https://lenbilen.com/2020/12/1…ine-to-covid-19-patients/
The American Medical Association has rescinded it's recommendation against Physicians prescribing HCQ for COVID, because " its potential for good currently may supersede the threat of any potential harmful side effects".
Hard to find any mainstream news about this, so sorry about the source. The move does provide fuel to the fire that their initial stance was politically motivated.
Hard to find any mainstream news about this, so sorry about the source.
The A.M.A. is as mainstream as you can get!
The move does provide fuel to the fire that their initial stance was politically motivated.
There is no reason to think it was political. The initial stance was probably based on what they considered the best evidence available at the time. Scientists are supposed to change their minds when new evidence becomes available. It could be that HCQ is beneficial in some circumstances, for some patients, and some stages in the disease, but not at others. That would difficult to tease that out of the data. It would be easy to mistake that situation for one in which HCQ does no good. Furthermore, it is known to cause harm in some cases. So, all in all, it is reasonable that the A.M.A. did not recommend it before, but now they do. If what I describe is the situation, it is not political at all.
The A.M.A. is a right wing organization politically. They were opposed to Obamacare, and they opposes any further reform. But I do not think they are so right wing they would let politics cloud their judgement of a drug. In any case, this particular drug has many right-wing supporters, such as Trump, so if anything you would expect the A.M.A. to be biased in favor of it.
The A.M.A. is a right wing organization politically. They were opposed to Obamacare, and they opposes any further reform. But I do not think they are so right wing they would let politics cloud their judgement of a drug. In any case, this particular drug has many right-wing supporters, such as Trump, so if anything you would expect the A.M.A. to be biased in favor of it
I think you have that backwards. The AMA leans left...if not far left, and they supported Obamacare. The reason they did was because Obamacare benefited primary care doctors, over the specialists who drive most of the high health care costs. The AMA mostly represents primary care doctors, so therefore supported Obamacare. It was good for their members.
Specialists (who have their own colleges) were very much against it because the intent was to take money out of their pockets, and distribute it to lesser trained doctors, and feed a massive government bureaucracy. So which side of the issue each group was on, had more to do with money, greed, and envy than politics.
As we know now, Obamacare did not go as planned. Specialists took a big hit the first few years, but after that their salaries actually went up. Primary care docs are enjoying higher salaries now also. Health care premiums overall did not go down as promised, but went up.
This HCQ/COVID thing though; IMO that was mostly a political policy decision on the AMA's part. HCQ has 65 years of science behind it, and only politics could explain them ignoring that.
I think you have that backwards. The AMA leans left...i
Most histories and commentators say it is conservative. See, for example:
https://www.healthaffairs.org/…blog20150910.050461/full/
This HCQ/COVID thing though; IMO that was mostly a political policy decision on the AMA's part. HCQ has 65 years of science behind it, and only politics could explain them ignoring that.
It does not have 65 years of treatment for COVID-19. Nothing does. Saying it has a long history is a little like saying that insulin or aspirin have decades of science behind them, so we can be sure they are effective against COVID-19.
It is a fact that HCQ has some risks.
HCQ was extensively tested early in the pandemic. It was not rejected out of hand. Some critics say too much attention was paid to it, and too many tests conducted, which crowded out other candidates, since you cannot use multiple drugs in a test of efficacy.
As we know now, Obamacare did not go as planned. Specialists took a big hit the first few years, but after that their salaries actually went up. Primary care docs are enjoying higher salaries now also. Health care premiums overall did not go down as promised, but went up.
Obamacare was never intended to limit physician pay. It was intended to make healthcare more widely available, and to reduce overall costs (including hospital profits and so on). It succeeded in both of these goals. The uninsured population fell from 15% to 8%. Obamacare saved the U.S. $2.3 trillion as of March 2019. See:
But I do not think they are so right wing they would let politics cloud their judgement of a drug. In any case
Not politics.. just normal ' conservative' assertive ignorance
Antibody drugs used to treat Trump, others could cut Covid-19 hospitalizations by half, but they're not being used by the general public
https://news.google.com/articl…=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
When President Donald Trump got sick with Covid-19 in October, he credited an antibody drug from Regeneron with making him feel better "immediately."
"I felt as good three days ago as I do now," he said in a video shot in front of the White House after he left Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, promising medicines from Regeneron and Eli Lilly would soon be available to the American public to help stop the terrible effects of Covid-19.
Most histories and commentators say it is conservative. See, for example:
That article does not talk about the AMA's political leanings. It basically tells me nothing other than doctors are greedy...to which I agree. But most people are, so where does that get us?
I have been married to medicine for 30 years, and know the story from the inside. The AMA generally leans left because large government programs tend to benefit them. Specialists have their own colleges, and lean right because the free market better rewards them.
Politics-Business versus Covid 19. Place - Germany.
If you go shopping a mask is obligatory as well as the distance - absolutely correct.
But, now also you have, really HAVE, to take a shopping cart, without it no entrance.
I see this as one way of Covid 19 spreading and as an idiotic Politics-Business decision. Why ?
Because even if there is info from Bundesregierung (Federal Government) that shops should clean the shopping cart every time you take it, in reality I did see by myself that this is not a true completely or occurs occasionally and not properly.
Why shops are doing this obligatory shopping cart is clear - they use shopping cart to limit number of people inside the shop. This is the easiest and cheap way for them to calculate and limit people inside. But, also one clear way to spread Covid 19 trough the dirty shopping cart.
Obamacare was never intended to limit physician pay.
