Mizuno reports increased excess heat

    The objective of these lines of experiments are simply to provide objective third party validation of excess heat not attributable to any possible chemical reaction. The design of a system for practical use will look nothing like this. COPs are irrelevant as Jed says and can be hacked. Absolute power is a good parameter. Measuring 80W of absolute power on a background of 650W is not difficult. Temperature measurements were maximum SD of 0.2C per run. Power input should have been even more precise but most SD were about half a watt and the maximum SD was for the 650W nominal 644W actual power input was 3.2W. That’s 25 sigmas. We are working with independent validators with an aim to stimulate investment. These companies are not specialists in calorimetry but corporate entities performing unpaid validations based upon our supply of reactors and using their own equipment for calorimetry. Since this is their own equipment it rules out many possible forms of systematic error specific to our equipment in our own lab.


    Sanshu Kogyo and now a major publicly listed Japanese firm have both been able to show 10s to 100s of watts of absolute excess heat each and every time it is measured.


    If I designed and built my own calorimeter I could get much better data getting the best data is not the objective now.


    It should be noted that even the best hot fusion results real Q totals are not more than 0.1 so in that context LENR at 1.12 is blowing hot fusion out of the water.


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    Quote from Daniel_G

    the best hot fusion results real Q totals are not more than 0.1 so in that context LENR at 1.12 is blowing hot fusion out of the water.

    Daniel..Hot fusion is a 2050+ receding mirage not worthy of comparison.

    The Bangalore lab has reported 1.2 'COP' with Sm +Ni/Pd at 300w

    but their financing is not generous

    The crucial factor is money to

    do the R&D to increase from 'COP 1+ to 10 or more.

    It appears that by tying up with boiler manufacturers your group has the most of that crucial factor

    Good luck


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    Robert while I agree with your assessment of hot fusion the frauds that run the multi ten billion dollar scam continue to suck vast resources while we struggle to get pittances while we remain light years ahead of the HF frauds and charlatans in terms of producing usable energy. Even if the theoretical goals are met for ITER they will not even be close to net power gain capable of producing practical energy.

    Quote from Alan Fletcher

    Something's wrong with the Calibration system (Blue) .... it's non-linear.
    Why does the COP fall as power increases? (Red, Black) ... is it due to a lossy calorimeter like the blue line?

    (Sorry if this was discussed earlier)

    I agree the calibration looks “strange”. We have to be wary of confirmation bias based on what we expect the data to look like but I would like to see more details of the calibration as a start. The data I posted does not have any air flow. The input power is set and the system temperature increases until losses = inputs and an equilibrium temperature is reached. Air inside the incubator is well mixed and temperature variations are much lower than one kelvin. We are also working on other forms of calorimetry as well as increasing power to 10+ kW and leaving the energy in a form that can eventually do practical work.

    Quote from Paradigmnoia

    I would think that a LEC-like effect is too subtle for the Mizuno calorimeter to detect.

    I think that the energy released by an LEC could be detected by calorimetry, to confirm the measurements of electrical power, on the condition of using a very sensitive calorimeter. About ten years ago, I proposed this improvement of the Curie calorimeter.



    The idea is to count the bubbles of liquid nitrogen by an optical means. We could measure nanowatts without a problem.

    Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I care about elimination of systematic error and how many sigmas I can get away from rejection of the null hypothesis. From both these standpoints I’m pleased with the results. There will be those researchers out there that don’t agree and that’s fine. The industry must keep moving on. Cop of 1200 and 1 nano watt of power does not trump a cop of 1.2 and 80W but that’s just my opinion. If we are going to go there COP of 2 is quite arbitrary in my honest opinion. You will lose 50% when converting heat to electricity anyway so net zero. Happy fusing to all!

    Quote from Alan Fletcher

    Something's wrong with the Calibration system (Blue) .... it's non-linear.
    Why does the COP fall as power increases? (Red, Black) ... is it due to a lossy calorimeter like the blue line?

    (Sorry if this was discussed earlier)

    All we know about the calorimeter is in the report photo. It is a super lossy and slow acrylic box design, and might take 4 to 5 hours or more to reach steady state.

    Quote from Alan Fletcher

    Something's wrong with the Calibration system (Blue) .... it's non-linear.

    Good point.


    That is not necessarily a problem. It depends on the details of the calorimeter. If the calorimeter is an insulated box with thin insulation, you would expect the curve to bend down at high input power. Over a smaller range of input power, with only small heat losses from the box, you couldn't see this effect. Almost all of the heat would be captured by the flow calorimetry.


    On the other hand, the blue and dotted lines reach higher temperatures, yet they seem more linear. They do bend a little. That is odd. I think we need more information to understand why it is acting this way.


    There are only 3 calibration points, which bothers me.

    Quote from JedRothwell

    There are only 3 calibration points,

    its a question of rupees .. hopefully Ramarao can push for as many

    as were spent on the Akash missile which he worked on..

    rather than pittances

    Perhaps he can slot into the new H economy funds

    India must protect the independence of its landmark science agency
    The new science-funding agency will allow many thousands of university researchers to develop their talents. Its architects must work with the government to…
    www.nature.com

    Quote from RobertBryant

    its a question of rupees .. hopefully Ramarao can push for as many

    as were spent on the Akash missile which he worked on.

    I do not see why calibration points would be a question of rupees. They take only time. At most one day per point, I think. Spend 3 days calibrating and you get 3 points. 5 days giving 5 points would be better, I think.

    Quote from Daniel_G

    These companies are not specialists in calorimetry but corporate entities performing unpaid validations based upon our supply of reactors and using their own equipment for calorimetry.

    It is good that they made their own calorimeters. At this stage, that is more important than making their own reactors. In fact, their own reactors probably would not work. "Unpaid validations" does not sound good. Who is not paying? Mizuno is not paying them? Or their own companies are not paying them -- and the work is being done after hours. If you mean the latter, that tells me the companies do not take this seriously. It could be bad news.

    Quote from RobertBryant

    its a question of rupees .. hopefully Ramarao can push for as many

    as were spent on the Akash missile which he worked on..

    rather than pittances

    Perhaps he can slot into the new H economy funds

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00327-1

    They can use Sylvania brand incandescent lamps. The stated power consumption is remarkably precise at the stated voltage, and the cost is reasonable.

    Other quality lamps are probably similar.

    Quote from Paradigmnoia

    Sylvania brand incandescent lamps.

    I use $2 incandescents+ $30 thermostat to make natto..in an old winecooler.


    the other stuff ..multiple temp.sensors. samarium palladium nickel acrylic

    heater insulation blowers argon vacuum?

    316ss

    I don't need...but they need for R&D

    a more expensive step is a gammaspec as here in Sendai..2019 with the Be window..

    "

    The following two instruments were installed for the measurement of low-energy
    photons. (1) For low-energy soft-X-rays (1keV-100keV), we made it possible to detect with an
    SDD detector (XR-100SDD; AMPTEK Inc.) through a Be window installed in the chamber.
    (2) For visible light measurement, a spectroscope using amp array CMOS image sensor
    (C12666MA; Hamamatsu Photonics K.K.) was installed, and the visible light transmitted
    through the viewport was guided to the spectroscope using a fiber so that the spectrum (340-
    780nm) could be measured.
    Details of the experiments and results will be reported.


    http://jcfrs.org/JCF20/jcf20-abstracts.pdf

    They need some foam board for the calorimeter to straighten out that calibration curve, and they should turf the acrylic altogether except for a window maybe, in my opinion.

    Their heat curve might start bending up at the end if the calibration line was much more linear

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