No - I suspect WPCT sleeps with the fishes before long. Which is a huge shame for those who put their pension into it.
News about Woodford and Industrial Heat
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Respectfully, your chart doesn't say what you think it says.
Did you read the Muddy Waters report? Do you understand the allegations?
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RobertBryant - I don't know who you are but have to ask if Mizuno is aware that you are publishing his private emails?
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Respectfully, your chart doesn't say what you think it says.
Did you read the Muddy Waters report? Do you understand the allegations?
What do you think I think it says?
I'm aware that the short seller thought they were overpriced - with misleading accounts - and it was probably true. But generally markets overreact. I don't have a strong view on this and they might be every bit has bad as the short PR indicates - but probably only half as much.
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RobertBryant - I don't know who you are but have to ask if Mizuno is aware that you are publishing his private emails?
You mean this one
MIZUNO-SAN YORI Fri 29/09/2017 3:57 PM
Dear Bryant Thank you sent me important information.
You ask Mizuno for me..DW..
He didn't really enjoy the shooting range in Carolina either
Mizuno was too polite to say
guns just aren't his thang... nuclear fusion is..
I
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RB - I did ask Mizuno during a recent visit and he says he doesn't know who you are or what you are up to. He said that whoever you are that you don't speak for him. His wife says something quite different about the experiences that he had while he was in NC which all happened at his request.
You have a very familiar air about you RB.
Anybody interested in the published under oath discovery can go look up the record in the depositions.
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RB - I did ask Mizuno during a recent visit and he says he doesn't know who you
I am Robert Bryant..
The last email MIzuno shared with me was commiserations for my dead dog... five weeks ago.
I was surprised that he found the time to reply given how busy he is with R20
Mizuno has a deep love of animals and in fact all living things
About the guns visit
Mizuno was actually repulsed by it...
His wife says something quite different
There is infinite politeness in the Japanese of Mizuno's generation
You have no idea ...judging by your past rhetoric
but I am married with one and function in the Japanese milieu with just the occasional faux pas
Anybody interested in the published under oath discovery can go look up the record in the depositions.
I was wondering what happened to Joe... does IH still employ him?
this is all old news published on this forum two years ago..
I guess DW was busy at that time ..with oaths,...and depositions..
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RB - I don't have time to play with you these days but would like to post that I've got 30+ years experience in dealing with Japanese scientist, corporations, citizens and culture including man years on the ground there.
For the record, I taught Mizuno how to shoot sporting clays at his request. He got pretty good after a couple of boxes of shells.
He also wanted to understand the physics of firearms and I gladly obliged.
I've figured out the familiar smell.
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I've figured out the familiar smell
Kia bro
anytime you want to ramp down to the level of tarheel politeness DW..
"Last year, I went to NC and took a handgun and clay shooting for the first time. Clay shooting felt as sports. However, the handgun was a very terrible experience. The strong shock when fired and the reaction received in the hand were horrible. It is not human beings that can fire such weapons towards creatures. It is considered as a devil. I cannot have such a gun in Japan. I think it is very good. " Mizuno
I don't have time to play with you
DW jumped in from another sandpit
My post is in response to THHnew persistent allegations against Mizuno
about which DW apparently is industrially polite and has been since 2017
I guess it helps IH in some way to be industrially polite..
Nothing that DW has written since 2017 changes my opinion on the question of "honor"
THH2017
"It is academic, because the IH replication failed. Still, I'd like to debug this. But not sure I have the motivation to spend long amts of time on it given the IH work."
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RB - you are the same twisty morphy mofo as before.
Have you ever seen a live lobster samurai sliced and put on a grill? - it lives for several minutes, split in half, until cooked / served in Japan.
Have you ever seen a live prawn put on a grill and have it try to get away until if falls over and quivers until served in Japan?
Both are delicious to quote your good friend.
We in the south can hold a clean bead and the food we bring home doesn't suffer.
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RB - you are the same twisty morphy mofo as before.
God Bless you ..DW .. in the south
Joe's words .. under oath..
but we did his exact procedure and process on his reactor in our facility, and we still·were not able to do it.
Mizuno
". Furthermore, I carefully explained the fact that It must first heat up the impure gas from the wall of the nickel or reactor and then it can be heated. But they first heated up. It was near 350 degrees.
