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Promote Fearmongering to advance their vaccine agenda. Spin doctors!

FM1 - what agenda - and why is it fearmongering to say delta is highly infectious? Do you disagree that everyone will end up catching it unless vaccinated (and many of the vaccinated will catch it as well, of course)?

Can you honestly say that messaging is wrong? And in any case it was a leaked set of slides taking an early estimate of R0. I think you muts have a big chip on your shoulder about CDC.

Also, I note the word fearmongering to describe anything about how bad COVID, long COVID, etc is. i don't notice fearmongering to describe the grossly innacurate scare stories about Vaccine adverse effects - which are in a different league entirely.

Are CDC spin doctors?

Well - if they are doing their job properly they should be, since they need to encourage everyone to do the right thing. The more effective the spin, the lower the COVID rates and the more the economy can open up.

It amazes me there are actually politicians in the US who are trashing the CDC guidelines and encouraging people to go against them - totally stupid if you care about the economy.

THH

Identification of lectin receptors for conserved SARS-CoV-2 glycosylation sites

https://www.embopress.org/doi/abs/10.15252/embj.2021108375

Abstract

New SARS-CoV-2 variants are continuously emerging with critical implications for therapies or vaccinations. The 22 N-glycan sites of Spike remain highly conserved among SARS-CoV-2 variants, opening an avenue for robust therapeutic intervention. Here we used a comprehensive library of mammalian carbohydrate-binding proteins (lectins) to probe critical sugar residues on the full-length trimeric Spike and the receptor binding domain (RBD) of SARS-CoV-2. Two lectins, Clec4g and CD209c, were identified to strongly bind to Spike. Clec4g and CD209c binding to Spike was dissected and visualized in real time and at single molecule resolution using atomic force microscopy. 3D modelling showed that both lectins can bind to a glycan within the RBD-ACE2 interface and thus interferes with Spike binding to cell surfaces. Importantly, Clec4g and CD209c significantly reduced SARS-CoV-2 infections. These data report the first extensive map and 3D structural modelling of lectin-Spike interactions and uncovers candidate receptors involved in Spike binding and SARS-CoV-2 infections. The capacity of CLEC4G and mCD209c lectins to block SARS-CoV-2 viral entry holds promise for pan-variant therapeutic interventions.

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Delta Variant Far Less Deadly than Previous Variants, According to TrialSite Analysis

These people are terminally confused. It is less deadly only because the most vulnerable people have been vaccinated. The low death rate has nothing to do with the variant.

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Are CDC spin doctors?

Well - if they are doing their job properly they should be, since they need to encourage everyone to do the right thing. The more effective the spin, the lower the COVID rates and the more the economy can open up.

It amazes me there are actually politicians in the US who are trashing the CDC guidelines and encouraging people to go against them - totally stupid if you are about the economy.

THH

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Politicians of both parties have said very stupid statements along the way but the CDC handed an internal PowerPoint presentation over to the media to maximize the crap presented in the presentation instead of calling there own press conference where it would be presented to the public without the sensational headlines. that is Fearmongering to advance an agenda!

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These people are terminally confused. It is less deadly only because the most vulnerable people have been vaccinated. The low death rate has nothing to do with the variant.

Not anymore than the ones saying it is!

Florida is ablaze with COVID-19—and its case data reporting is a hot mess

However you look at the data, Florida is seeing record-high cases and hospitalizations.

arstechnica.com

The CDC, which gets its data from Florida's health department, reported that the state had recorded all-time highs of nearly 24,000 new cases on August 6 and over 28,000 daily new cases on both August 7 and August 8. But the health department, which doesn't actually publish its own daily case numbers, disputed the CDC's numbers. According to the health department's Twitter account, the state had only logged 21,500 cases on August 6, 19,567 cases on August 7, and 15,319 on August 8. The health department claimed that the CDC had split three days' worth of new case totals across only two days in error.

Federal response

On Tuesday, the CDC updated the case counts for the disputed days—but the counts were still higher than what the Florida health department claimed on Twitter. The CDC still reports that Florida recorded nearly 24,000 new daily cases August 6, but only 21,487 on August 7 and 19,584 on August 8. The CDC now also reports that the Sunshine State had 15,322 new cases on August 9.

Overall, the new numbers adjusted the CDC's calculation of the state's seven-day rolling average of new daily cases on August 8 from roughly 22,500 to 20,000. Those averages are still all-time highs for the state.

