SAFIRE's Scorchin' Hot Catalytic Recipes Found In Plain Sight!

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"We need to build a new way of getting the anode off of the terminal without using heat as this may destroy any potential magnetic moment the anode adopts as a result of the spinning plasma anode tufts."

It might be the case that the direct interaction of high density hydrogen with the metal while diffusing through and interacting with the high electron density and other present elements is important (in this case iron or tungsten). Way higher interfacing due to hydrogen and metal and electron densities than other similar hydrogen loading experiment. Similar with the silver electrode Suncell, I think some sort of sacrificial/molten electrode that gets recycled cleaned as it gets pushed in and drained out of the reactor chamber is a workable engineering solution. The transmutation products or whatever the exothermic reaction results maybe can be removed in situ. Assuming that this metal/hydrogen interaction is key.

Alan Smith

The "How to build" section ("4. Schema for Creating BL in a Modestly Equipped Laboratory") in that paper is rather vague and confusing; a diagram or two would have been helpful in understanding what the author had in mind there. Anyhow, he envisions in a second example the usage of heavy-duty pulse capacitors (detailed specifications not provided) to produce powerful spark discharges for simulating a lightning bolt.

So true, what you said Shane D.

We should start a special thread on this essential subject, right?

For example, I salute the excellent work from MFMP however at the same time, it has been limited by what we have said before, i guess.

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In this case, it may be money talking. They had some serious investors lined up a few months ago, and this may be an indication they made a deal with one. No secrecy = no IP protection = no money. That is just the way it is.

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In this case, it may be money talking. They had some serious investors lined up a few months ago, and this may be an indication they made a deal with one. No secrecy = no IP protection = no money. That is just the way it is.

Indeed. I was lucky enough to watch the video in question before it was taken down and bearing in mind Monty showed a heap of the inner workings and mechanics of the SAFIRE project, and the fact that most of their patents are to do with mechanical aspects of the project, rather than the production of energy or transmutation, it is not really surprising to me that it disappeared once they started talking about commercialisation.

Monty discussed in some detail the gasses used and showed the control panels in detail and described quite a bit about what was what. They had tanks of liquid Nitrogen, air, Helium, a tank he originally said was Argon but then said was air (unsure if this was meant to be a secret, as Argon is clearly shown in several places later on), Deuterium, high pressure Hydrogen, low pressure Hydrogen, and "more Hydrogen". Monty only discussed Helium being used in cryogenic pumps and also for leak detection (but see below). They de-ionise water and use for heat exchange and as "an electrical insulator". Nitrogen is apparently introduced to diffuse the hydrogen gas below explosive levels (and in the event of something going wrong will flood into the chamber to dampen reactions).

Here's where it gets interesting - the gas and vacuum control centre panel in 'SAFCON' had 3 main sections to do with the gasses;

1) Left - for gimbals and the antechamber, labels and switches for Air, N, He, H2, Ar

2) Centre - for anode, labels and switches just for H2, D

3) Right - for the chamber itself, labels and switches for Ar, H2, He, N, Air, O2

Other interesting things mentioned - LOTS of UV light is produced. A mass flow controller is discussed - it can apparently be used to allow very specific combinations of gasses to be used. The computer screen had (digital) labels for Argon, Hydrogen, Helium, Nitrogen, Air, Oxygen and various mixtures thereof. At the end the list of things the lab is capable of included *gravity shielding* of matter within double layers, *chemistry as a catalyst* to double layer formation, and sequestering of heavy elements to the core.

And perhaps the most interesting - when talking about the panel in SAFCON, Monty mentioned that hydrogen and/or deuterium is apparently introduced into the CORE of the anode, where it can diffuse and do funky stuff.

So perhaps there are two sites for transmutation; in the atmospheric Hydrogen/Helium/Nitrogen/Oxygen/Argon in the double-layers is forming the Lithium/Carbon/Sodium/Magnesium/Aluminium/Silicon/Phosphorus/Sulphur/Chlorine/Potassium/Calcium/Titanium/Manganese/Zinc, and then the heavy Tin/Barium/Lanthanum/Cerium and 4+ unnamed (presumably very valuable/toxic/radioactive) elements are forming at the surface of the porous metallic anode.