Perhaps Joe has industrial memory coloured by a payout from IH
Dewey Weaver was industrially POLITE enough to NOT convey Joe's words to Mizuno....to NOT convey Joe's words to Mizuno
If DW was polite like this to me.. I would politely show him the door with my boot.
being from the south of the south.. latitude 36 .52 S
36 52 S Posted two years ago
- 人十色Fri 29/09/2017 1:09 PM
Hi Mizuno san
How are you. I hope the autumn is beautiful in Sapporo
I don’t think the men in Raleigh North Carolina know what ‘honor’ means.
I think the USA has forgotten “名誉” .
Here are the words of Murray-san in the Miami court.
If you need to translate them….my friends at Japanese church in Sydney can do
JOSEPH ALAN MURRAY, Raleigh, North Carolina having first been duly sworn, was examined and did testify as follows:
Q.· · Okay.· What about Dr. Mizuno?· Were you able ·to identically reproduce what he was doing?
A.· ·No, we were not.· So Dr. Mizuno had conducted
·a, a series of these plasma-based technique tests in his ·lab in, in Sapporo, Japan.·
more robust instrumentation set, and then re, have him·reproduce the experiments exactly as he had before.· And·once we re-instrumented the, the equipment and put a·little better controls in his lab on the environmental·conditions, we couldn't get the same result again.·
And·that was in his lab.· Still, the, the senior management at·Industrial Heat, they, their view was if any of these ·technologies have even one percent probability of
·success, they want us to go all the way to the end to ·find if anything works, because they were very eager to, ·to find something that was successful.· And so, so at·that time we didn't see results.· So what we did was was ·set up an independent test of Dr. Mizuno's in our lab,·and we completely replicated his system and we followed·his recipe.· We couldn't get it to work. And so then Dr. Mizuno sent over a system that he had prepared for us and brought it to our facility, and then he came over and he spent, I don't·know if it was a week or ten days,
he spent some time in our lab setting that up and going through his process that he had defined to validate it.·
And we, and there were some nuances.·
So, so our concern, you know, our conclusion was that the one set of data where he had changed some instrumentation was indeterminate.· We couldn't make head or tails of it, but we were not able, in any of the series of experiments, able to produce that result, so.
Q.· Why was it necessary for him to come over and
·do the experiment in North Carolina as opposed to just·relying on the one that you had built?
Q.· · So why then did you have to have him come over and test it again?
A.· Well, because Mr. Darden was, wanted us to drive to the end, that if there was even one percent chance that that one measurement he did was correct,
then let's get to the bottom of it.· And there was a big·language barrier.· So what we did was we had him, after we were able using all of his information, able to reproduce it or not able to reproduce it, what we had·him do was we had him to come over and use one of his·reactors in our facility to see if there was something,some nuance difference that we just weren't getting, and·then try to reproduce it.· But we were not able to get·it to work even with him there.
Q.· · Would you say that it is essential to work with the inventor in order to make sure that you're getting absolutely everything to attempt to replicate
A.· · In my opinion, yes.· I mean if, these are very nuanced and subtle areas.·
MIZUNO-SAN YORI Fri 29/09/2017 3:57 PM
Dear Bryant Thank you sent me important information.
Shane D., Alan Smith, Ahlfors and 4 others like this.
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http://coldfusioncommunity.net…/01/0215.03_Exhibit_C.pdf. From Joe Murray's depo (pp. 59-62):