As many people on Twitter pointed out, this dust-up could have been avoided if Florida simply reported its own daily data. The state stopped doing that June 4, as cases were on the decline and vaccines had become readily available.

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Court says Florida can’t block cruise line from requiring vaccines

Though the state of the pandemic has changed dramatically, things (besides the sluggish data reporting) in Florida haven't. Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis is still battling with local leaders and businesses over his bans on vaccination passports and mask mandates in schools.

While several Florida school districts have gone ahead with plans to mandate masks for staff and students—who are largely unvaccinated—DeSantis has fired back. On Monday, he threatened to withhold pay for superintendents and school board members who defied his mask mandate ban.

Superintendents and school board members are already fighting back. After officials on Florida's Broward County school board voted 8 to 1 Tuesday to keep a mask mandate, one board member told DeSantis to "bring it."

In a White House press briefing Tuesday, Press Secretary Jen Psaki suggested that any pay withheld from school officials for instituting mask mandates could be compensated with federal funds. She also addressed DeSantis directly, echoing a point made by President Joe Biden earlier, saying: "If you're not interested in following the public health guidelines to protect the lives of people in your state... then get out of the way."

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68% antibodies => possibly getting close to herd immunity (given that, unlike vaccination, natural infection targets the people and places who spread most).

Herd immunity is not something that turns on abruptly at a certain percentage. It increases gradually as more and more of the population is infected and recovers, or is vaccinated (or both).

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Not anymore than the ones saying it is!

FM1 - why are people saying the delta variant is more deadly than alpha confused?

I am not certain that it is, but current data seems to indicate that.

I remember there was this question of COVID severity being related to size of initial dose. well, one thing we know delta does is to increase typical size of initial dose since it is present at a much greater concentration in nasal liquids.

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Not anymore than the ones saying it is!

I am not sure what that means. Perhaps you are saying I misspoke. I should have said the Delta variant may be more deadly, according to some accounts. It is definitely more contagious. What I meant was: the lower death rate is entirely caused by the vulnerable population being vaccinated. Not because Delta is less dangerous.

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Politicians of both parties have said very stupid statements along the way but the CDC handed an internal PowerPoint presentation over to the media to maximize the crap presented in the presentation instead of calling there own press conference where it would be presented to the public without the sensational headlines. that is Fearmongering to advance an agenda!

Just as a matter of interest - what agenda do you think CDC has other than keeping people safe from disease?

The Towne Criers are like a bunch of flies swarming around. Is there collusion, of course, at scale, no? -- yes of course. Can't be. LOL. You don't know anything about how the world works. Look into Freemasonry and wakeup.

For those who still aren't mind controlled go understand the spike protein is what causes the disease - not the corona virus it was attached to. From an actual pathologist, so this is hard evidence.

A PATHOLOGIST SUMMARY OF WHAT THESE JABS DO TO THE BRAIN AND OTHER ORGANS

Ryan Cole MD AFLDS PHYSICIAN A scientific clarification of what these injections do in the head and other organs of the vaccinated people

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The Towne Criers are like a bunch of flies swarming around. Is there collusion, of course, at scale, no? -- yes of course. Can't be. LOL. You don't know anything about how the world works. Look into Freemasonry and wakeup.

For those who still aren't mind controlled go understand the spike protein is what causes the disease - not the corona virus it was attached to. From an actual pathologist, so this is hard evidence.

https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pa…ain-and-other-organs.html

Sure Navid - I'm a freemason -OK? I just forgot the weird hand-signal - and anyway you can't do it over the internet!

So - from one mind-controlled person to maybe another (have you been wearing your tin-hat all day? If not watch out Bill will be streaming those take the vaccine memes into your brain).

Ryan Cole MD is indeed a genuine pathologist. And a genuine right-wing fringe nut-job. But sorry to disavow you, pathologists are not experts on coronavirus replication or mRNA toxicity, as you will see below.

Idaho Doctor Makes Baseless Claims About Safety of COVID-19 Vaccines - FactCheck.org

A viral video features a doctor making dubious claims about COVID-19 vaccines and treatments at a forum hosted by Idaho's lieutenant governor. Dr. Ryan Cole…

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Cole is featured in a video that has amassed more than a million views. He makes a variety of claims, some of which we’ve addressed before.

