For the children with a reading disability: UK report 22.
Table 5. Attendance to emergency care and deaths of sequenced and genotyped Delta cases in England by vaccination status (1 February 2021 to 29 August 2021)
age ≥50 total cases 71,107 unvaccinated 6,724 = ==> vaccinated in all parts: 64'383. 90.8%. Claimed people vaccinated age > 50 98%!
==> vaccines protect 7% of the people from an ICU visit compared to unvaccinated. But still about 61 % from a long time ICU stay!
UK Appears to Take more Cautious ‘Targeted’ Approach to Young Child COVID-19 Vaccination
Should children as young as five be vaccinated with mRNA vaccines from Pfizer? The American pharmaceutical company’s CEO is upbeat that soon his company will open up this lucrative new market. After all, he reported recently that study data associated with kids aged five to 11 will be submitted to regulators before the end of the month. In March, TrialSite reported on a clinical program involving people as young as six months old. Now in ongoing promotional mode—probably not appropriate as none of these vaccines should be touted until regulators have reviewed the data—the CEO shared, “We know that the vaccine works very well in young kids,” informing news reporters yesterday. He emphasized that the company is “…working also to submit data from five to 11 [year old] this month.” Soon the age cohort two to five would be next; data for the age range of six months to two years old may be submitted by October or November.
The Study
TrialSite has reported on several trial sites conducting the Pfizer study. The Phase 2/3 clinical trial (NCT04816643) investigates the two-shot course with less dosage at ten micrograms compared to 30 micrograms for children and adults 12 and up.
Importantly, this study started in March 2021 and formally runs until September 27, 2023, over a two-year investigation. Pfizer will review, package, and submit to regulatory bodies such as the FDA as the data comes in. However, the actual study has been ongoing for a couple of years. In addition to many dozens of trial sites in the United States, research centers in Poland, Spain, and Finland also participate in the study—as well as possibly other centers not disclosed.
USA vs. the UK
Over 10 million children 12 and up have been inoculated in America while the United Kingdom has become a bit more conservative of late. The UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunization (JVCI) now moves toward a more conservative, risk-based strategy, targeting “high risk” kids with underlying conditions as top candidates for the jabs.
Unlike in America, where POTUS broke protocol by announcing booster campaigns before the FDA has even reviewed data—causing a couple of prominent vaccine regulators to resign at the Gold Standard agency—the UK ponders the real value of vaccinating healthy children, assessing the benefits of the vaccination only “marginally” outweigh risks, according to the recent Telegraph piece written by Sarah Newey.
UK JVCI Takes a Stand
The JVCI is taking a somewhat contrarian position to some other national regulators looking at child vaccination. In taking a “targeted approach,” the group reported recently:
“The available evidence indicates that the individual health benefits from COVID-19 vaccination are small in those aged 12 to 15 years who do not have underlying health conditions which put them at risk of severe COVID-19. The potential risks from vaccination are also small, with reports of post-vaccination myocarditis being very rare, but potentially serious and still in the process of being described. Given the rarity of these events and the limited follow-up time of children and young people with post-vaccination myocarditis, substantial uncertainty remains regarding the health risks associated with these adverse events.”
On the Promotional Path
Yet without studies complete, CEO Dr. Bourla is already on the quasi-scientific-communications/marketing campaign, declaring in front of the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers Association (IPFMA) that “Science supports vaccination of children” associated with COVID-19. Moreover, even despite the aforementioned UK JVCI statement, Bourla declared, “It is not my role to say who should be receiving doses,” noted the Pfizer chief. He continued, “But what I can say, clearly, is that younger ages are getting sick… the percentage of people that will get severe [Covid] in older ages is higher than in younger, but this [risk] is not zero.”
