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I did once...

I did not take up SOT"s kind offer of private "conversations". The public ones are more than enough.

Is someone saying hot fusion doesn't work? Doesn't exist?

http://www.sonicbomb.com/modul…ontent&pa=showpage&pid=20

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He used to work for that notorious counter-cultural fringe group, the U.S. Army

So did Edward Teller.. sort of

totally different personalities

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Is someone saying hot fusion doesn't work? Doesn't exist?

http://www.sonicbomb.com/modul…ontent&pa=showpage&pid=20

SOT in French is a good descritption... The above mentionned nuclear process is the so called Lithium fusion/fission bomb. Has nothing to do with hydrogen fusion. As a consequence of this long time hidden knowledge the US still controlls all nuclear data related to LIthium. They also force IAEA to publish wrong data about e.g. Lithium nuclear radius.

Thanks to Sachrow we know most details about the Lithium (aka hydrogen) bomb.

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the Lithium (aka hydrogen) bomb

https://medium.com/war-is-bori…control-nuke-b4ea845b5d8a

The Russians miscalculated too

http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com…first-soviet-h-bomb-test/

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SOT in French is a good descritption... The above mentionned nuclear process is the so called Lithium fusion/fission bomb. Has nothing to do with hydrogen fusion. As a consequence of this long time hidden knowledge the US still controlls all nuclear data related to LIthium. They also force IAEA to publish wrong data about e.g. Lithium nuclear radius. Thanks to Sachrow we know most details about the Lithium (aka hydrogen) bomb.

And people accuse me of not reading. By the way I think where you wrote "Sachrow," it's Sakharov you're thinking of. Great man. Nobel Peace Prize in 1975. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Sakharov .

No hydrogen fusion in fusion bombs? That would be news to the people who worked on Project Ivy in the 1950's and more particularly, Ivy Mike which used pure liquid deuterium as fusion fuel and yielded >10 megatons. In retrospect, a good part of that yield was fission occurring in the 5 ton natural uranium "tamper" and additional fission in the plutonium "sparkplug" at the center. But about 1/3 of the yield was deuterium-deuterium fusion, chosen for its comparative ease of analysis. https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Ivy.html

When I was younger the story of the Teller-Ulam weapons fascinated me. So much power in so little volume. And large amounts of cryogenic temperature liquid deuterium, no expense spared, in Ivy Mike. In fact. there is a fascinating, personal, stark, and beautifully written one page story about "Mike." It's written by the person responsible for maintaining and pumping the huge quantity of liquid deteurium required for "Mike" and what the very unique machine that did the job was like. The story is found here and I recommend it highly: http://www.as.utexas.edu/~wheel/writing/sleet_sue.text

If you don't want to be an object of ridicule, Wyttenbach , get your facts together before you insult someone. And I am sure I will be the one to be regularly be accused of never reading anything.

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Project Ivy

For those who are fascinated by bombs .. the Russians had the biggest

The sausage was not a bomb..it was an 80 tonne experiment

The shrimp was a bomb of 10 tonnes, made of lithium deuteride

The Tzar bomba was a bigger bomb, 27 tonnes.

It needed a specially designed Bomber to carry it

The Sausage device used liquid deuterium fuel which made for an incredibly huge and complex machine.

The “Sausage” device detonated on Nov. 1, 1952 at Bikini Atoll during Operation Ivy.

It weighed 82 tons and required a small chemical plant to fuel it.

The 10-and-a-half-megaton explosion produced a mile-wide crater and a 20-mile-high mushroom cloud.

But the Sausage was a physics experiment, not a working weapon.

During the next Pacific nuclear test series, America tried out its new lithium-based bomb fuel.

The Shrimp weighed only 10 tons and was roughly the size of a deployable weapon.

The lithium deuteride within its armored innards, derived from natural lithium compounds, consisted mostly of lithium-7.

The Tzar bomba was a demonstration to the USA that

Mother Nature the USSR could screw you royally. (adapted from SOT)

The three-stage thermonuclear weapon was primarily boosted by deuterium-tritium

and believed to have used Lithium-deuteride fuel for fusion stages.

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I hear many conspiracy/lobby theory against LENR by big oil, but from Amoco to Shell, from Toyota to MHI, from BARC to LANL, ENEA and CEA, I see the engineers have done the job, but were blocked by academic or political politics.

Managers, investors and sometimes inventors are very simple minded as the believe: The winner takes all.

This is prehistoric evolutionary tactics invented by brainless mammals or even goes back to bacteria.

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Time to get back on topic, this is not a thread about 'the bomb'.

I think the issue was that Wyttenbach was saying that H-H fusion (or in Ivy Mike, D-D and D-T fusion) doesn't occur. Or at least can't make a bomb. I think that is what he was saying. Anyway, it's what I responded to. And just to finish off the topic, robert bryant , there was in fact a flyable bomb design based on Ivy Mike.

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Due to its physical size and fusion fuel type (cryogenic liquid deuterium), the Mike device was not suitable for use as a deliverable weapon; it was intended as an extremely conservative proof of concept experiment to validate the concepts used for multi-megaton detonations. A simplified and lightened bomb version (the EC-16) was prepared and scheduled to be tested in operation Castle Yankee, as a backup in case the non-cryogenic "Shrimp" fusion device (tested in Castle Bravo) failed to work; that test was cancelled when the Bravo device was tested successfully, making the cryogenic designs obsolete.

(Wikipedia on Operation Ivy Mike)

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I speculate: The UBC lab had no Idea Nature would pounce like that, (although I believe that someone had to - and whoever that was let it slide). They are still thinking like seven of twenty, that information and rationality will make everybody happy that a revolutionary new energy source that's going to change the living arrangements on Earth is welcome in all sectors. It is not.

Perhaps UBC will be circumspect about publishing in Nature from now on..

or make sure any publication is not accompanied by political commentary.

Is Nature worried about declining revenue?

Their traditional publishing powerbase has been upset by the Internet

but do they really need such twitter marketing.

As for Curtis Berlinguette ..retweeting... an experienced chemist but

a babe in the woods as concerns 'politics'

maybe he should done a few social science papers

in his undergraduate time.

1. Kirby June 19, 2019 at 5:50 AM

   Dr Rossi,

   Have you been interviewed about the Woodford-IH mess?

2. Andrea Rossi June 19, 2019 at 6:53 AM

   Kirby:

   I have been contacted from many journalists, but refused any interview.

   Warm Regards,

   A.R.

Appropriate brief soundclip:

http://goo.gl/fMCWN