Google (UBC/MIT/LBNL) post Nature updates.

    • Official Post

    The “embargo date” is probably a typo and meant 2020, anyway the abstract doesn’t says much, good thing is a peer reviewed publication from a National Lab, I hope it’s a positive result from the LENR point of view. The abstract gives some hints:


    In this Crada we designed and fabricated plasma discharge devices and operated them with deuterium and hydrogen gases. We studied the dynamics of plasma discharged in the glow discharge regime. We quantified rates of fusion reactions between deuterium atoms and ions that we accelerated from plasma discharges into palladium targets. The results showed enhanced fusion reaction rates in metal hydrides compared to know rates form gas phase reaction, likely due to modifications of the electron screening potentials and associated tunnel barrier probability increases. We modeled this effect and published it in the peer reviewed publications listed above.

  • It will be interesting to see if this paper sheds any light on Philip Ball’s piece in the MRS Bulletin, wherein he wrote that:

    "Schenkel’s studies have confirmed that D-D fusion can occur this way, as shown by the production of various fusion products: neutrons, helium-3, and tritium nuclei, for example.”

    I emailed Ball at the time, to clarify, and he replied that:

    “I don't know that Schenkel has yet made any measurements of helium-3 - I think the results for that branch currently still rely just on neutrons. But he has made measurements of tritium (plus protons, also produced on that branch), although these seem still somewhat preliminary.”

    (I received his permission to share his reply at the time.)

    • Official Post

    Mainstream article on LENR in Howstuffworks

    Is the Dream of Cold Fusion Still a Possibility?


    Cites Google and Hermes...

    From the article. Good to see some of Team Google still interested:

    "Several years ago, for example, Google funded a multi-year investigation of cold fusion that included researchers from several universities and Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory as well. The researchers ultimately published a 2019 Nature article in which they revealed that their efforts "have yet to yield any evidence of such an effect."

    "Nuclear fusion is a potential energy source that could provide a vast amount of power without harmful byproducts," Jeremy Munday, one of the participants in the Google research, explains in an email. He's a professor of electrical and computer engineering at the University of California, Davis. "For fusion to occur, the nuclei of atoms, which are positively charged, need to get close enough to fuse (join) together. If this happens, energy is released. The difficulty is that the positively charged nuclei repel each other. If there are a lot of nuclei close together — high density — and they have a lot of kinetic energy (high temperature), this reaction can happen. In nature, the sun is powered by fusion, but the temperatures and densities necessary to sustain those reactions are very difficult on Earth. Cold fusion is the idea that fusion could occur at much lower temperatures, making it feasible as an energy source on earth.

    "It's really hard to rule a phenomenon out, which is one of the reasons these concepts have been floating around for so long," Munday adds. "We didn't find any evidence of cold fusion, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist."

    "Scientists Stanley Pons (left) and Martin Fleischmann testify to their cold fusion breakthrough before the House Committee on Science, Space & Technology in 1989. Diana Walker/Getty Images

    To a layperson, it might seem as if investigating and re-investigating to find evidence of cold fusion would be a waste of time and resources. But scientists don't see it that way, because as they search, they gather other sorts of knowledge and pioneer technological innovations."

    "The spinoffs are perhaps one of the biggest impacts that our research in this area has had," Munday says. "Through the Google collaboration, we have collectively published more than 20 papers in high impact journals such as Nature, Nature Materials, Nature Catalysis, various American Chemical Society journals, etc. and have been granted two patents to-date. In addition to papers directly about lower energy fusion processes, we've had papers about the interesting materials physics and optical properties of metal-hydrides as well as their uses in sensors and for catalysts."

  • Recent Google Inc LENR Energy Technology Patents

    On February 7th 2019 two LENR technology patents assigned to Google Inc. became exposed/published. They were each filed on the same day a year and a half ago, August 3rd 2017. It’s hard to tell how long Google has had these inventors working on developing this LENR energy technology. At least a couple of years before the filing date of the patent, let’s say 2015 or earlier.

    Carl Page, the brother of the founder of Google, has been very active for many years at the LENR company Brillouin Energy, Berkeley CA, USA. Both an investor and active agent, he serves on the Technical Advisory Board and is supportive of their ongoing growth, during this important phase, as ‘Brillouin Energy prepares to enter the commercial marketplace’ (press release).

    Larry Page, as CEO of ‘Google’ is pursuing an alternate LENR energy technology pathway. The work is being done by a group out of Munday Labs at the University of Maryland. Last year Munday Labs received a lucrative DoD contract for two years of continued research. It makes sense that Google Inc. might develop the technology, through the commercial LENR reactor design phase, in partnership with a private industrial laboratory group in the semi conductor or nano technology industries or in the security of a DoD lab. Time and further investigation will eventually lead to answers for these questions.

    The Google LENR energy technology group comes as a surprise to many; which leads to speculation questioning how serious Google is in developing this technology. Yet the possibility of Google investing in the field was alluded to in a 2016 E-Cat World article:

    “Of course with his family ties to Google, one wonders how much his younger brother Larry might be paying attention to LENR now. The Alphabet company was formed to let Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin broaden their horizons and explore topics outside the traditional web/search field. Right now they have efforts going in areas such as longevity research, robotics, drone delivery, and capital investment. One wonders if they might see LENR as an important new area of innovation that should be explored.”

