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sounds painful,, serviced? Viagra?..on the house.?

Revelations 17.3-6

https://ca.thegospelcoalition.…n-and-why-does-it-matter/

This revolutionary new drug might stop infected people from spreading COVID-19

https://news.google.com/articl…=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Known as MK-4482, EIDD-2801, or Molnupiravir, the antiviral “completely suppresses virus transmission within 24 hours,” according to researchers from the Institute for Biomedical Sciences at Georgia State.

“This is the first demonstration of an orally available drug to rapidly block SARS-CoV-2 transmission,” GSU Professor Dr. Richard Plemper said in a statement. “MK-4482/EIDD-2801 could be game-changing.” The study was published in Nature Microbiology.

Mystery illness lands over 300 people in the hospital in southern India

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/i…ilepsy-like-symptoms/#app

The patients reported symptoms similar to those associated with epilepsy, including headaches, nausea, vomiting and seizures. The number of patients rose sharply throughout Sunday. By Monday morning 315 people were in a local hospital. More than 150 patients were released after treatment, but that left about half of those who were admitted with the unexplained illness still in Eluru's hospital.

ivermectin and the I-MASK+ protocol

BBC once the most reliable news channel on the planet now changed sides and fully supports the pharma mafia.

Today 1 o'clock news BBC interviewed a doctor that also had to answer questions from the public.

The Lady in brown blouse - named a doctor - most like a pharma sponsored PR scrubber said the following:

Public: Must people that had CoV-19 be vaccinated too: Yes.

My statement: This might end deadly in the worst case due to unknown cross reactions. This ism just maximizing the profits!

Public: Does the vaccine interfere with existing medication? We know that vaccine normally do not interfere...

My statement: For the vaccine UK wants to use starting next week this is blatant lie and just an unfunded statement. This is a complete new type of vaccine. We have absolute no = 0 experience with an RNA vaccine and know nothing about its potential long time damages under certain medications as this was not tested!!

Stop trusting BBC!

COVID-19 outbreak at mink farm in Canada infects eight people

https://news.google.com/articl…=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Eight people have been infected by a COVID-19 outbreak on a mink farm in Canada, health officials said.

The cluster was detected at the farm in Fraser Valley, east of Vancouver, Canadian outlet CBC reported.

The infected farm operators and staffers are self-isolating along with their close contacts, according to the Fraser Health Authority.

Quote from Alan Smith

The report outlines the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on research and how this has influenced researchers' data sharing behaviour.

So, the pandemic has promoted open science and data sharing. That's good. It has also spurred the use of telecommuting and improved things like Zoom conferences. Wider use of telecommuting is long overdue. It should have been implemented decades ago, to reduce traffic and commuting time. Not all telecommuting is good. Online primary education is detrimental and I hope it will be abandoned as soon as the pandemic subsides.

The pandemic has also spurred tremendous improvements in vaccine research, and vaccine production. The government has poured billions of dollars into this. There has been a lot of duplication of efforts and probably a lot of waste, but overall I am confident it was worth it. Not only will it save lives now, but it will pay off in the future, as other vaccines are developed.

What this illustrates is that worldwide catastrophes often produce beneficial side effects. Even World War II produced some benefits, especially in technology. Such as radar, computers and the rapid development of antibiotics. It was mostly senseless destruction, but it did produce some benefits. The bubonic plagues in Europe, starting in 1347, killed a huge fraction of the population and caused unimaginable suffering, yet even those plagues had some beneficial side effects. They enhanced the political and economic power of the peasantry. The survivors inherited a great deal of wealth.

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Mystery illness lands over 300 people in the hospital in southern India

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/i…ilepsy-like-symptoms/#app

The patients reported symptoms similar to those associated with epilepsy, including headaches, nausea, vomiting and seizures. The number of patients rose sharply throughout Sunday. By Monday morning 315 people were in a local hospital. More than 150 patients were released after treatment, but that left about half of those who were admitted with the unexplained illness still in Eluru's hospital.

Did they receive an injection of RNA vaccine? The multinational PFIZER and also the start-Up Mode-RNA (renamed "Moderna") are pushing for approval of their experimental vaccines based on messenger RNA included in liposomes. By entering human cells, these strands of viral genetic material will induce the production of viral proteins which will be immediately recognized as foreign by the human immune system. Problem: as soon as the "transfected" human cells start producing the proteins of the virus, these cells will become the target of our immune system, and particularly NK killer cells and T lymphocytes. Clearly, this risks causing a Potentially dramatic "autoimmune disease". (Guillain-Barré type encephalitis, for example, which give symptoms like the india peoples of Eluru). These vaccines have never been tested on humans and it is irresponsible to try them on a large scale on the population. Personally, I formally advise against injecting PFIZER and MODERNA messenger RNA vaccines.