The market for Pfizer will be even more lucrative if the large age cohort of 6-month-old to 12-year-old kids are forced to have an annual vaccine—much like a flu shot. Pfizer’s revenue from this one product has shattered all Big Pharma records, projecting $33 million from the vaccine in just 2021. An unprecedented amount of money in one year for any Big Pharma, TrialSite suggests shareholder pressure would have taken Bourla’s job if he didn’t pursue a total and complete vaccination program. Of course, there is the vaccine-centric eradication of the SARS-CoV-2 approach the company has been asked to respond to by the most powerful governments.
Display MoreTHH FUD alert: The real documented UK Cov-19 death rate among people age <50 is below 0.03 - far below flu, that usually is at least 0.1 for weak flu and 0.5 for strong flu: See CDC influenza.
The vaccines best case add 1% overall protection from death as serious calculations shows. Of course the temporary protection of the people age > 75 is much much higher. But there is none for people age < 50. And negative for people age <35.
So if you tell us vaccines work you have to say: Vaccines work e.g. for people age > 65 or for people with comorbidity.
The irony of CoV-19 is that the death rate for people age >75 is more than 100x larger than for people age < 50. So it's basically a disease of the old.
Please check the UK report again. Effectively its slightly negative for vaccinated age > 50. You must take the figure unvaccinated and subtract it from total cases. The same you get from the graphic.
I have corrected you in detail too many times to bother again if it requires any work.
Give your full derivation for vaccinations increasing probability of death with links to any figures you rely on, and I will explain again why you are wrong.
Just a reminder, consider:
Re Flu: overall - COVID is 10X more severe than Flu, at least.
COVID and Flu have different age dependence. Flu age dependence is very complex because it is almost never a completely new virus and prior exposure alters mortality rates. I can't even answer the question - which is worse mortality < 50 because it depends which Flu. And anyway so what?
THH
Simpson's Paradox : Covid19 results are SO dependent on age (vulnerability, who got vaxed first : pfizer, demographics) ... that I'm starting to distrust all single-number stats!
USA vs. the UK
Over 10 million children 12 and up have been inoculated in America while the United Kingdom has become a bit more conservative of late. The UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunization (JVCI) now moves toward a more conservative, risk-based strategy, targeting “high risk” kids with underlying conditions as top candidates for the jabs.
Unlike the US, the UK JCVI is a limied committee with immunologists and epidemiologists whose remit is to look at direct health benefits only.
The UK JCVI judgement is that personally for the children the direct health benefit/risk equation is marginal, the JVCI decided to push the decision back to other people who would consider non-health benefits, e.g. children losing less school, or keeping carers alive. We will end up vaccinating 12-16.
But the key point is that the UK JCVI is not the equivalent of the CDC - it does only part of the work and in this case explicitly said it wanted the decision to be decided based on broader criteria.
As is common, TSN annoys me by spinning stories in a deliberately anti-government anti-vaccine way.
Simpson's Paradox : Covid19 results are SO dependent on age (vulnerability, who got vaxed first : pfizer, demographics) ... that I'm starting to distrust all single-number stats!
Seems they, in a deceitful way told us long ago what they were going to do to us. I remember writing a letter in response if they keep attempting to do all this I would pull them off the planet and put them in space just to see them fall down. So if someone yells the sky is falling.. It may be best to get out of the way..
High Death Rate Among Vaccinated Brings Vaccine Dystopia Into View
High Death Rate Among Vaccinated Brings Vaccine Dystopia Into View
Note that views expressed in this opinion article are the writer’s personal views and not necessarily those of TrialSite.
Joel S. Hirschhorn
A new report with detailed data from Public Health England provides some startling numbers.
For the period of February 1 through August 2 there were COVID Delta variant cases for 47,000 people who had received 2 vaccine doses, and for 151,054 people who were unvaccinated.
In the first group of vaccinated people, there were a total of 402 deaths. In the second much larger group with more than three times unvaccinated people, there were just 253 deaths.
In other words, of the total COVID deaths 61 percent were in fully vaccinated people.
