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    Quote from JedRothwell

    There are no examples of ivermectin working. All of the double-blind tests have been marginal or negative.

    This is the new mantra of the USA fascist = free masons.


    Obviously you did leave science a long time ago...Do you have a reading disability?


    Quote from Zephir_AWT

    Sometimes I think, that Covid-19 pandemics was planned and carefully designed for to vindicate just m-RNA model.

    Absolutely correct. The US lab did the AIDS add-ons and transported the loaded virus to China for animal testing. The mRNA gen therapeutic vaccines have been patented at the same time around 2017. The only missing understanding was teh shocking Ivermectin.., HCQ...and cross immunity.

    Typical cricket brains at work.

    Covid is now endemic. Vaccine mandates are not needed !!!


    Up to 90% of Americans may have some form of Covid immunity after delta wave, Dr. Gottlieb says


    Up to 90% of Americans may have some form of Covid immunity after delta wave, Dr. Gottlieb says
    The former FDA chief said the U.S. will never achieve "true herd immunity," but new cases will still decline sharply due to vaccines and prior infection.
    www.cnbc.com


    KEY POINTS

    Up to 90% of U.S. residents may have some form of immunity protection against Covid by the time the delta variant wave passes, according to Dr. Scott Gottlieb.

    While the virus will not just disappear, the former FDA chief said it will spread less effectively and prevalence will decline.


    Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CNBC's Jim Cramer on Monday he believes up to 90% of U.S. residents will have some form of immunity protection against the coronavirus by the time the delta variant wave passes.


    In an interview on "Mad Money," the former Food and Drug Administration commissioner said reaching that amount of coverage is important, even if the country never fully eradicates the disease.

    I'm optimistic that we're peaking in Covid for the grim truth that the delta wave is so pervasive and infecting so many people that on the back end of this we're going to have immunity in, at least, 85%, maybe 90% of the population," Gottlieb said. "Some will have acquired that immunity through vaccination. Some will have acquired that immunity through infection. Some will have been both vaccinated and infected."


    As a result, Gottlieb said the highly transmissible delta variant — which currently accounts for nearly all new U.S. infections — will no longer spread from person to person as effectively.


    "On the back end of this, you're going to have so much immunity in the population that the virus isn't going away — I don't think we're going to reach true herd immunity where this just disappears — but it's certainly not going spread at the kind of levels we're seeing right now," Gottlieb told Cramer. "The prevalence will decline."


    Gottlieb, who now serves on the board of Covid vaccine maker Pfizer, said he expects infection rates to decline substantially around Thanksgiving, "barring something unforeseen" such as a new coronavirus variant that pierces prior immunity.


    There have been roughly 43 million confirmed coronavirus infections in the U.S. since the pandemic began early last year, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. However, experts say that's likely an undercount because not every person who is actually infected gets tested and shows up as an official Covid case.

    Currently, 213.66 million people in the U.S., or 64.4% of the population, have received at least one Covid vaccine dose, according to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data.


    Only Americans ages 12 and up are currently eligible to receive a Covid shot, but Pfizer's two-dose vaccine may soon receive emergency use authorization from the FDA for those ages 5 to 11 after the company's clinical trials showed it generated a "robust" immune response. Pfizer is also studying the vaccine in kids under age 5, but data will take a bit longer to collect.


    Moderna, which produces a vaccine that uses the same technology as Pfizer, is also conducting trials on its effectiveness in children. The company has said it could apply for emergency clearance with the FDA possibly by year-end.


    Gottlieb has said vaccinating kids against Covid is an important step in turning the tides of the pandemic for reasons that include allowing vaccinated parents to worry less about bringing the virus home and making an unprotected child sick.

    Quote from Fm1

    Gottlieb defended the vaccine, declaring that no one can be certain how long immunity will last, if a third jab will lead to longer immunity, or perhaps, whether the Pfizer vaccine regimen could evolve into an annual flu shot-like scenario.

    This point of view is a pure commercial one!


    Basic medical knowledge just forbids to fight a virus with antibodies only. This can and should only be done with a short time antibody therapy.

    The Swiss company that did develop the first commercial antibody cocktail had along discussion about how to remove the excess anti-bodies after therapy. It is a fact that the immune system always eliminates most antibodies after an infection and only a minimum is circulating in the bodies diverse systems. The antibodies are like the smoke detector that rings the bell, what causes a ramp up of diverse antibody reproduction.


    All this does not work work with gene therapy. The remaining antibodies never fit a new virus the reproduction is minimal and due to misfit causes ADE. This ADE effect is already overwhelming visible in UK data. As papers do show. Booster make things even worse.


    Once you got a gene therapy (Pfizer, ASTRA-Oxford,Moderna) you can only wait until the antibodies wane to avoid ADE. ADE will make you gradually sick over the coming years if you cannot get rid of the excess spike antibodies.

    Quote from Fm1

    Gottlieb has said vaccinating kids against Covid is an important step in turning the tides of the pandemic for reasons that include allowing vaccinated parents to worry less about bringing the virus home and making an unprotected child sick.

    This is an outraging criminal making money with kids that have 0 risk from CoV-19.