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Did they receive an injection of RNA vaccine? The multinational PFIZER and also the start-Up Mode-RNA (renamed "Moderna") are pushing for approval of their experimental vaccines based on messenger RNA included in liposomes. By entering human cells, these strands of viral genetic material will induce the production of viral proteins which will be immediately recognized as foreign by the human immune system. Problem: as soon as the "transfected" human cells start producing the proteins of the virus, these cells will become the target of our immune system, and particularly NK killer cells and T lymphocytes. Clearly, this risks causing a Potentially dramatic "autoimmune disease". (Guillain-Barré type encephalitis, for example, which give symptoms like the india peoples of Eluru). These vaccines have never been tested on humans and it is irresponsible to try them on a large scale on the population. Personally, I formally advise against injecting PFIZER and MODERNA messenger RNA vaccines.

Eluru? Is there any relationship with vaccination?

Study finds specific proteins inhibit or enhance virus that causes COVID-19

https://news.google.com/articl…=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

A new study in human and mouse cell lines shows that specific proteins that have long been studied as inhibitors of influenza can also inhibit SARS-CoV-2, the type of coronavirus that causes COVID-19.

Our new findings are potentially quite important because there are people who have mutations in the IFITM3 gene, possibly making them more susceptible not only to influenza but also SARS-CoV-2," said co-author Jacob Yount, an associate professor of Microbial Infection and Immunity and co-director of the Viruses and Emerging Pathogens Program at Ohio State's Infectious Disease Institute. "We also made a somewhat surprising finding that, under certain circumstances, the virus can actually hijack IFITM3 for its own benefit to enhance entry into cells, which is very different from the flu. The full importance of this unusual ability of SARS-CoV-2 is unclear and will need more research."

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I have vowed to stay out of this thread due to it delving too often in matters completely outside the bounds of the viral agent and the disease it causes.

However the matter of official COVID-19 figures has mattered to me as they are used to justify every side of the public debate about the measures being taken by politicians and thus, the possibility and temptation to manipulate the official figures by changing the methodology of counting exists, and in my country, and I’m sure everywhere else, has been a matter of great controversy.

The information that Fm1 just shared IMHO confirms a widely held point of view that everything coming from China through state sanctioned and controlled media is, simply put, CCP propaganda, and can’t be construed as credible and, worse, needs to be interpreted as what the CCP wants the world to know.

What Alan Smith tells, confirms that the official figures presented by the UK are subject to changes that one Can at least allow oneself to think that have a political intention, if anything.

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Just a note on this. It is true that case figures on CV are very flakey in China and the US. And elsewhere.

It is also true that China is constitutionally unable to deliver good figures for something like this because of a longstanding policy of ignoring and/or punishing those who deliver bad news. That means local and national officials at all levels will be inclined to cover things up.

In the US things are a bit different - there is strong political pressure both locally and nationally to deny the existence, or severity, of the virus, from the Republicans, the Trumpite version of which seems also to distrust science and hence to be happy denying it.

There equally strong pressure to overdo the efefct of CV from the democrat side. the difference is the Democrats generally trust science and scientists, and do not have a strong tendency to lie about it. (Of course, if you truly believe all scientists are, like politicians, just giving opinion, then departing from what science knows may not seem like lying, just like choosing a better opinion).

I'll make an apolitical political point. A site like this that is interested in science should be as appalled as I am by the Trump tendency to deny clearly known science fact. Politicians always twist and color things. Democracies are protected from this by having a bedrock of reasonably accurate truth delivered via journalism and science. The public debate in the US is fast losing that. it is a tragedy, whether you are left-wing or right-wing. And (again apolitical) the political circumstances that understandably lead 85% of the Republican party to go along with this wholesale truth denial are very very bad for the future of US democracy.

Anyway I want to point out that in spite of this most of the large inaccuracy in the case figures everywhere si not political, but due to the inherent inaccuracy of case counts - and that has been true for every new pandemic.

At the start testing is limited, and without widespread testing you miss 90% or more of cases.

Even after the start the people who are actually tested will be a frcation of those who catch the disease for one like this where symptoms of mild disease are indictinguisahable formsymptoms you have with no disease.

Take the UK. Our initial peak wildly underestimated the real case count - we did not have random sample testing then so cannot know by how much except looking at deaths or hospital admissions.

Currently we have good testing, and critically we have high quality random sample population testing throughout the whole country. The random sample testing shows the true rate, the case rate is then about 20% of that (quite difficult to calculate because it depends on how many days an infected person stays test-positive):

Current:

UK case rate (around 25 Nov) 15000/day

random sample positive rate:

22-28 Nov 1 / 105

UK people: 70,000,000

So from case count we get approx .22 / thousand / day

Suppose test positivity for 10 days (?) that translates to 2.2 /thousand from case rate versus 9 / thousand from random sample testing. These figures I'm afraid still not quite right because the random sample testing was community-based, whereas many of the cases occur in hospitals etc.