To get the death rate you divide the number of deaths by the total number of infection cases.
That gives a death rate of .86 percent among the vaccinated and .17 percent among the unvaccinated.
That is an amazing difference. The death rate among vaccinated was just over five times greater than that for the unvaccinated.
Five times greater! In other words, unvaccinated people who got infected were enormously safer from death. Proving that COVID vaccines are not safe.
Medical science
How can we explain this huge difference in terms of medical science?
It should also be noted that it was determined that the measured viral load in both groups was the same.
So, why are vaccinated people dying more frequently than the unvaccinated? Here are some plausible explanations.
First, there is something very dangerous and unsafe in the COVID vaccines associated with spike proteins that are causing people to die at a higher rate. For example, as discussed elsewhere, all current vaccines have been associated with serious blood problems, notably both large and microscopic blood clots. Many people have died from brain bleeds and strokes, for example. There are also many, many other types of adverse side effects causing a host of medical problems.
Two famous virologists warned against using the current vaccines because they are fundamentally unsafe and could be killing people. They envisioned a vaccine dystopia and loudly proclaimed that the mass vaccination program should be halted. Instead, they advocated the use of treatments using generic medicines like ivermectin, as detailed in Pandemic Blunder.
Second, it is reasonable to believe that most unvaccinated people have acquired natural immunity from some prior COVID infection. And that natural immunity is far more protective than the artificial or vaccine immunity obtained from jabs. Their natural immunity translates to fewer deaths. Yet the US like many other countries does not give credit for natural immunity on a par with vaccine immunity when it comes to COVID passports and mandates. Though a few nations do the right thing by honestly following the science.
Third, vaccinated people are susceptible to breakthrough infections, which means that they are not protected against infection after they have been originally infected. Phony and dangerous COVID vaccines do not destroy the virus, nor prevent transmitting it to others. Some breakthrough infections are lethal.
Conclusions
The death rate found in the UK for vaccinated people translates to about 1,300 deaths for vaccinated Americans. Indeed, an August report revealed that new CDC data indicated 1,507 people of those fully vaccinated died. It seems like these figures are only for breakthrough infection deaths, because the CDC VAERS database indicates more than 6,000 vaccine deaths (through August 27) that are reported as vaccine adverse effects. [But nearly 14,000 deaths apparently when non-US data are included.]
A higher death rate from COVID for vaccinated people in the US might be related to a generally unhealthier population with more serious health conditions.
Just days ago, it was reported that West Virginia saw a 25% increase in deaths of people that are fully vaccinated over the last eight weeks. At the same time, it was reported that in Massachusetts 144 people fully vaccinated also died from COVID, an 80 percent increase from several weeks earlier, and that new total translates to about 4,800 for the whole nation. In New Jersey, there was a 16 percent increase in breakthrough deaths recently. In Ireland, 18 percent of COVID deaths were in fully vaccinated people.
The new data from England involving very large numbers of people should be headline news. But the biased and dishonest big media suppress this kind of critical data. Why? Clearly, if vaccinated people die at a much higher rate than unvaccinated people, then why should people be enthusiastic about being vaccinated for initial shots or later booster ones? They should not. This is especially true for the millions of people who have natural immunity.
The data from England show that people need to question CDC data because CDC has converted some vaccinated deaths to unvaccinated ones. Hospitals are often not testing vaccinated people for COVID, so breakthrough cases that can result in deaths go unreported. People should question the safety of all the COVID vaccines even if they get fully approved by FDA.
In a sane world with truthful media so many deaths of vaccinated people from COVID and direct vaccine impacts would be headline news and cast great doubt on COVID vaccine safety and effectiveness. Denial is abundant. But in truth we are on the edge of history. Meaning that the forecasts about a vaccine dystopia by a number of highly respected medical scientists is beginning to be documented by new data. And also, by the mainstream media coverage of famous people from the entertainment, sports and political realms who have died from COVID breakthrough infections and direct vaccine impacts.