The video was recorded while he spoke at a forum on March 4 hosted by Idaho’s lieutenant governor, Janice McGeachin, a Republican, and it was posted by a Libertarian organization called the Idaho Freedom Foundation.

McGeachin was featured in an October post by that group, posing with a Bible and a gun in a video that advocated against public health measures related to the pandemic and asked viewers to sign a statement saying that “any order issued in the future will be ignored.”

Cole said in an interview with FactCheck.org that he’s “not affiliated with any political party, group or organization.” According to the Idaho Secretary of State’s office, Cole is registered as a Republican.

In the March 4 video, Cole makes claims suggesting that federal agencies have acted nefariously, as well as claims that undermine vaccines and promise miracle treatments.

We’ll address his four main claims.

• Although there is no evidence to support this, Cole suggested that some of the COVID-19 vaccines could cause cancer or autoimmune diseases.
• Again, without evidence, Cole suggested that the federal government withheld a treatment for COVID-19 in order to “vend” a vaccine.
• Studies haven’t proved that ivermectin is effective in treating COVID-19, but Cole claimed that federal agencies “have suppressed this life-saving medication.”
• Cole said public health officials should encourage people to take vitamin D supplements rather than wear masks or stay physically distant from others.

Vaccine Safety

Two of the COVID-19 vaccines available in the U.S. use messenger RNA, or mRNA, to train recipients’ immune systems to make antibodies that fight the virus that causes COVID-19. (See SciCheck’s articles on those vaccines: “A Guide to Moderna’s COVID-19 Vaccine“ and “A Guide to Pfizer/BioNTech’s COVID-19 Vaccine.”)

These are the first vaccines using mRNA technology authorized in the U.S., but scientists have been developing and testing mRNA vaccines for years, including in people during clinical trials. Still, misinformation exploiting fears of this new technology has been common online.

To those bogus claims, Cole has now added: “mRNA trials in mammals have led to odd cancers. mRNA trials on mammals have led to autoimmune diseases — not right away, six, nine, 12 months later.”

We asked Cole to provide support for those claims, and he referred us to a 2018 paper published in the journal Nature Reviews Drug Discovery that reviewed trials and studies of various, earlier mRNA vaccines.

But that paper doesn’t support his statement.

Norbert Pardi, a research assistant professor of medicine at the University of Pennsylvania, was the lead author of the paper. He told us in an email, “No publications demonstrate that mRNA vaccines cause cancer or autoimmune diseases.”

Pardi’s 19-page paper does make one passing reference to autoimmune diseases, which is what Cole highlighted to us.

The paper says: “A possible concern could be that some mRNA-based vaccine platforms induce potent type I interferon responses, which have been associated not only with inflammation but also potentially with autoimmunity. Thus, identification of individuals at an increased risk of autoimmune reactions before mRNA vaccination may allow reasonable precautions to be taken.”

But, Pardi explained, he and the other researchers included that passage because they wanted to note some potential concerns. However, he emphasized that “no scientific evidence has confirmed that these concerns are real.”

It’s also worth noting that the paper predated the COVID-19 pandemic by two years, so it doesn’t include any information specifically about the COVID-19 vaccines.

Simply put, “there is no scientific evidence that shows that mRNA vaccines cause autoimmune diseases,” Pardi said. “Multiple clinical trials have been performed with mRNA vaccines in the past 10 years and none of them found that mRNA vaccination caused autoimmune diseases. Further, we are not aware of any studies showing an autoimmune disease appearing many months after vaccination as Dr. Cole inaccurately suggests.”

Likewise, Dr. Roger Shapiro, associate professor of immunology and infectious diseases at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, told us in an email that he was unaware of any study that would support Cole’s claim that the vaccines are carcinogenic.

“There is nothing in the science of mRNA vaccines that would suggest carcinogenicity, and they have been tested in humans for other diseases before COVID-19,” Shapiro said. “mRNA rapidly breaks down in the body, and probably does not last long enough to act as a carcinogen.”

“Regarding autoimmunity,” he said, “this is always a concern with any medical product, but there is no evidence to date suggesting it, and it does not seem any more likely than with other vaccines. mRNA is made all the time in our bodies, and delivering it by vaccine should not be different.”

Dr. Dean Winslow, an infectious disease physician at Stanford Health Care, concurred with the other experts with whom we spoke. In a phone interview, he characterized Cole’s claims about cancer as “fearmongering” and said, “There’s just no scientific basis for that.”