    Well it seems that Frank Ackland was correct. In fact Google Inc. was most likely working on developing these patents at the time of his article.

    I hope this compilation provides information and leads which will set many of these speculations and doubts to rest. The inventors are highly skilled and work in fields that are directly related to LENR research. Professor Munday attended an APS Meeting that held a seminar on cold fusion research. His labs’ research in palladium nanocrystals during hydrogen absorption and desorption, thin metallic films co-depositation, photonics, and plasmonics for energy to nanoscale forces provides experience for work developing SPAWAR/GEC type LENR systems. The Global Energy Corporationhea dquarters are nearby in Virginia. These two groups may know of each other... building on each others works. The Google Inc. Washington D.C. headquarters are close by. Many questions come to mind which will require further investigation, and time, to resolve. The following compilation, at the very least, provides a starting point.…gy-patents-gregory-goble/

  • Does anyone know of an article about Google LENR/Cold Fusion research that mentions these two patents?

    Do any of the Google researchers and CMNS Energy technology inventors named in the patents mention these patents in the interviews they have given or in the articles they have written?

    I've asked many these questions, searched and read all I could find...

    So far it's a big fat negative to both questions!


    I expect further iterations of these patents have been filed, will be exposed/published soon, and supportive papers published.


    The resources of Google Inc. Alphabet et al are tremendously enormous and far reaching. Product development... well partnered.

    By the by

    Munday labs moved to UC Davis after receiving the DoD contract.

    The contract traveled with them.

  • They need to submit a new installation based on cold nuclear fusion in the bowels of the earth, let them look at these topics, it is quite realistic I will do it, but there are no electric capacitors, but I try to find them...

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  • Gennadiy Tarassenko

    Yes Though I am sure they follow your works closely.

    I've thought that the Google research team uses the Optometrist Algorithm to develop useful CMNS (LENR) energy technology. These folk would be sure to gather everything they could find, every bit of data ever published, all theories and causes pondered.


    Officially revealed in 2017, the Optometrist Algorithm was named after the way eyeglass prescriptions are developed. Like an optometrist, the algorithm gives human operators a choice of two alternative experimental settings and associated outcomes, with the human choosing the one they believe better serves their needs, cutting down the time to find an optimum condition.

    Since its christening, Optometrist has grown in scope, Binderbauer said. "We expanded in doing parameter searches around those optimal conditions to find, perhaps, new regimes, and really study science. And that then develops the algorithm further, whereby we would basically create a reference case, and then a newly suggested case.”

    The company realized that, while humans were limited to changing one ‘knob’ at a time to be able to discern cause and effect, “when we started doing it with the computer, we could do perturbations of 60 knobs at a time, and then disentangle it - that's a huge improvement. But then we went further, and we said, let's compare the human by itself, computer by itself, and the combined human and computer.

    “To our delight, we saw that when you use both machine learning and the human to introduce an element of some creativity and intuition, then you can actually exponentiate even faster.”

    - end quotes

    Taken from....

    Do androids dream of fusion generators?

    The promise of unlimited electrical power from nuclear fusion is coming closer to reality - thanks to AI

    June 21, 2019 By Sebastian Moss

    Data Centre Dynamics Ltd (DCD)
    & DC Professional Development Limited (DCPRO)
    22 York Buildings, John Adam Street, London WC2N 6JU


  • Aquarius Energy Inc

    Menlo Park CA

    Close to Google Inc. Any connection?

    The Google Inc LENR patents are reviewed regularly.

    Recently it has been cited for the first time by another patent.

    I haven't heard of this group. On 1-21-21 I just turned 62

    Born in '58 I'm a double Aquarius, both sun and moon.

    Aquarius Energy, Inc.?

    Company Number C4259650
    Status - Active
    Incorporation Date 26 March 2019 (almost 2 years ago)
    Company Type FOREIGN STOCK
    Jurisdiction California (US)
    Branch of AQUARIUS ENERGY, INC. (Delaware (US))
    Registered Address 851 ROBLE AVE, APT 2
    MENLO PARK CA 94025 United States
    Agent Name
    Directors / Officers

    Recent filings for AQUARIUS ENERGY, INC.
    18 Jun 2020 SI-COMPLETE view
    12 Aug 2019 SI-COMPLETE view
    26 Mar 2019 REGISTRATION view

    Aquarius Energy Inc. LENR Patent

    Systems and Methods for Nuclear Fusion


    John F. DODARO

    Ralph A. Dalla Betta

    Ricardo B. LEVY

    2020-03-17 Application filed by Aquarius Energy, Inc.

