Rossi E-Cat SK Demo Discussion

  • Operating a nuclear reactor without inspection


    Oh, so in this case it is a nuclear reactor. Is that because "Rossi says"? I somehow got the idea you believed him not to be trustworthy?



    But professors should be prevented


    Exactly how? It actually sounds, even though you dont want to comment, that you are advocating some kind of informant system to ensure only the teachings of your liking are spread?

  • jtomas - a brand-new name for undoubtedly a long-time Rossi apologist. Good luck with doing that wait-and-see thing. You clearly have the waiting down pat but obviously are real bad at the seeing. I do recommend perhaps a glass of wine or something. Your last several posts suggest that you are frothing at the mouth. You should be cool and calm since your hero is about to save the world any time now. Just wait and see.


  • Rossi's cavalier attitude towards spectra has been well explored here. It is a feature of his engineering method that he applies simplistic equations way outside their normal range of applicability without testing or even admitting the existence of assumptions behind them.


    • average rms measurement (assumes sinusoidal waveforms)
    • phase change calorimetry (assumes dry steam)
    • IR calorimetry. Assumes band emissivity = total emissivity (which Levi seems still totally convinced of)
    • plasma heat output: assumes monospectral light is in fact black body.


    What is notable is how lucky he is: all these errors produce false positive output power readings: the last one potentially by a very large factor. And in the curated over many years to be a perfect echo chamber ECW he finds quite a few who believe his statements.


    Not sure if the ECW turnover has now got higher? It would not surprise me.

  • What someone else is in fact doing. He's reporting Rossi's claimed activities to the Florida regulatory authorities because those activities, if remotely like what is claimed, are wildly illegal and unsafe. In addition, this person is taking to task with university authorities, one or more professors who apparently "teach" undergraduates what Rossi claims as fact.

    Maybe action like this will motivate the users of the SK reactor to remain dark.

  • Who ever said that? But professors should be prevented from "teaching" complete fraudulent bullshit to students. No problem if they want to discuss Rossi. But the individual in question listed Rossi's claims as definitive and real in a course syllabus. That's not OK because he's promoting a fraud and a con to vulnerable students who respect him.


    This has been brought up twice before. Each time I read the relevant course power point, and he does not claim anything "definitive, and real" about "Rossi claims". Just the opposite...he understated, and dismissed the Ecat as most likely a fuel cell. The profs name will remain unspoken, as the matter was dropped and of no consequence.

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    Meanwhile, Tom Whipple continues to promote Rossifiction and I suppose, censoring responses as usual.

    https://fcnp.com/2019/02/04/th…cold-fusion-strikes-back/


    It seems the article has been deleted. My source did not know why. It was nothing I did. I have no problem with Tom Whipple writing crap and drivel for a newspaper. But I do object if he has an online comments section which makes it appear that he wants comments yet he censors remarks he doesn't like without telling people he does this. That, IMO, is very objectionable.

  • I think that the technology is likely relatively simple.


    I doubt that VERY much. If it were simple, then the 1989 replication attempts would all have been straightforward. Instead, it was only accomplished electrochemists and experts in calorimetry who managed to replicate Pons & Fleishmann. Ordinary physicists got frustrated by the whole process. Heck, at MIT they even faked their positive replication results to show a null replication. Nothing simple about the whole process.

  • http://www.sifferkoll.se/siffe…pqmaFDSGzb4IZGO3_DQjCH_os


    Our old friend Nyberg back in action, with a brief communication with Rossi. Mentions us (LF) at the end! <X Still has that mean edge to him, which lead to his perma-ban. As you read, pay attention to the wording, as it is obvious he is taking great liberties to add substance that may not be there.


    Nyberg supposedly is connected to Hydrofusion...Rossi's most loyal licensee and the host of "Ecat.com" (official website of Leonardo Corp).

  • The SK is getting its excess energy from aliens on planet Tralfalmador. Prove ME wrong.

    I like io,

    He always gets right to the heart of the matter.


    Axil, can anyone, anywhere, in the history of ever, prove Rossi right? Nope.


    But I have absolutely no doubt that you will now start coming up with myriad theories that almost kinda sorta have a little to do with Rossi’s steaming raft of turd.

  • Well, "wait and see" could be the answer of course.