“We’re talking about these very small fragments of messenger RNA that don’t hang around for long at all,” he said, noting that the mRNA vaccines have been in use for almost six months and have been “very safe, very well-tolerated vaccines.”

Winslow recognized that some people are concerned that the mRNA from the vaccine might persist in their bodies and somehow change their genetics or cause long-term effects. So he emphasized that the vaccines have small fragments of RNA, which survive only briefly and carry information about the virus that causes COVID-19.

Similarly, Pardi told us, “COVID-19 mRNA vaccines do not alter our DNA and they get rapidly degraded so they do not promote cancer formation.”

Treatments, Vaccines Can Both Be Approved

Cole also suggested in the video that the federal government had suppressed a treatment for COVID-19 in order to “vend” a vaccine. (We’ll address his claims about the supposed treatment in the next section.)

“If there’s a treatment for a disease, the federal government cannot approve a vaccine by law, by rule,” Cole falsely claimed, suggesting that federal agencies were withholding access to a treatment for COVID-19 so that they could instead profit from vaccines.

“So, the NIH, who, you know, is involved in approving medications, they co-hold the patent on the ‘vaccine’ with Moderna,” Cole said, referring to the National Institutes of Health, an agency that does not approve medications. “If the fox is not guarding the henhouse there, I don’t know who is. That also is insanity to have the government in bed with a private company vending a product that they want to give to everybody.”

There are several problems with this statement.

First, there is no law barring vaccines if treatments are available for a given disease, said Jorge Contreras, a professor in the College of Law at the University of Utah who specializes in intellectual property and genetics and the law. He asked, “Why would there be such a law?”

Clearly there isn’t, Contreras pointed out, since the Food and Drug Administration authorizes a flu vaccine every year while Tamiflu, an antiviral drug used to treat the flu, has been available since the FDA approved it in 1999.

“It’s certainly true that many diseases that we vaccinate for, there is no known cure for,” he said, noting that this is often the case with viral diseases, which are hard to treat.

“But that’s not a legal requirement. That’s a scientific reality,” he said.

As for Cole’s claim about the NIH, that agency conducts and funds research. It doesn’t approve drugs, medical devices or vaccines — that’s a function of the FDA.

The NIH did collaborate with Moderna on the development of its COVID-19 vaccine. As we’ve explained, government researchers had previously been working with scientists at Moderna on an investigational vaccine to protect against MERS, another disease caused by a coronavirus. The team was able to apply that knowledge to design a COVID-19 vaccine.

Since the NIH does research, it also files and receives patents, many of which it licenses to pharmaceutical companies. So, Contreras said, NIH’s patents stemming from research on mRNA vaccines are to be expected, and use of those patents by pharmaceutical companies is also to be expected. Similarly, scientists from government-funded labs sometimes share credit on patents with scientists from privately funded labs. That’s normal, too, Contreras said.

Generally, he explained, there are two reasons that the NIH licenses its patents to companies. First, the NIH is a taxpayer-funded institution, and it can recoup some of its investment in research by lending out the use of its discoveries. Second, the clinical trials required to bring a drug or vaccine to market are risky and expensive, so, theoretically, making its discoveries available to companies can encourage the private sector to take the risk and create products.

So, Cole mischaracterizes the relationship between the NIH and the vaccine manufacturers when he says that it’s a “conflict of interest” to have the “federal government in bed with a vaccine company.”

It’s actually normal to have pharmaceutical companies use government-owned patents.

And he’s wrong when he says of federal agencies, “they don’t want a therapy to work because then they can vend their vaccine.”

There’s nothing that would prohibit the use of vaccines if there were an effective treatment for COVID-19.

Not Enough Data on Ivermectin

Neither the World Health Organization nor the National Institutes of Health has recommended the use of ivermectin — a common anti-parasitic medication — in the treatment of COVID-19.

Merck, the pharmaceutical company that manufactures ivermectin, has similarly noted that there is “[n]o scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies; No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and; A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.”

But Cole claimed in the video that ivermectin is a “treatment” for COVID-19.

He suggested that federal agencies have stifled its use so that they could profit from vaccines, as we explained above.

“We’re in farm country, horse country — you know, you give it to your dogs, your cats, your horses,” Cole said in the video, addressing an audience in Idaho.

