platinum. Has Rossi said they were plated elsewhere?

It also say the current was "direct current" and doesn't mention RF.

Edit: My point being what are you trying to reproduce? What his published works say? What he appears to show at demos? All of that plus your own thoughts about what's needed for lenr?

Why believe whats actual provided?

Quote from Alan Smith

I don't know about RF as such, but I am pretty sure that 100kHz AC is involved. As for the platinum coating, the only evidence is a converation with an eye-witness so anecdotal.

I am not a HAM expert as you are, but if a high voltage 100kHz AC current is applied to a set of electrodes, isn't a RF signal created in and around the plasma that lies between and even outside of those electrodes?

It is a similar situation to the plasma glow ball where a high frequency voltage is applied to the center post and a EMF field that is produced by that voltage can energize a florescent light placed on the surface of the plasma ball.

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Confused..

The paper says the electrodes are Nickel but doesn't mention plating them with platinum. Has Rossi said they were plated elsewhere?

It also say the current was "direct current" and doesn't mention RF.

Edit: My point being what are you trying to reproduce? What his published works say? What he appears to show at demos? All of that plus your own thoughts about what's needed for lenr?

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We have seen the 4 second long "RF" broadcast signal immediately after the arc discharge on the oscilloscope from the demo.

The paper mentions a gap of 1.5cm. Apart from that I think the shape of the end of the electrode (rounded? pointed?) might be more important than other dimensions.

Ok so we can work out the frequency which seems resonably low. How about the voltage....

Google found...

https://www.researchgate.net/p…_60_Hz_hydrogen_discharge

Which has data on the breakdown voltage Vs pressure of hydrogen (I assume Rossi puts hydrogen in it but at what pressure?).

The figures suggest a voltage of 200-250v for a 5cm gap at pressures of 400-1000 mTorr. If the voltage scales with gap length that translates to about 60-75V at 1.5cm. I don't know what effect the LiAlH4 has.

I can't find a better picture of the reactor without a water jacket. If I had to guess I'd say around 1/4" or 6mm diameter but could be miles out.