Oh yes it was. The seed idea originated way back before Obama. Europe enjoyed less expensive health care, and many Americans wanted what the Europeans had. A study determined the difference was largely because their doctors made far less than US docs, plus they did far fewer "procedures" (surgeries,tests, or basically anything invasive).
From there, a plan was developed to reduce reimbursements to physicians/hospitals by prioritizing preventive care, and implementing policies to wean Americans off their costly dependence on specialists. End result should have been lower health care premiums, and lower Medicare costs.
I attended a special workshop with the wife where a consultant hired by the hospital made it very clear: "ACA (Obamacare) is designed to take most of the cost savings out of your salary!". It worked at first, as most docs took big paycuts, and many were fired/furloughed, while the general practice docs started seeing greater income.
The American Medical Association has rescinded it's recommendation against Physicians prescribing HCQ for COVID, because " its potential for good currently may supersede the threat of any potential harmful side effects".
HCQ+xy is OK in very early day 1-3 treatment. But Ivermectin is far safer with no side effects less costs and much higher benefit. Looks like a show and hide game to me.
Because even if there is info from Bundesregierung (Federal Government) that shops should clean the shopping cart every time you take it, in reality I did see by myself that this is not a true completely or occurs occasionally and not properly.
With the today's infection rate of Germany/Switzerland/Netherlands etc. it's almost criminal to use only simple surgical masks when you go in a shop. FP98 at least should be used. Cleaning your hands is pretty useless as the virus is almost not infectious unless you bore you fingers deep into the nose. Infections 99.99% run over aerosols.
Europe enjoyed less expensive health care, and many Americans wanted what the Europeans had. A study determined the difference was largely because their doctors made far less than US docs, plus they did far fewer "procedures" (surgeries,tests, or basically anything invasive).
My family had the same GP for around 30 years, and very good he was too. He retired when I was a young teenager around 20 years after we got free healthcare (1945). Before we had free healthcare it was 'pay per view' and he did his visits on an old bicycle. After we had free healthcare he could afford a very nice car. But at the same time life expectancy in the UK started increasing. It is only in the last 10 years when we have seen a reduction in social care and an increase in poverty that life expectancy has started to fall again. And btw, many of the 'procedures' you mention aren't necessary - the skill lies in knowing which ones are..
The many strange long-term symptoms of Covid-19, explained
https://news.google.com/articl…=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
Almost a year into the pandemic, there have not yet been thorough, large-scale studies to determine the true prevalence of long Covid. But preliminary research suggests that somewhere between 10 percent and 88 percent of Covid-19 patients will experience at least one symptom for many weeks or months. Some of these can be life-altering; one study found that 50 percent of non-ICU patients reported a significant change to their cognitive functioning.
With the today's infection rate of Germany/Switzerland/Netherlands etc. it's almost criminal to use only simple surgical masks when you go in a shop. FP98 at least should be used. Cleaning your hands is pretty useless as the virus is almost not infectious unless you bore you fingers deep into the nose. Infections 99.99% run over aerosols.
Let me be not so confident about 99,99% , since my science experience in wet molecular biology (microbiology) lab for more than 20 years and also because it is not possible to get the real data about the real pathways of infection from infected people. And, I am not even taking about how long virus is active on plastic as well as about the easiest way for infection which is not nose, but eye.
In Germany about half of the people in the tram (the same can be applied for shops) have self made masks. And, during the first Covid 19 wave in spring about 80 percent of the time, in shops cashiers were without masks and gloves (now they have mask, but not FP98).
And one more thing - Great Britain and US have approved usage of Pfizer vaccine - absolutely correct and in time decision, but EU and Germany not - somewhere till the begging of January. They are definitely not performing any additional tests, they are just simply reading submitted papers from Pfizer to sighn ?!!!!!???? EU bureaucracy is a criminal.
And btw, many of the 'procedures' you mention aren't necessary - the skill lies in knowing which ones are..
Could not agree more. It is a problem, but not sure what can be done about it though. Plenty of talk about reform over the years, but nothing seems to work.
And playing devils advocate; it may not be so much a problem with too many procedures being done, as it is Americans being so fat they need all those procedures. Obesity leads to blown out knees, backs, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, etc. If we slimmed down, we could put a lot of doctors out of business. 
If we slimmed down, we could put a lot of doctors out of business.
Not to mention Dunkin' Donuts
Ouch...3265 US deaths today. States with heaviest lockdown measures are exploding again. There seems to be no stopping this thing. Every state has enacted strict procedures to protect the elderly, yet the virus still gets through to them.
Good thing the vaccine is here.
EU bureaucracy is a criminal.
No: It's the elected/selected head of the FM/R/J/B mafia with some folkloristic decoration!
The vaccination will most likely have no impact on the pandemic. It will hopefully reduce the death toll.
The same can be done with Ivermectin at a fraction of the costs - with a free vaccination by a natural, infection...
Every horse get's it (Ivermectin) 4 times/year!
Display MoreNo: It's the elected/selected head of the FM/R/J/B mafia with some folkloristic decoration!
The vaccination will most likely have no impact on the pandemic. It will hopefully reduce the death toll.
The same can be done with Ivermectin at a fraction of the costs - with a free vaccination by a natural, infection...
Every horse get's it (Ivermectin) 4 times/year!
Sorry, I can not agree about vaccination, vaccination is absolutely right way. The only problem is that, at such critical time, politicians as decision makers should react fast and should approve fast. I don't see this in Germany. RNA vaccine is absolutely safe. Only some limited number of certain illness like allergy can be a problem (what was found recently). Your organism will just produce a protein from the RNA which then will degrade. The vaccine on the base of adenovirus has more limitations, but also for healthy people is quite safe.