Q. [by Annesser]· · Okay. What about Dr. Mizuno? Were you able to identically reproduce what he was doing?
A.· · No, we were not. So Dr. Mizuno had conducted a, a series of these plasma-based technique tests in his lab in, in Sapporo, Japan. And so myself [sic] and some of the other engineers went to Sapporo and looked at his test apparatus and, and looked at his data. He was very forthright, shared all of his data, everything he had with us. There were some challenges just because of his physical environment. He had a very small lab. He didn't have good control over the environmental conditions in the lab. And so we had some reservations, but he had some results that were just anomalous. We couldn't quite understand them. So what we did was we didn't notice that during his testing he -- and I should note, you know, he's a, he's a wonderful person, but I should note that he was one person and an assistant. He didn't have a lot of people to help him. So what we found was that in the middle of his experimentation or kind of towards the tail end he had changed a piece of equipment. And so that was a concern, because you never want to see in the middle of a test somebody changing a piece of equipment. You could introduce all kinds of problems. So what we did was we worked with him to go back to his experiments, instrument them with a much more robust instrumentation set, and then re, have him reproduce the experiments exactly as he had before. And once we re-instrumented the, the equipment and put a little better controls in his lab on the environmental conditions, we couldn't get the same result again. And that was in his lab. Still, the, the senior management at Industrial Heat, they, their view was if any of these technologies have even one percent probability of success, they want us to go all the way to the end to find if anything works, because they were very eager to, to find something that was successful. And so, so at that time we didn't see results. So what we did was we set up an independent test of Dr. Mizuno's in our lab, and we completely replicated his system and we followed his recipe.· We couldn't get it to work. And so then Dr. Mizuno sent over a system that he had prepared for us and brought it to our facility, and then he came over and he spent, I don't know if it was a week or ten days, he spent some time in our lab setting that up and going through his process that he had defined to validate it.· And we, and there were some nuances. I mean between the translation between Japanese and English, and there were some nuances that he highlighted while he was there that were subtle differences, but we did his exact procedure and process on his reactor in our facility, and we still were not able to do it. So, so our concern, you know, our conclusion was that the one set of data where he had changed some instrumentation was indeterminate. We couldn't make head or tails of it, but we were not able, in any of the series of experiments, able to produce that result, so.
Q. Why was it necessary for him to come over and do the experiment in North Carolina as opposed to just relying on the one that you had built?
A. How do you mean?
Q. Well, you said you, you constructed it based on his formula, his, his design and tested, and it did not produce results.
A. Right.
Q. So why then did you have to have him come over and test it again?
A. Well, because Mr. Darden was, wanted us to drive to the end, that if there was even one percent chance that that one measurement he did was correct, then let's get to the bottom of it. And there was a big language barrier. So what we did was we had him, after we were able using all of his information, able to reproduce it or not able to reproduce it, what we had him do was we had him to come over and use one of his reactors in our facility to see if there was something, some nuance difference that we just weren't getting, and then try to reproduce it. But we were not able to get it to work even with him there. -
. But we were not able to get it to work even with him there
Nuances ... ah 30 years in Japan...
Have you ever seen a live lobster samurai sliced and put on a grill?
I've seen Carolina goose cooked and dived for and eaten raw uni..
its a Maori delicacy in the south .. 36.52S
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RB - your hours are interesting.
Check your email - you have mail.
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Check your email - you have mail
Sorry..no time to get into DWs sandpit.
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RB - you are the same twisty morphy mofo as before.
Have you ever seen a live lobster samurai sliced and put on a grill? - it lives for several minutes, split in half, until cooked / served in Japan.
Have you ever seen a live prawn put on a grill and have it try to get away until if falls over and quivers until served in Japan?
Both are delicious to quote your good friend.
We in the south can hold a clean bead and the food we bring home doesn't suffer.
Hi Dewey Weaver,
Nice to hear from you again! I am glad to see you brought your threatening to another level. You are a true Tarantino on the interblogs. It is beyond me that there are still LENR researchers willing to do business with you and / or your cronies. People are perhaps oblivious to lock-in risks once they think they are saving the planet. Good that you don't hold back though..
Cheers,
JB
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Only WCG, of the same twisty morphy cult, could interpret Teppanyaki as a threat.
Got an overnight note from Mizuno regarding RB - the damage is done.
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If what you are saying about Japanese politeness is true, then I can't see how this discussion is anything but an embarrassment to Mizuno.
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After the tragedy of the Fukushima Daishi nuclear plant after the 2011 Sendai Earthquake, a Japanese expression called Tatemae became widely used and known through the media, to describe how Japanese culture kept an always polite and correct public facade even if its completely againts the Honne (true reality of events or personal opinions). I think the distance reflected in these strikingly different versions of the same events reported by the trial statements/DW’s account and in a private communication corresponds to the Tatemae and Honne sides of the coin being expressed by Dr. Mizuno.
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the Tatemae and Honne sides
very perceptive Curbina
I 've lived with these two sides for thirty years.
Tatemae is a necessary survival mechanism in Japan but something of an impediment outside.
For the success of the technology
the bone of the bones of the truth are essential
This is what made Horikoshi Jiro's Zero airplane fly.... the warchest and nationalism did contribute some impetus.
My bones are on the honne side
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