MIZUNO REPLICATION AND MATERIALS ONLY

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It seems that the appearance of Calcite crystals on the treated mesh depends on the volume of water used for the one-hour soak. The MR1 mesh was processed using about 3 liters of tap water and no crystals appeared. For a test today I heated just 500 ml of tap water, and added about 300 ml more over the hour to replace evaporation loss. After cooling, the pH of the water had increased from 7.02 to 7.96, indicating substantial concentration of dissolved minerals.

The mesh samples had plentiful crystal deposits after this treatment. So add this to the many unknowns in the protocol.

So many questions could be asked, but were the calcite crystals visible to the naked eye like the microscope photos appear to suggest? I guess I'm imagining a situation similar to the photo attached below.

Quote from Shane D.

Mostly what I and Alan have been told, is what has been done wrong. Which implies indirectly, on how to do it right. Nothing unfortunately, so specific as preparation of the mesh...sorry. Early on, Rothwell gave detailed info on that, but of course you knew that already, and incorporated that into your mesh prep. We know nothing in addition to that.

That said, we specifically are being told why many of the replications are *not* working, and that is because of substandard equipment, water calorimetry instead of air, and improper sensors. Then there is the all encompassing "unknown reasons" provided us. It covers those like yourself doing everything
right from what they see, but still unsuccessful.

Here is the real question and somewhat the "elephant in the room"....

Is Mizuno himself replicating with high success?

If so, why no data or reports to assist? That data would be invaluable to replicators.

If not then it is not surprising others cannot replicate and casts a shadow on the first results.

I have asked this before, but never a clear answer. Can Mizuno replicate at will? Not necessarily the exact same COP, etc. but clear and documented excess heat?

Quote from Bob#2

I have asked this before, but never a clear answer. Can Mizuno replicate at will?

May be you should read all posts. Yes he could (according posts) but with the old COP...

Quote from Curbina

You have not paid attention then. Mizuno has been able to get excess heat but not at the levels of the R20 reactor. This has been stated by JedRothwell even before ICCF22.

Why I do not post here regularly as of late, I have kept a general eye open.

Almost a year ago, it was reported of the Mizuno "lower COP" replication. However, few specifics and nothing since that I am aware. I.E. Long term, viewed and reviewed by others, etc. etc. My understanding is that Mizuno sent some reactors out to replicators, but little has been reported and nothing formal that I am aware of.

So I would ask you,... is Mizuno currently running a successful reactor? It it being visited or reviewed by others? (Probably not currently due to Covid19) but what about in December etc? I have heard of no self replications since almost a year and it had greatly reduced power out. No data reported would indicate no current replications?

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So many questions could be asked, but were the calcite crystals visible to the naked eye like the microscope photos appear to suggest? I guess I'm imagining a situation as in the attached photo.

Probably not unless the viewer has exceptional eyesight. The crystals are typically 5-10 microns and contrast less in visible light compared to SEM imaging. A compound loupe or small optical microscope should be able to see them easily.

magicsound

I indeed got tricked by them being visible in high contrast in the SEM photos. My main point was that if such crystals were clearly noticeable (perhaps even in the form of an opaque layer if seen from a distance) they would have probably been mentioned in Mizuno's report for the burnishing step.

CaCO3 is poorly soluble in pure water (source), so increasing its concentration should increase the phenomenon. However it's soluble in acidic solutions, so I think the Pd plating solution (pH=1.5) used in alternative to the burnishing step could have dissolved the crystals at least to some extent.

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magicsound

I indeed got tricked by them being visible in high contrast in the SEM photos. My main point was that if such crystals were clearly noticeable (perhaps even in the form of an opaque layer if seen from a distance) they would have probably been mentioned in Mizuno's report for the burnishing step.

CaCO3 is poorly soluble in pure water (source), so increasing its concentration should increase the phenomenon. However it's soluble in acidic solutions, so I think the Pd plating solution (pH=1.5) used in alternative to the burnishing step could have dissolved the crystals at least to some extent.

Maybe check and see if the carbonate is fluorescent in SW or LW UV.
Pure CaCO3 generally isn’t, but if it has picked up a bit of Ni or Pd it might.

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Maybe check and see if the carbonate is fluorescent in SW or LW UV.
Pure CaCO3 generally isn’t, but if it has picked up a bit of Ni or Pd it might.

Calcite crystal is both fluorescent and birefringent. IIRC, its polarization splitting extends into the deep infrared. That is one reason I think it might be an active agent in the Mizuno system.

Attached image copied from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…uorescence_in_calcite.jpg

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My understanding is that Mizuno sent some reactors out to replicators, but little has been reported and nothing formal that I am aware of.

We have not heard back from most of them. Only Saito reported significant success.

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is Mizuno currently running a successful reactor? It it being visited or reviewed by others?

He is as far as I know. He was last year. See Slide 8, here. Note that it describes a vister.

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTincreasedea.pdf

Quote from magicsound

Calcite crystal is both fluorescent and birefringent. IIRC, its polarization splitting extends into the deep infrared. That is one reason I think it might be an active agent in the Mizuno system.

Will the calcite crystals (crushed by the burnishing step) retain their structure in a low pressure hydrogen atmosphere in contact with nickel/palladium (i.e. by extension, catalytically-split atomic hydrogen) at elevated temperatures, or after prolonged vacuum cycles? If these operating conditions favor their decomposition to CaO, there could be similarities to experiments by Iwamura et al—CaO was an active agent/promoter in their case. This would also imply that more efficient methods of introducing this compound in the burnished layer of Mizuno-type materials could be found.

https://mospace.umsystem.edu/x…ermeationPresentation.pdf

A previously mentioned alternative is that the deposited CaCO₃ will for the most part serve as an inert impurity favoring gap generation according to Storms' theory (by incorporation in the burnished/deposited layer), regardless of other properties it may have in the form of calcite crystals.

Mesh prep for MR2 went well: 21 mg of Pd was deposited on the mesh with good density and distribution. Details have been added to the live doc at https://tinyurl.com/vudbmro
The mesh is now in the cell, with bake-out running. I expect to add D₂ tomorrow afternoon and start MR2.1 first thing Monday.

Positive news at last! Yay!

Quote from Curbina

I think this is the proper place to convey very good news that we have been made aware of, through the back channels, from a person working directly with Dr. Mizuno:

I wouldn't call this news. I would call it rumor.

What Curbina should really have written is something like 'I think this is the proper place to convey yet another interesting rumor that aligns with our preconceptions'.