Ivermectin is used to treat parasites in animals, but crossover use in humans can be dangerous. While Cole may have only been emphasizing the ubiquity of the drug, not suggesting that people should take veterinary medicine, the FDA has said that patients have been hospitalized after taking ivermectin intended for horses as interest in the drug as treatment for COVID-19 has grown.

Ivermectin does have antiviral properties, but the FDA hasn’t approved it to treat any viral infections. It is being studied with regard to COVID-19, though, according to both the WHO and NIH.

“Treating COVID-19 with Ivermectin is still being evaluated in clinical trials, but at present there is not enough evidence to support its use,” said Shapiro, the Harvard professor. “My understanding is that the inhibitory dose needed for it to work is extremely high and trying to take enough to suppress the virus could lead to other problems.”

The trials so far have “showed no benefit or worsening disease, some showed shorter time to disease resolution or viral clearance, and some did show a possible mortality benefit; but there were problems with most of these trials that include small sample size and different outcome measures and other possible biases,” he said.

Winslow, from Stanford, cautioned that “there have been many claims for miracle cures” over the course of the pandemic and said that ivermectin would need more rigorous study before we know how useful it would be in treating COVID-19.

“Ivermectin truly is a wonder drug for parasitic diseases,” he said, “but my suspicion is that it will be a lot like hydroxychloroquine.”

Hydroxychloroquine is an antimalarial drug that was touted by former President Donald Trump as a treatment for COVID-19, although studies found that it wasn’t an effective treatment and may cause serious side effects in some patients, as we’ve explained before.

The problem with drugs like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, which are promoted as having broad-spectrum antiviral properties, is that the quantity of inhibitor required to effectively kill off the virus also sickens the host cells, Winslow said.

Even potent versions, like remdesivir, which Winslow referred to as the “gold standard” of specific antiviral therapy in COVID-19 treatments, only accelerates the time to recovery, but doesn’t significantly reduce death rates or mortality from COVID-19. Remdesivir is the only drug approved by the FDA to treat COVID-19; the approval is for patients requiring hospitalization.

So, Cole’s claim that “there is blood on the hands of bureaucrats in Washington who have suppressed this life-saving medication,” is unfounded. Ivermectin hasn’t been proved to be effective.

Overstating Effect of Vitamin D

Another of the major points that Cole emphasized in the video is the role vitamin D could have in fighting COVID-19.

“If you do not supplement with vitamin D in the wintertime, you are immune suppressed. Most insurance companies in Idaho and northern states do not pay for a vitamin D test, unfortunately,” said Cole, whose lab offers several vitamin D tests.

After eschewing public health guidelines that recommend staying six feet apart and wearing masks to slow the spread of the virus, Cole said, “What should public health message number one, two, and three be? Vitamin D, vitamin D, vitamin D.”

It’s true that vitamin D, which is mostly associated with bone health, plays a part in the immune system. But that doesn’t mean it’s a panacea for COVID-19, as we’ve explained before.

While a lot of basic research points to vitamin D having a role in the immune system, it is less clear if these mechanisms are applicable in clinical practice and to what degree they would benefit COVID-19 patients, as we’ve written. Studies assessing whether vitamin D can treat or prevent infectious diseases have generally been inconsistent.

A recent article from NPR looked at the research on vitamin D with respect to COVID-19 over the last year and found, essentially, the same thing. It also noted that some studies have shown that low vitamin D levels are associated with a higher risk of contracting COVID-19 or with becoming seriously ill.

“While these studies raised hopes among some researchers, others are skeptical, noting that most of these are observational studies, not the gold-standard randomized, controlled trials,” the story said.

“Much of the available evidence only shows association — not causation — and even those results are mixed,” Walter Willett, a professor of nutrition and epidemiology at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, told NPR.

In September, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said in an Instagram Live interview that for those who are deficient in vitamin D, “I would not mind recommending, and I do it myself, taking vitamin D supplements.” But, as we wrote before, excessive doses should not be used.

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For those who still aren't mind controlled go understand the spike protein is what causes the disease - not the corona virus it was attached to.

And yet the number of cases falls to zero when people are vaccinated. And it is the same spike you get with the common cold, which does not hospitalize or kill you. How strange!

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From an actual pathologist, so this is hard evidence.