    2020-09-24 Publication of WO2020190978A1


    The present disclosure provides methods and systems for generating heat from nuclear fusion. The methods and systems utilize host materials (such as metal nanoparticles) to host fusionable materials (such as deuterium). The host materials and/or fusionable materials are irradiated with electromagnetic radiation that induces phonon vibrations in the host material and/or fusionable materials. The phonon vibrations screen the Coulombic repulsion between fusionable material nuclei, thereby increasing a rate of nuclear fusion even at relatively low temperature and pressures. The methods and systems give rise to nuclear fusion reactions which produce energy or heat. The heat may be converted into useful energy using systems and methods for efficient heat dissipation and thermal management.

    [0039] One or more nuclear fusion reactions described herein may be referred to as “low-energy nuclear fusion reactions”. Such low-energy nuclear fusion reactions may occur between fusionable materials that move with relative velocities (for instance, as measured in the center- of-momentum frame) that are low in comparison to high-temperature nuclear fusion reactions that may require fusionable material to move with average relative velocities of at least about 106 meters per second (m/s) in order to achieve a nuclear fusion reaction. In comparison, the low- energy nuclear fusion reactions described herein may occur between fusionable materials that move with relative velocities of at most about

  • This group seems to be affiliated with Stanford U. From the links below they have a strong mix of applied physics background and tech startup management. The patent application is very broad and includes many claims already covered by prior art. For example, use of carbon nanotubes, phononic stimulation of fusion, and lattice-resonant THz EM radiation. Because it explicitly claims the production of "Low Energy Nuclear Fusion" it seems unlikely to be granted. But if they have something new that works and adds to the practical art of LENR, they can still do well despite what old-school VCs might want.…ation-defense-john-dodaro…/John-F-Dodaro-2116684275…/R-A-Dalla-Betta-74164676

  • magicsound

    I wonder if this patent is related to the Google LENR patents which have been granted.

    Do any of these folks know any of the Google cold fusion research team members?

    Perhaps you could do a comparative analysis of the patents seeking unique commonalities.

    I am doing permutations of name combinations .seeking common ground.

    Thanks for the links. Yes, skills and experience they have... Why do they cite only the Google patents? How did they learn of them before they were published?

  • Gregory Byron Goble The Silicon Valley tech community is as thoroughly "networked" as anywhere in the world, so I would be surprised if Ricardo Levy wasn't well known to some group at Google. Their initial funding of $775K had to come from somewhere, but it's spare change to Google. And whether there is any deeper connection between the Aquarious Energy patent application and Google's prior work is impossible to know without inside information.

  • Networked... YES

    The plans to go to Mars? I am sure Space X eyes are on both the Google LENR group and the Global Energy Corporation/NASA Space Act Agreement. I am fairly certain Aquarius is in this same loop. Nice to hear Larry and Musk are chums. They talk 'cold fusion' I am sure.

    By Ricardo B Levy of LENR tech start-up Aquarius Energy - 2018

    MUST WE BE MUSK-ESQUE TO SUCCEED IN BREAKOUT ENTERPRISES? An entrepreneur’s reflections on Elon Musk’s creativity, capability and character

    FEBRUARY 19, 2018

    gbgoblenote- ...found at the end of the post by Mr. Levy.


    One of the other elements we should emulate are well-summarized at the end of Vance’s book:

    Page [Larry Page, the founder of Google and a friend of Musk]

    holds Musk up as a model he wishes others would emulate — a figure that should be replicated during a time in which the businessmen and politicians have fixated on short-term, inconsequential goals. “I don’t think we’re doing a good job as a society deciding what things are really important to do,” Page said. “I think like we’re just not educating people in this kind of general way. You should have a pretty broad engineering and scientific background. You should have some leadership training and a bit of MBA training or knowledge of how to run things, organize stuff, and raise money. I don’t think most people are doing that, and it’s a big problem. Engineers are usually trained in a very fixed area. When you’re able to think about all of these disciplines together, you kind of think differently and can dream of much crazier things and how they might work. I think that’s really an important thing for the world. That’s how we make progress.”(8)

  • For anyone coming up to speed on this topic, there was a Nature commentary in May 2019 that said that the results of the Google collaboration "have been published across 12 papers over the past 2 years: 9 in peer-reviewed journals and 3 on the arXiv preprint server."

    I attempted to track down those papers by following links here and elsewhere (many thanks to Ahlfors and others). I don't think I found all 12 of the ones mentioned above, and there might be others in addition below that were not available at the time of the Nature commentary:

    I think there was a study that was mentioned that sought tritium and didn't find it, perhaps with Thomas Schenkel as an author, but I didn't manage to track it down. Thomas Schenkel is at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and is one of the four (?) Google-funded principal investigators who have assembled teams. The other three principal investigators are Curtis Berlinguette, at the University of British Columbia, Yet-Ming Chiang, at MIT, and someone at the University of Maryland, perhaps Jeremy Munday. So many of the papers have one of these people as coauthors. In addition, it seems that Matthew Trevithick, David Fork, and Ross Koningstein, all at Google, are mentioned in connection with the Google project as well.

    • Official Post

    Might want to go through this thread: Team Google wants your opinion: "What is the highest priority experiment the LENR community wants to see conducted?" Plenty of good info in there.

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