Rossi E-Cat SK Demo Discussion

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Thanks for acknowledging parts of the facts of the matter. If there was no IP to transfer, then what did IH pay $10M for? It's stated right in the contract that it was for a VALIDATION of the IP.

You are making progress.

For the sake of discussion, imagine (just for a little while) how things would have occurred if Rossi had no special IP, but pretended he did, and maybe fudged things here and there to keep the impression that he did have something going.

How would IH react in that case that is different from the actions that IH did take?

It is perfectly normal to attach gamma and neutron detectors to equipment that is not whatsoever expected to make any gamma or neutrons, and make a big deal that no radiation has been detected.

Shane - you're only partially off your game tonight but that didn't have anything to do with your response to my statement.

Thanks for acknowledging my point.

Regarding the recent radiation unpleasantness in Florida, I understand that the R'ster has rightfully earned the opportunity to address some concerns in the first person.

He can see that folks are far less tempted to throw insults at a person who will trade insults. Don't start nuthin', won't be nuthin'.... and then the insults diminish. That's a positive thing.

That is logic as faulty as is the norm for KevMo, at least in my case. You will note that, normally such a mild-mannered poster, am driven quite impolitely to point out KevMos flaws here, in clear terms, purely because he has this unpleasant habit of using insult as a constant tool in arguments. Up with which I will not put.

But feeding trolls is antisocial: perhaps I should just block him?

Quote from Shane D.

Is Rossi speaking to us, or the Florida Dept of Radiation?

1. Andrea Rossi February 25, 2019 at 2:32 PM

   Fedir Mykhaylov:

   Thank you for your insight.

   We never detected ionizing radiations emitted by the Ecat. All our Ecats are supplied with microSievert/h detectors that would detect any ionizing radiation: if you go to

   http://www.ecatskdemo.com

   you can see the video that shows the Ecat SK with on the top, beside the remote control hub, the radiations detector.

   About our process, I can just forward you to

   http://www.researchgate.net/pu…nge_particle_interactions

   The spectrum of the radiations is well known, ionizing radiation spectrum is well known and we use detectors that are well known and certified to detect any ionizing radiation. Obviously, since we deal with LENR, we have the ballerina duly shielded ( but it is just pretending: the real reason is that I put on her a chastity belt because I am jealous ).

   Obviously I cannot enter into discussions about the process and I am not going to disclose confidential issues.

   Warm Regards,

   A.R.

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He's probably speaking to Mr. Fred Z., who likely contacted the Florida Dept of Radiation (aaagggaaaiiiinn), who are probably getting a little perturbed right about now with his absurd persistence, and who are probably getting tired of making visits to Rossi's premises, only to find that nothing is amiss.

LDM interesting about the low frequency cut off as being a way to measure the temperature..

it’s a pity those frequencies seem cut off in the data... I suppose this is either deliberately or due to the way it is benign measured strongly attenuating that part of the spectrum....

It’s interesting that we get the small feature just after the apparent strong cut off at around 450nm... this makes me wonder if the cut off due to attention.

I wonder though out of curiosity is there a similar approach applicable at the high frequency cut off? If I understand correctly where as the low frequency end is expected to be dominated by thermal cutoff effects the high frequency part of the spectrum is due more to Bremstrahlung emission effects. I suppose that part is not thermal though or optically thick at those frequency (unless there are hotter denser cores) but I suppose the high energy part gives an indication of the energy if the plasma even if none thermal. And if we assume the plasma is thermalised (even if not optically thick) then perhaps we can correlate it to the plasma temperature somehow. But I must admit with out seeing the expected profile of a thermal cut off it’s difficult to be suret that the plasma is thermalised for sure. Although we should perhaps expect that at some long frequency at least.

Just a thought

Alan - are you implying that Rossi's self-induced radiation safety matters should be considered as a "business dispute"?

Interestingly, the local authorities don't seem to think that a $12M fraud is a big deal in Southern FL either - another element of Rossi's genius.

Quote from StephenC

interesting about the low frequency cut off as being a way to measure the temperature..

I stated that it was the upper cutt-off frequency of the intensity versus frequency profile.

This is the high frequency cutt-off, not the low frequency cut-off.

And you are rigth that the upper frequency cutoff is determined by the Bremsstrahlung.