So are the statistics showing that the vaccine eliminates the disease, and that it has caused zero casualties. That's hard evidence from millions of actual pathologists, actual epidemiologists, public health agencies, doctors and hospitals. So, why do you believe what this one crackpot says and ignore what all the others say?

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Funny then that it should be discussed, in detail, in a Nature paper 5 days ago?

Nature papers are written 6 months ago. This is as outdated as the stocks rating of yesterday. So simply of no value at all.

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First study data on delta: the vaccines reduce chance of even asymptomatic infection by 50%

Thanks! Now you confirm that vaccine protection is just 50%. And according Pfizer it goes down 6%/month...

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And yet the number of cases falls to zero when people are vaccinated. And it is the same spike you get with the common cold, which does not hospitalize or kill you. How strange!

So are the statistics showing that the vaccine eliminates the disease, and that it has caused zero casualties. That's hard evidence from millions of actual pathologists, actual epidemiologists, public health agencies, doctors and hospitals. So, why do you believe what this one crackpot says and ignore what all the others say?

I am not trained in trauma psychology - so I'm not qualified to respond to disassociation.

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I am not certain that it is, but current data seems to indicate that.

No such data seen so far. Just FUD!

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“We’re talking about these very small fragments of messenger RNA that don’t hang around for long at all,” he said, noting that the mRNA vaccines have been in use for almost six months and have been “very safe, very well-tolerated vaccines.”

This guy is honest. We! are talking. We = FM/R/J/B mafia that want to suck out as much money form the states as possible...

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And yet the number of cases falls to zero when people are vaccinated.

This is outrageous bullshit . Only natural infection can currently do this. Look at Israel data already 1/3 of the vaccinated compared to unvaccinated get it!

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Ryan Cole MD is indeed a genuine pathologist. And a genuine right-wing fringe nut-job.

May be a good new vaccine will once do it!

Who behind the THHuxleynew avatar does all this crappy lookup?? Only a free mason round table can do this...

Your technique is mediocre just adequate for convincing children. Your biggest failure is always to mention non factual items like politics etc...

For me you (and all your friends behind the avatar) are just a funny source of misinformation.

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And it is the same spike you get with the common cold,

Of course you get from beer & Whiskey and from burgers and may be also from Walmart...

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So, why do you believe what this one crackpot says and ignore what all the others professional crack pots say??

ICU doctor struggling to deal with anti-vaxx patients.

My experiences in the ICU these past weeks have left me surprised, disheartened, but most of all, angry.

I am angry that the tragic scenes of prior surges are being played out yet again, but now with ICUs primarily filled with patients who have chosen not to be vaccinated. I am angry that it takes me over an hour to explain to an anti-vaxxer full of misinformation that intubation isn’t what “kills patients” and that their wish for chest compressions without intubation in the event of a respiratory arrest makes no sense. I am angry at those who refuse to wear “muzzles” when grocery shopping for half an hour a week, as I have been so-called “muzzled” for much of the past 18 months.

I cannot understand the simultaneous decision to not get vaccinated and the demand to end the restrictions imposed by a pandemic. I cannot help but recoil as if I’ve been slapped in the face when my ICU patient tells me they didn’t get vaccinated because they “just didn’t get around to it.” Although such individuals do not consider themselves anti-vaxxers, their inaction itself is a decision — a decision to not protect themselves or their families, to fill a precious ICU bed, to let new variants flourish, and to endanger the health care workers and immunosuppressed people around them. Their inaction is a decision to let this pandemic continue to rage.

And meanwhile, immunocompromised people, for whom vaccines don’t generate much immunity, are desperately waiting for herd immunity. I have no way to comfort my rightfully outraged transplant patients who contracted COVID-19 after isolating for over a year and getting fully vaccinated as soon as they could. With angry tears, these patients tell me it’s not fair that there are people who are choosing to endanger both themselves and the vulnerable people around them. They feel betrayed by their fellow citizens and they are bitter and angry. I cannot blame them.

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My experiences in the ICU these past weeks have left me surprised, disheartened, but most of all, angry.

One more Dr. Mengele ICU doctor not giving patients Ivermectin and obviously does not follow the proper protocol!

Such people should shut up and do the work they are supposed to do. The RNA gen therapy cannot stop delta. If you are lucky you belong to the 2/3 that have enough protection from it...The rest lands in ICU as the unlucky unvaccinated too.