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Quote from Shane D.

At 12:50 Bill Collis has some advice for the field, as he tries to encourage a more disciplined, nuclear centric approach going forward. Frowns on "looking for heat", as a dead end that will not break LENR out of the vicious circle it is stuck in.

I disagree. No heat means there is no cold fusion. "Heat is the principle signature of the reaction. - Fleischmann. If "nuclear-centric" means looking for neutrons, it is a dead end.

Quote from JedRothwell

If "nuclear-centric" means looking for neutrons

Bill Collis perhaps means nuclear mechanism centric..

gamma emission spectra.. such as the Essex lab has been doing and Kasagi has recommended. He recommends looking in the sub 100 kev region

the heat is the final product low grade product.<< 1 Ev.... but the energy originates at the high end ... 22Mev.

what's going on btw Mev and ev is the nuclear mechanism.

Quote from Curbina

Those who have looked for transmutation even in electrolysis experiments have found it.

Many of those who look for transmutation find it almost everywhere, from chicken eggs to lightbulbs and even dental implants. It is amazing that chemistry has managed to hold together as a science at all.

Quote from Paradigmnoia

Many of those who look for transmutation find it almost everywhere

Almost everywhere is a rhetorical exaggeration.

The cool biosphere is kept fairly safe from transmutation it otherwise it might not hold together at all,

some evidence for minor occurrence..

- Kervran's poorly evidenced transmuted Calcium in egg shells

- Vysotskii 's slightly better evidenced Cs137 reduction with bacteria,

However under hot hot conditions where hydrogen is present in high concentrations

and catalysts exist ,LENR transmutation is an alternative to the conventional explanations

e.g.

- In the sun heavy atoms are attributed to primordial origin in massive supernovae..distant in time and space

-In the Earth's crust/mantle Helium-3 has always been attributed to primordial origin 5 Gigayears ago.

Quote from Shane D.

. . . and the fastest way to a theory is via research geared towards learning the nuclear mechanisms.

The only way to a theory is to produce the reaction. No reaction means there is nothing to study.

In the past, people have looked for nuclear mechanisms and nuclear evidence in cells that did not produce measurable excess heat. This is a waste of time. It is like fishing in a dry hole. No heat means there was no reaction, and there will be no evidence. If you think you found transmutations in such a cell, you are probably wrong. It is probably contamination. If you think you found neutrons, it is noise.

Some people try to do cold fusion without even trying to measure heat. This is a waste of time squared. They have no idea whether the reaction even occurred -- and it probably did not. So going to the next step to look for nuclear evidence is even more futile than usual. At least, when you look for heat and you don't see it, you know there is no point to looking for other evidence. You save the time and effort it would take.

Not measuring heat in cold fusion is equivalent to not measuring radioactivity in conventional fission. You have no clue whether anything is happening.

More transient excess heat results due to using too high deuterium/hydrogen gas pressures (similar to Zhang's replication attempts). Holmlid has clearly shown that pressures above one or two mBar block -muon formation and thus subsequent fusion reactions. So it looks like there is an initial burst of fusion reactions which are then blocked by the high gas pressures. They need to go down to the Mizuno reactor levels (100-300 Pa) to obtain sustained, high power excess energy release.

Holmlid uses high D/H pressure as a control run as in discussion;

The pulse shower of charged particles formed by the laser pulse gives a large voltage disturbance in all parts of the apparatus. In Fig. 3, the procedure used to subtract this voltage from the particle signal at the collector and to find the true particle signalto thecollectoris demonstrated.This disturbanceis notduetothelaser-pulse field or any pulsing from the laser equipment, as can be seen by increasing the gas pressure in the chamber. With a few mbar hydrogen gas, this disturbance decreases strongly. Thus, this voltage is due to the current pulse in the form of charged particles ejected from the target by the laser-pulse impact and by the countercurrent flowing in the chamber walls. Increased gas pressure stops the charged particles rapidly and the particle pulse does not give any strong current in the walls of the chamber. All the other signals shown in the figures are the signals after subtraction of the voltage disturbance measured simultaneously with another position of the collector pin.