The only change in death rate stats I remember was to count as CV only deaths within 28 days of a positive test. That was badly needed at the time in order for the death rate to be meaningful.

We were coming out of a high peak and getting about 50% or more of our death rate from those who had caught the virus in the peak. It made looking at the death rate a very poor estimate of the infection rate (3 weeks previously) because of the very large number of positive cases 7 or 8 weeks previously and people dying randomly after a test.

Overall that did not much affect the stats (maybe + 20%) but the temporal affect was larger and the change much needed for death rate to be meaningful.

THH

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I read about the experience of a shop worker here in Sweden who complained that the people with mask was all over them being way to close and those without mask kept a decent distance. This illustrate the main points against general mask mandates. We should be fine with distancing alone as a measure to calm the spread. But people do not follow the recommendations, go to private parties, dinners and other events. My experience is really that people who are cautious and distance themselves also do not catch covid.

I think anecdotes make poor science here.

there is some comparative info from the US - looking at states where individual counties had differing mask mandate policies, that mask mandates reduced R value by up to 50% but that data can be contaminated of course: those areas likley politically to mandate masks will also be likely to take social distancing more seriously.

Nevertheless on balance the science seems quite heavily on the side of masks help. The behavioural science is unclear because you can argue it your way, or that the act of putting on and wearing a mask, and seeing other masks reminds people of the virus.

Another factor is about compliance. Above all we need everyone to see that complying with social distancing measures is normal - what others do. Going out and seeing 90% of population masked up sends that message.

The behavioural science matters here as much as the medical science - though both matter!

Studies show IgA antibodies dominate early response to SARS-CoV-2 virus

https://www.news-medical.net/a…-to-SARS-CoV-2-virus.aspx

A new study of more than 150 COVID-19 patients shows that IgA antibodies dominate the early response to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, coming on more quickly and strongly than IgG and IgM antibodies. This is a somewhat unexpected result, as IgM antibodies are usually the immune system's first responders.

The finding may also inform the development of vaccines that encourage the IgA response, as well as IgA-based tests to detect infection at early stages, Delphine Sterlin and colleagues say. The researchers measured antibody responses in blood, saliva, and fluid from a broncho-alveolar wash in the patients, whose disease symptoms ranged in severity.

Vitamin D deficiency may predict a poorer outcome of IgA nephropathy

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5094030/

Ex-Pfizer Exec Demands EU Halt COVID-19 Vaccine Studies; Claims Vaccine Could Possibly Sterilize Women

https://thejewishvoice.com/202…possibly-sterilize-women/

Former Pfizer vice president and scientific director Dr. Michael Yeadon and German lung specialist and parliamentarian Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg have filed an urgent application with the European Medicine Agency calling for the immediate suspension of all SARS-CoV-2 vaccine studies – particularly the BioNtech/Pfizer study

Quote from Alan Smith

This recent video shot in Shibuya (Tokyo) shows just how compliant people can be.

It looks about the same as our neighborhood in Atlanta, which voted mainly Democratic. The local leaders mandated masks in July in stores and public spaces. Most people here wear masks even where they are not mandated.

The political divisions are sharp. In the GOP neighborhoods many people do not wear masks. In the rallies in favor of Trump, no one wears one. It is a mark of party allegiance. There was a big legal fight with Gov. Nitwit and other GOP leaders trying to make it illegal for Atlanta and other cities to mandate masks, but the local pols ignored the lawsuits and threats. It is astounding that the governor and others are fighting to prevent mandates, but that is what their base demands.

You can tell which neighborhood majority voted for which party because the vote totals have been published sorted by zip code. You can also judge by the political signs on people's lawns. They are still up, because we have a run-off election in January. The people across the street from me are all in for the GOP. They are nice people with cute kids, but they are playing with fire. On Thanksgiving they invited around 15 people and they all came out for a group photo in front of the house, without any masks or social distancing. They don't seem to realize your relative can infect you as easily as anyone else.

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Ex-Pfizer Exec Demands EU Halt COVID-19 Vaccine Studies; Claims Vaccine Could Possibly Sterilize Women

Here the relevant citation:

The formation of so-called “non-neutralizing antibodies” can lead to an exaggerated immune reaction, especially when the test person is confronted with the real, “wild” virus after vaccination. This so-called antibody-dependent amplification, ADE, has long been known from experiments with corona vaccines in cats, for example. In the course of these studies all cats that initially tolerated the vaccination well died after catching the wild virus.