Silver Science - Hydrogen from Waste

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    Love the hole in the t- shirt

    Ruby is coming to the rescue with a new LENR T-shirt. I have one coming also. And since it is already in the abstracts, I can add she will introduce her LENR cartoon book soon. She has been working very hard on that for quite some time...along with so many other projects; i.e. interviews, teaching Math, preparing for this ICCF, painting. From what I and Alan have already seen, it is a treasure. Presenting a humorous, yet editorial perspective on LENR's history.

  • If i have well understood at same place Ecalox drives several activities as hydrogen by aluminium product, Russ Georges researches, Lenr helping.

    I suggest this is the kind of multi-skill pole that needs to be developed to move forward.

    There will be salutary synergies in the team and you never know which way will decide that will be the best one.

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    In around 3 years of intensive work we have achieved some significant things. As well as the hydrogen and LENR work (which we are stepping up to a new level with the addition of a Mass Spec and Turbo vacuum gear) I have developed and bench tested a profitable new method of recycling whole Tetrapacks (cartons for milk and fruit juice) which nobody has been able to do before. These are a composite of paper, plastic, and aluminium, and my method turns them into foamed insulation board which is fireproof and insect-proof. This is a benign and relatively inexpensive process- no emissions no toxic chemicals -and nobody else in the world has done it. I also have developed and tested a methof of recycling circuit boards which is the only one that does not require acids or other nasty chemicals.

    The whole recycling business is full of low-hanging fruit, and a bit of smart chemistry and a lot of experience has shown me ways of doing this stuff that have never been done before -always with the aim of developing clean and totally biosafe methods of dealing with 'dirty stuff'..

  • Alan Smith

    I remember those TETRAPAK packages for milk, when I had to be no more than 6 years old, I think.
    At the time, I didn't understand how this packaging couldn't melt by this UHT principle, I was already asking technical questions ..:)
    Of course this is a huge mess, it still lacks, in my opinion, strong governments incentives to force to do more recycling, I would say "technical".
    Unfortunately from your side,it seems to be very busy, right now, the government..:(

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    Plasma gasification (which according to Santilli generates excess energy from the generation of magnecules of the gases that are created from the materials in contact with the plasma arc) would be better suited for liquid waste. Liquefying (by grinding and suspension in wastewater) the garbage first could help. I looked into this kind of technology for some years, thinking on its application for combined municipal sewage treatment/energy generation, but the price Santilli’s company charged for a small scale plant were too high and they did not offer me the option to lease the plant for a pilot project that would have validated the technology for bringing investors later. Now that Magnegas changed name to Taronis technologies, they seem to have improved the plasma arc section of their reactors with a system that allows a controllable residence time in the chamber to increase the opportunity of contact with the arc. Unfortunately they are now focused in selling gas and obtaining grants from the government for pilot scale projects of waste treatment, so you can tell the technology is far from mature yet.

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    Curbina according to Plasco, it worked just fine on solid waste. They were planning to generate electricity for syngas to offset losses on flat garbage disposal fee around 60 dollars per tonne. All I am saying they could have had 'idealistic' understanding of garbage. Same goes for recycled material. What Alan might have used in the lab is not necessarily what people will put in recycling. I do see, though, how this product can be valuable in the certain niches.

    I place my bets on improving hydrolysis tech whatever it is - solar-h2 , solar-power-h2, wind-power-h2, etc

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    What Alan might have used in the lab is not necessarily what people will put in recycling. I do see, though, how this product can be valuable in the certain niches.

    I agree that real post-consumer waste can be very problematic. This is where the areas of public education about recycling and also intelligent waste collection, sorting and treatment become vital. I'm notunder any illusions about the difficulties, but some things are ok- post consumer milk cartons are ideal in some ways, since the casein (milk protein) acts as a binder, and the process I use converts the milk fat to solid waxy stearins, which might help with waterproofing. Yet to be proven though.

  • Alan Smith your recycling process sounds pretty promising. Any company producing aluminium scrap should be interested, because this could be an additional business model. Close where I live there are at least three companies which would be potential customers. Ball Packaging with Rauch / Red Bull, Hydro Extrusion and Mahle Automotive. Plenty of aluminium scrap.😉

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    Max Nozin . Big problems with that one you know. All of the carbon/aluminium work has been in the public domain (in various forms) since the 1970's. Getting it to work is mostly an engineering problem - but he has competitors in the USA who are already selling commercial versions to the USN.

    Did you notice this odd little note at the foot of the article you linked BTW?

    [Author’s note: A Google search for “Austin Electric Essex UK” failed to turn up any information or website for the company. The photos in the Daily Mail story are proprietary and cannot be republished by CleanTechnica, but nothing prevents you from reading the Daily Mail story yourself. I have guests from the UK staying with me at the moment and they suggest the Daily Mail may not enjoy the highest reputation for journalistic excellence.]

    But a Companies House search reveals Austin are (like us) based on a farm nearby, but were only incorporated a month ago,

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