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Indeed. I was lucky enough to watch the video in question before it was taken down and bearing in mind Monty showed a heap of the inner workings and mechanics of the SAFIRE project, and the fact that most of their patents are to do with mechanical aspects of the project, rather than the production of energy or transmutation, it is not really surprising to me that it disappeared once they started talking about commercialisation.

Monty discussed in some detail the gasses used and showed the control panels in detail and described quite a bit about what was what. They had tanks of liquid Nitrogen, air, Helium, a tank he originally said was Argon but then said was air (unsure if this was meant to be a secret, as Argon is clearly shown in several places later on), Deuterium, high pressure Hydrogen, low pressure Hydrogen, and "more Hydrogen". Monty only discussed Helium being used in cryogenic pumps and also for leak detection (but see below). They de-ionise water and use for heat exchange and as "an electrical insulator". Nitrogen is apparently introduced to diffuse the hydrogen gas below explosive levels (and in the event of something going wrong will flood into the chamber to dampen reactions).

Here's where it gets interesting - the gas and vacuum control centre panel in 'SAFCON' had 3 main sections to do with the gasses;

1) Left - for gimbals and the antechamber, labels and switches for Air, N, He, H2, Ar

2) Centre - for anode, labels and switches just for H2, D

3) Right - for the chamber itself, labels and switches for Ar, H2, He, N, Air, O2

Other interesting things mentioned - LOTS of UV light is produced. A mass flow controller is discussed - it can apparently be used to allow very specific combinations of gasses to be used. The computer screen had (digital) labels for Argon, Hydrogen, Helium, Nitrogen, Air, Oxygen and various mixtures thereof. At the end the list of things the lab is capable of included *gravity shielding* of matter within double layers, *chemistry as a catalyst* to double layer formation, and sequestering of heavy elements to the core.

And perhaps the most interesting - when talking about the panel in SAFCON, Monty mentioned that hydrogen and/or deuterium is apparently introduced into the CORE of the anode, where it can diffuse and do funky stuff.

So perhaps there are two sites for transmutation; in the atmospheric Hydrogen/Helium/Nitrogen/Oxygen/Argon in the double-layers is forming the Lithium/Carbon/Sodium/Magnesium/Aluminium/Silicon/Phosphorus/Sulphur/Chlorine/Potassium/Calcium/Titanium/Manganese/Zinc, and then the heavy Tin/Barium/Lanthanum/Cerium and 4+ unnamed (presumably very valuable/toxic/radioactive) elements are forming at the surface of the porous metallic anode.

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Is it possible the gravity shielding effects would be high tempurature superconductor related? As in some of the elements formed are high tempurature supper conductor compounds, idk how that would change apparent weight.

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Is it possible the gravity shielding effects would be high tempurature superconductor related? As in some of the elements formed are high tempurature supper conductor compounds, idk how that would change apparent weight.

Hmm, not sure about that.

There are a few theories of gravity that have it based on either EM and/or the movement of photons (real photons, not made up consensus photons that have no dimensions). Plasma double layers are basically nature's capacitors, so theoretically it could be possible to have a plasma double layer that would (at least for a while) not allow any EM or photons to travel through it. Ergo in these theories of gravity anything on one side of the double layer would not feel gravity effects from anything on the other side. If both of these (sets of) theories are true then it should be possible to create an anti-gravity device using plasma double layers. Possibly maybe.

temporally relativistic electrons + magnetic field as well as you don't violate newton's postulate.

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The possibility of gravity shielding was mentioned by Safire some time ago- and then edited out of a video. They don't wan't to talk about it any more, which is in itself information of a kind.

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Hmm, not sure about that.

There are a few theories of gravity that have it based on either EM and/or the movement of photons (real photons, not made up consensus photons that have no dimensions). Plasma double layers are basically nature's capacitors, so theoretically it could be possible to have a plasma double layer that would (at least for a while) not allow any EM or photons to travel through it. Ergo in these theories of gravity anything on one side of the double layer would not feel gravity effects from anything on the other side. If both of these (sets of) theories are true then it should be possible to create an anti-gravity device using plasma double layers. Possibly maybe.

If gravity/inertia is an emergent electromagnetic effect.