Since the high frequency cutoff for thermal Bremsstrahlung is determined by the factor

e ^-hν/kT

We conveniently determine the cutoff point being where the above factor becomes 1/e then this means that

hν/kT = 1

Or

ν= ( k/h) x T = 2.08E10 x T

Shane - you've got to stop letting that wild donkey of a dog out without his muzzle.

His self-inflicted wounds make me sad.

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1. Gerard McEk
   February 22, 2019 at 7:03 AM Dear Andrea,
   This week I have noticed that you reply on your blog a few hours earlier than previously.
   Is that because you are so extremely busy that you sleep 3 ours less?
   If so, then please be careful with yourself, the world (and your family) needs you.
   On the other hand maybe you are on holidays on Ponta Delgada, then enjoy your holidays, you have earned it very much!
   Kind regards, Gerard
2. Andrea Rossi February 22, 2019 at 7:40 AM Gerard McEk:
   Yes, I am under strong pressure, the work to do is much: this is an effect of the successful I am well and good at work.
   Warm Regards,
   A.R.

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Rossi sleeps about 7-8 hours per night. You can see this on his blog as a nightly period of blogging quiescence when he does not make any posts. Throughout the day, Rossi makes between 5-15 posts at more-or-less random times (although with slightly increased probability first thing in the morning). This daily pattern of alternating quiescence and activity follows the local clock. Thus, when Rossi is in known to be in Florida the timestamps (which are listed in US Eastern Time) on his blogposts occur between about 7:30 AM and midnight, whereas when he is known to be in Europe the timestamps occur between about 1:30AM and about 6PM Eastern Time. Going by this pattern, Rossi spent just over 1/3 of 2018 in a European time zone.

In 2019. so far Rossi has spent all of January and the first week of February the US Eastern time zone (part of which we know was Florida). From about Feb 8 until today (Feb 26), however, he has been in Europe.

In response to Gerard McEk's question, Rossi attempts to leave open the possibility that he is sleeping 3 hours or less per night. He implies that this is because of the pressure of work. His numerous blog postings, however, tell a different story. Since Feb 8, when he first shifted to the European time zone pattern, his posting activity is quiescent for about 7 hours every night ... just as always.

So Mr McEk and sam12, no need to worry about Rossi! Despite his preference for working in the US and the intense pressure he says he is under -- filling orders for heat, overseeing his team, and making sure his factories are working to capacity -- he is in Europe right now and sleeping just fine!

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The police were totally disinterested.

Uninterested! Not disinterested. Disinterested means:

"unbiased by personal interest or advantage; not influenced by selfish motives:a disinterested decision by the referee."

I know, I know, the dictionary has lately listed a second meaning, "indifferent." But it shouldn't.

"So Mr McEk and sam12, no need to worry about Rossi! Despite his preference for working in the US and the intense pressure he says he is under -- filling orders for heat, overseeing his team, and making sure his factories are working to capacity -- he is in Europe right now and sleeping just fine!"

What a passion in a phase of ramping up his new business of selling heat, with an overwhelming feedback from his presentation, new customers, many orders...it is really hilarious to see his followers and believers discussing already the next step with the a new 100kW SK.... A real serious business man! And a real one man show!

LDM StephenC

Very tough to assess cut-off frequencies in Rossi's spectrum because the high-frequency (short wavelength) end has large, non-thermal emission features that interfere with the continuous part of the spectrum and the low-frequency (long wavelength) end appears to have been monkeyed with.

I am guessing that Mr Rossi has used some sort of filter that attenuates wavelengths above 430 nm or so. If that is true then the real spectrum could look like this random one I pulled off the internet

https://www.researchgate.net/f…por-plasma_fig1_265803163

Imagine that you cut off this spectrum above 430 nm and below about 300 nm and you get something like this ...

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/…8447ca9488e96db6426a0.png

I am not suggesting that the complex oxygen-ethanol vapour spectrum is the correct one. Just that a low temperature spectrum with a continuous part having a peak at wavelengths substantially above 357 could be made to look a bit like a higher temperature (i.e., 8111 degrees K) spectrum if the longer wavelengths were cut off somehow. As pointed out before, Mr Rossi needs 8111K in order to argue that his device is putting out 22kW and he needs 22kW, by conventional reasoning, to heat a room of the size he says he is heating..