    A word to “Wait and See(rs)”:

    In case that you still don’t see what farce is going on, you have to wait longer again, because “for obvious reasons” all customers requests NDAs:


    In the meantime you may take your time to read what was 8 years ago the expectation in regards to e-cat commercialization:

    https://e-catworld.com/2011/10…n-plans-becoming-clearer/

    or even better (anyway you will have long time to wait), read all what was promised regarding the e-cat (e.g “robotized factories”, “e-cats for home use within 1 year”...) over the last years:

    https://e-catworld.com/display-posts/

    (Best, start reading from the bottom of the list)

  • Shane D. wrote:

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    This has been brought up twice before. Each time I read the relevant course power point, and he does not claim anything "definitive, and real" about "Rossi claims". Just the opposite...he understated, and dismissed the Ecat as most likely a fuel cell. The profs name will remain unspoken, as the matter was dropped and of no consequence.


    The relevant objectionable material was:

    Andrea A. Rossi's "E-cat" LENR technology is apparently available on the market. The currently hand-crafted units come in the 1 MWth size, and are solely for industry and agency use. The current status of the domestic line of Ecats is closely guarded while Underwriters Laboratory [sic] (UL) works through their certification process. [Emphasis added.]


    I do not know if it has been removed or corrected. Not one thing in it is true. As it is (or was), it's as if an astronomy professor was teaching astrology or a professor of internal medicine was basing his course on homeopathy. I'm not mentioning the professor's name since Shane D. seems t object to it but it's from an unrestricted page on a major university's web site.

  • I do not know if it has been removed or corrected




    "the matter was dropped and of no consequence."


    The relevant material is not relevant in 2019 and cannot be found today


    However it is written by MY ,the mother of SOT (MOSOT) that several Torrs is a dangerous high pressure.


    The relevant material is relevant in 2019 and cannot be found today

  • Argon, is the 'ballerina' video you posted in a loop? Seems to be to me. It definitely looks to be taken with a hand held camera and would be very difficult to hold in frame for a sustained period of time.


    For what it's worth, in the full video the shown plasma changes slightly in shape and color over time. There also are other slow changes in other views: for example the bubble detectors appear to be sinking and other cameras moving perhaps due to the heat softening the black tape holding them up.




    It would have been interesting if the analog scales showed dramatic changes up and down, which is what I expected it would do (leaving viewers dumbfounded) given its range and precision, when the first short test video got "leaked", but the needle didn't move at all.

  • I just wonder whether a plasma core of approx 1.1 cm (long) x 0.3 cm (diameter) with a heat capacity of 22 KW can be easily converted into a steam / hot water stream.
    E.g. my home central natural gas heater also has a heat capacity of around 22 KW, but the combustion chamber has a much larger volume.

  • I prepared a alternative video of Ecat plasma taken from the ECat demo video. I don't know does this prove anything to direction or another, but for me it looks like videocamera is shaking in sync with cameraman breathing. Also 'plasma' seems to be pretty constant whole time not changing its shape at all.


    Hi Argon


    Interesting! Please expand on the technical details of how you prepared this alternative video.

  • I just wonder whether a plasma core of approx 1.1 cm (long) x 0.3 cm (diameter) with a heat capacity of 22 KW can be easily converted into a steam / hot water stream.
    E.g. my home central natural gas heater also has a heat capacity of around 22 KW, but the combustion chamber has a much larger volume.

    Easy! You just install a massive, but invisible, heat exchanger.

    Rossi knows how!

  • Speaking of announcements, whatever happened to all the optimistic claims in this? http://www.padrak.com/ine/ROTHWELLCF.html High power? High "COP?" in 1995? Credibility now?

    That was the Patterson test next door to Disneyland. It was a mess, as you see. Why was there no proper flow meter? Why were the power supplies from Radio Shack? Manual data collection, no computer. That is why, when it went haywire midway through the test, we couldn't tell.


    It was a mess, but much better than Rossi's demos.


    Read about Patterson and you will see what happened to it.


    Incidentally, as I described elsewhere, they tried to stop me from making measurements and they were unhappy to see me taking notes. Then after I wrote that description, they used it in their promotional literature without permission. Without telling me!

  • Hi Argon


    Interesting! Please expand on the technical details of how you prepared this alternative video.

    ...as we seem to know the entire "plasma" may have been a fix bright light spot taped by a shaking video camera to create the impression it is a "dancing" and living plasma. There is a reason that the camera shows a blurry overexposed "plasma spot" - would be easy to fix this by using a grey filter or a very short manual shutter time. But Rossi of course wants nobody to know how the plasma looks like...


    There are so many possibilities... others seem to be more creative in this direction... :-)