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Indeed. I was lucky enough to watch the video in question before it was taken down and bearing in mind Monty showed a heap of the inner workings and mechanics of the SAFIRE project, and the fact that most of their patents are to do with mechanical aspects of the project, rather than the production of energy or transmutation, it is not really surprising to me that it disappeared once they started talking about commercialisation.

Monty discussed in some detail the gasses used and showed the control panels in detail and described quite a bit about what was what. They had tanks of liquid Nitrogen, air, Helium, a tank he originally said was Argon but then said was air (unsure if this was meant to be a secret, as Argon is clearly shown in several places later on), Deuterium, high pressure Hydrogen, low pressure Hydrogen, and "more Hydrogen". Monty only discussed Helium being used in cryogenic pumps and also for leak detection (but see below). They de-ionise water and use for heat exchange and as "an electrical insulator". Nitrogen is apparently introduced to diffuse the hydrogen gas below explosive levels (and in the event of something going wrong will flood into the chamber to dampen reactions).

Here's where it gets interesting - the gas and vacuum control centre panel in 'SAFCON' had 3 main sections to do with the gasses;

1) Left - for gimbals and the antechamber, labels and switches for Air, N, He, H2, Ar

2) Centre - for anode, labels and switches just for H2, D

3) Right - for the chamber itself, labels and switches for Ar, H2, He, N, Air, O2

Other interesting things mentioned - LOTS of UV light is produced. A mass flow controller is discussed - it can apparently be used to allow very specific combinations of gasses to be used. The computer screen had (digital) labels for Argon, Hydrogen, Helium, Nitrogen, Air, Oxygen and various mixtures thereof. At the end the list of things the lab is capable of included *gravity shielding* of matter within double layers, *chemistry as a catalyst* to double layer formation, and sequestering of heavy elements to the core.

And perhaps the most interesting - when talking about the panel in SAFCON, Monty mentioned that hydrogen and/or deuterium is apparently introduced into the CORE of the anode, where it can diffuse and do funky stuff.

So perhaps there are two sites for transmutation; in the atmospheric Hydrogen/Helium/Nitrogen/Oxygen/Argon in the double-layers is forming the Lithium/Carbon/Sodium/Magnesium/Aluminium/Silicon/Phosphorus/Sulphur/Chlorine/Potassium/Calcium/Titanium/Manganese/Zinc, and then the heavy Tin/Barium/Lanthanum/Cerium and 4+ unnamed (presumably very valuable/toxic/radioactive) elements are forming at the surface of the porous metallic anode.

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Any mention of water vapor? Was thinking that small amounts of air would combust a trace portion of hydrogen into water which may well be a factor in the multi atom plasma interactions. Would give credence to BLP as well, two overlapping successful examples is superior to one.

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Hmm, not sure about that.

There are a few theories of gravity that have it based on either EM and/or the movement of photons (real photons, not made up consensus photons that have no dimensions). Plasma double layers are basically nature's capacitors, so theoretically it could be possible to have a plasma double layer that would (at least for a while) not allow any EM or photons to travel through it. Ergo in these theories of gravity anything on one side of the double layer would not feel gravity effects from anything on the other side. If both of these (sets of) theories are true then it should be possible to create an anti-gravity device using plasma double layers. Possibly maybe.

That could aid in the formation of a double layer, atomic compounds that are more magnetic/conductive than normal in the plasma.

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Any mention of water vapor? Was thinking that small amounts of air would combust a trace portion of hydrogen into water which may well be a factor in the multi atom plasma interactions. Would give credence to BLP as well, two overlapping successful examples is superior to one.

I don't remember any mention of water vapour. On a different but possibly related subject - I have done some experimentation with Rhodes Gas/Browns Gas/Hydroxy/HHO and have friends who've done a lot more than I, and especially if you have a large multi-plate generator that uses pulsed power to create the HHO you tend to get a lot of residue build up in the bottom of the tank. I know of two people who have had this residue tested and both claim that the analysis showed trace amounts of most elements including Uranium and Gold, not dissimilar to seawater (see e.g. http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/oc…ng2011/trace_elements.pdf). It would not surprise me if the transmutation process there was similar, in which case it may be possible that SAFIRE, with a bit of tuning, could potentially make a lot more elements - potentially all the stable ones.