Insanity is promoting more vaccine jabs even as the evidence accumulates that all the vaccines are both unsafe and ineffective. Fauci and the drug companies cannot stop themselves. They will keep the vaccine money train moving. Eventually, more people will stop believing that vaccines save enough lives to justify all the vaccine deaths. In a perverse way, the vaccine mandates and passports may just push the ugly reality into view as vaccine deaths worsen.
Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn, author of Pandemic Blunder and many articles on the pandemic, worked on health issues for decades. As a full professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, he directed a medical research program between the colleges of engineering and medicine. As a senior official at the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment and the National Governors Association, he directed major studies on health-related subjects; he testified at over 50 U.S. Senate and House hearings and authored hundreds of articles and op-ed articles in major newspapers. He has served as an executive volunteer at a major hospital for more than 10 years. He is a member of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons and America’s Frontline Doctors.
In the first group of vaccinated people, there were a total of 402 deaths. In the second much larger group with more than three times unvaccinated people, there were just 253 deaths.
That gives a death rate of .86 percent among the vaccinated and .17 percent among the unvaccinated.
So are you regretting having the vaccine Fm1? Increasing your risk of dying by over 4x is significant, to say the least.
That is an amazing difference. The death rate among vaccinated was just over five times greater than that for the unvaccinated.
That is what I noted/posted from UK/Israel data already 3 months ago. If you have been vaccinated and get CoV-19 then your risk is 5x higher due to immune suppression and ADE. But the risk to go to a severe illness state is lower the 5 months after vaccination. I know that this again is difficult for children - lower risk for sever illness but higher risk when you get it...
At that time mostly all of the age group >50 have been fully vaccinated. But for getting better data one would need the age distribution of deaths in both groups.
What we now exactly know is that the Pfizer vaccine is totally crap.
- during the 2 weeks after jab 1 1.2% (during high load CoV-19) get CoV-19 due to immune suppression. 0.3% after second jab booster yet unknown. We have to wait for one more week of Israel data to calculate the Pfizer CoV-19 booster deaths.
- Pfizer gen therapy induces no proper immune memory!
- Normal inflammation processes (quite frequent in the vulnerable) will steadily clear out the antibodies as these signal to ACE-2.
- Boosters do not improve the immune memory B-cells even worse these slightly regress to a more uniform (= less broad) state.
- Side effects of Pfizer are severe but also from Astra Zeneca (Oxford).
So if you need to vaccinate then at least take Moderna in case you like to have a gen therapy.
Report seems to be (via another site) .. Aug 6, 2021
Table 5, p 18 has deaths ...
vax unvax
< 50 : 25,536 147,612
deaths `13 48
rate 0.05% 0.03%
vax unvax
> 50: 21,472 3,440
Deaths 389 205
rate 1.8% 5.9%
Please check my arithmetic !!!!
I only counted the double-vaxed. The previous columns are for
<21 days after dose 1, <= 21 days after dose 1
Off to put them in a spreadsheet
Display MoreHigh Death Rate Among Vaccinated Brings Vaccine Dystopia Into View
Note that views expressed in this opinion article are the writer’s personal views and not necessarily those of TrialSite.
Joel S. Hirschhorn
A new report with detailed data from Public Health England provides some startling numbers.
For the period of February 1 through August 2 there were COVID Delta variant cases for 47,000 people who had received 2 vaccine doses, and for 151,054 people who were unvaccinated.
In the first group of vaccinated people, there were a total of 402 deaths. In the second much larger group with more than three times unvaccinated people, there were just 253 deaths.
In other words, of the total COVID deaths 61 percent were in fully vaccinated people.
To get the death rate you divide the number of deaths by the total number of infection cases.
That gives a death rate of .86 percent among the vaccinated and .17 percent among the unvaccinated.
Here is Joel Hirschhorn showing quite how innumerate he is by forgetting vulnerable get vaccinated and Simpson's Paradox.
Where does TSN drag these people up from?
THH
Display MoreReport seems to be (via another site) .. Aug 6, 2021
https://assets.publishing.serv…Technical_Briefing_20.pdf
Table 5, p 18 has deaths ...
vax unvax
< 50 : 25,536 147,612
deaths `13 48
rate 0.05% 0.03%
vax unvax
> 50: 21,472 3,440
Deaths 389 205
rate 1.8% 5.9%
Please check my arithmetic !!!!
I only counted the double-vaxed. The previous columns are for
<21 days after dose 1, <= 21 days after dose 1
Off to put them in a spreadsheet
Chunking by <50 and >50 removes some of the vulnerable get vaccinated bias but not most of it, because the unvaccinated are still skewed to lower ages. But you do not get quite such scary errors as in Joel's mistake above.
Although COVID mortality varies a lot even within a 10 year age band, vaccination probability typically does not, so you get a reasonably OK answer using decade bands.
So are you regretting having the vaccine Fm1? Increasing your risk of dying by over 4x is significant, to say the least.
No not at all I took the J&J vac. However my wife also had the jab and showed no antibodies after 90 days so on advice of oncologist she took a Moderna booster, again no antibodies after 40 days. So my friend just how do you think I should feel about the vaccine?
The SARS-CoV-2 Lambda Variant May Give Vaccines a Harder Time
A group of researchers led by scientists at National Jewish Health, Denver, Colorado, and collaborators from China recently uploaded the results of their study to the preprint server bioRxiv. With a focus on the Lambda variant of interest, the study team recognized the need for a deeper comprehension of the driving mechanisms that make SARS-CoV-2 variants of interest more transmissible than the original wild-type virus from Wuhan, China. This multinational study team sought to break down the elements associated with higher variant infectivity and immune resistance for both the present-day Delta variant and the nascent Lambda. Unfortunately, the authors suspect Lambda could overtake Delta to become the dominant variant.
TrialSite provides a short breakdown of this yet-to-be peer-reviewed and published study.
Are variants becoming more difficult to treat at a high level than the wild-type (original) SARS-CoV-2?
Yes, Delta has demonstrated this. While the original pathogen from China possessed six times more binding affinity directed to the receptor-binding domain (RBD) and angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), the coronavirus entry into the human host cell as compared to the first coronavirus.
The virus can be thought of as almost evolving, although technically it’s not alive or mutating. So as we take the wild-type that first emerged at Wuhan and apply it to the Delta variant, differences emerge and manifest in distinctive mutations and characteristics that propel these mutating pathogens to the top of the dominant order. That’s why they are morphing—to persist and dominate.
Do studies reveal that both Delta from India and Lambda from South America have higher infectious rates?
Yes. This is the case in both the unvaccinated and the vaccinated (breakthrough infections).
What does the study team’s data show when comparing the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines and the variants of interest?
The study team analyzed sera associated with those who received BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) and found that vaccines provided far better protection against the Delta variant versus Lambda. In fact, the study team reports a weaker response to Lambda.
Does the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine wane?
Yes. In this study, it declined in effectivity (a drop in titer of antibodies) by 3-fold just six months post inoculation. This indicates a real problem and hence why booster programs are ultimately discussed openly now. In Israel, which is mostly vaccinated with Pfizer-BioNTech, has been impacted by extensive breakthrough infections. Although it’s one of the most vaccinated countries, they experience now one of the worst pandemic surges.
Did Delta variant boost ACE2 binding as compared to wild-type?
Yes.
How does this play out with monoclonal antibodies?
The authors write that the monoclonal antibody bamlanivimab lowers the binding affinity to Delta variant by about 20-fold and “fully lost binding to Lambda variant.”
What did the team’s structural modeling of complexes of RBD with human receptor (ACE2) and the monoclonal antibody bamlanivimab suggest?
First, they report a “potential basis of the change of binding” but conclude with an even more ominous tone noting that the “Data suggest possible danger and a potential surge of Lambda variant in the near future.”
For a question and answer on Lambda, see the link.
Lead Research/Investigator
Haolin Liu, National Jewish Health, Dept. of Immunology and Genomic Medicine, Denver, CO
Gongyi Zhang, National Jewish Health, Dept. of Immunology and Genomic Medicine, Denver, CO; School of Medicine, Anschutz Medical Center
Other authors can be viewed at the source.
I only counted the double-vaxed.
(actual report is 22 not 20)
The only thing that is reliable is using number of unvaccinated vs. number of all kind of vaccinated. Vaccinated is anyway a fake number as it contains at least 50% people that had a CoV-19 infection and are protected by the infection. Further it also contains all naturally protected from classic corona.
Further what counts is only the age class >50. The mortality among age <50 is far below flu. So in reality we want to know what is the risk of unvaccinated vs. all other forms of pseudo vaccinated.
Be also aware that we cannot use the data before 1st march this year as no vaccine protection did exist before. Thus all deaths before must be neglected. Thus a correct report can only be done for e.g. a period of 2-4 week starting from July where we are in a good load (High pandemic) situation.
Do studies reveal that both Delta from India and Lambda from South America have higher infectious rates?
Yes. This is the case in both the unvaccinated and the vaccinated (breakthrough infections).
Wouw ... This is known since October 2020...
Here is Joel Hirschhorn showing quite how innumerate he is by forgetting vulnerable get vaccinated and Simpson's Paradox.
Where does TSN drag these people up from?
Here is our supper expert THH forgetting to take into account that among vaccinated > 50% had an infection already and 80% are protected by common corona infections.
Further we should only discuss about the group age >50.
Does the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine wane?
Yes. In this study, it declined in effectivity (a drop in titer of antibodies) by 3-fold just six months post inoculation. This indicates a real problem
No problem for Pfizer. Just higher bribes needed to sell the crap...
Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn, author of Pandemic Blunder and many articles on the pandemic, worked on health issues for decades. As a full professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, he directed a medical research program between the colleges of engineering and medicine.
I can't quite believe this guy! He is a full STEM Professor at Uni of Madison and he makes such very elementary errors in statistics? Lets look him up:
He has quite a track record of mistakes in writing about the pandemic:
(Hirschhorn argues that HCQ works because of real world data)
Given his lack of consideration of how confounding factors affect statistics about vaccinations, he probably thinks Zelenko's real world data (from a very young Orthodox Jewish catchment area) showing lower than typical hospital admissions is evidence in favour of HCQ working?
It upsets me when guys who need to be numerate to do their jobs properly make mistakes like this.
Here is our supper expert THH forgetting to take into account that among vaccinated > 50% had an infection already and 80% are protected by common corona infections.
Two Wyttenfacts in one sentence!
More ivermectin bullshit for the media, I'm sure our vaccine warriors will jump on this, but wait!
Ivermectin causes sterilization in 85 percent of men, study finds
Does Ivermectin Cause Sterility in Men?
One study purportedly found that 85% of men who were given the anti-parasitic were sterile following the research period.
Context
The study in question was not published in a credible journal, nor was it hosted by an accredited, reputable institution. In the decade since the study’s supposed 2011 publication, there has been little — if any — related research to confirm its findings. Furthermore, a spokesperson for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration told Snopes that infertility in men is not a known side effect of ivermectin and, as such, is not included in U.S. labeling requirements.
Two Wyttenfacts in one sentence!
Thank's so you agree to just be comedian... what is confirmed by your ridiculous HCQ post...
he probably thinks Zelenko's real world data (from a very young Orthodox Jewish catchment area) showing lower than typical hospital admissions is evidence in favour of HCQ working?
Yes only babies have been treated and the older ones silently got Ivermectin or a religious gen therapy....