    Chairman disbands panel investigating COVID-19's origins, saying its links to a nonprofit that worked with a Chinese lab raises bias concerns


    COVID-19: panel studying origins disbanded over bias concerns
    Jeffrey Sachs, the chairman of a task force probing COVID-19's origins, told WSJ he was concerned about the panel's links to EcoHealth Alliance.
    www.businessinsider.com


    A Lancet-affiliated scientist panel studying the origins of COVID-19 has been disbanded.

    The chairman of the panel told WSJ he was concerned about its links to EcoHealth Alliance.

    EcoHealth Alliance has been facing scrutiny over its connection to an institute in Wuhan.


    A task force of scientists investigating the origins of COVID-19 has been disbanded by Columbia University professor Jeffrey Sachs.


    The Wall Street Journal reported that it was due to the task force's links with US nonprofit EcoHealth Alliance, which worked with the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Sachs said this risked the perception of bias, according to the outlet.


    New York-based EcoHealth Alliance focuses on research and has been subjected to intense scrutiny since the onset of the pandemic.


    Sachs told the Wall Street Journal of his motivation behind dissolving the task force..

    "I just didn't want a task force that was so clearly involved with one of the main issues of this whole search for the origins, which was EcoHealth Alliance," he said.


    There is still no conclusive evidence that coronavirus may have originated from a lab, or that it transferred to humans from a wild animal, or another scientific research experiment.


    EcoHealth Alliance has channeled some of its funding towards the institute, which involved collecting samples from bats and people at risk of infection from bat viruses, The Telegraph previously reported.


    That grant was stopped in April 2020 on the orders of then president Trump but was reinstated later in the year, the outlet said.

    Daszak led the task force, affiliated with the Lancet scientific journal, until he voluntarily withdrew from the role in June. He has insisted there is no evidence to support the lab-leak theory.


    Some other members of the task force have worked with Daszak or EcoHealth alliance on projects, the WSJ reported. One member said the disbanded group does not have conflicts of interest that stand in the way of its means to assess data on how the virus jumped to humans.


    Sachs told the WSJ that the Lancet COVID-19 Commission would continue to study the origins in a report due to be published in mid-2022. But the commission would widen its scope to include input on biosafety concerns from external experts, including government oversight and transparency on lab research.


    He said more labs have the technology to recreate or construct new viruses, but guidance and regulation on safe experimentation aren't keeping pace.

    "A lot is going on around the world that is not properly scrutinized or explained to the public," Sachs said. The professor isn't supporting any one theory over another about the origins of COVID-19, he added.


    The Lancet task force had been chasing leads on both the natural spillover from an animal and lab-leak hypotheses, WSJ said.

    Experts: COVID-19 Will Resemble Common Cold by Spring 2022


    Experts: COVID-19 Will Resemble Common Cold by Spring 2022
    "We already live with four different human coronaviruses that we don't really ever think about very much and eventually SARS-CoV-2 will become one of those."
    legalinsurrection.com


    Legal Insurrection was among the first to inform our readers of the COVID outbreak in China on January 10, 2020.

    Less than two months later, I reported that Chinese researchers linked the coronavirus outbreak to laboratory research activities in Wuhan, China. Despite the initial media-led push-back on a lab origin for the coronavirus, officials are now agreeing that lab origin is both possible and probable.


    Most recently, I concluded that based on the history of the last global coronavirus pandemic of 1889, SARS-CoV-2 (the virus causing the current COVID-19 pandemic) would eventually morph into one of the many viruses in the common cold family.


    Now there is more proof that Legal Insurrection has been ahead of the coronavirus pandemic news. Professor Sir John Bell, regius professor of medicine at Oxford University, recently said the virus could resemble the common cold by spring next year as vaccines and exposure boost a person’s immunity to the virus.


    He added the country “is over the worst” and things “should be fine” once winter has passed, adding that there was continued exposure to the virus even in people who are vaccinated.Meanwhile, Moderna’s chief executive Stéphane Bancel also said on Monday that the coronavirus pandemic could be over in a year as increased vaccine production ensures global supplies.


    Additionally, Professor Dame Sarah Gilbert, the creator of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, asserts that COVID-19 is unlikely to mutate into a deadlier variant and will eventually end up as a common cold.


    Cutting down fears of a more deadly new variant, she said that viruses tend to “become less virulent as they circulate” through the population, Daily Mail reported.”There is no reason to think we will have a more virulent version of SARS-CoV-2″, as “there aren’t very many places for the virus to go to have something that will evade immunity but still be a really infectious virus”, Gilbert was quoted as saying….SARS-CoV-2 will eventually become like the coronaviruses which circulate widely and cause the common cold, Gilbert said.”We already live with four different human coronaviruses that we don’t really ever think about very much and eventually SARS-CoV-2 will become one of those,” said Gilbert, while speaking at a seminar of the Royal Society of Medicine


    While this is good news, it must be tempered by the reality that public health officials are now used to both the limelight and copious funding.


    On Wednesday, she told the audience that she is “waiting” for funding to look into vaccines for other infectious diseases.


    Work must be done to prepare for future pandemics, she warned, adding that small amounts of investment now could potentially save billions of pounds in the long run.[Dame Sarah Gilbert] agreed that the lack of investment from governments and other research funding sources shows they have not learned lessons about the importance of pandemic preparedness.“We’re still trying to raise funds to develop other vaccines that we were working on before the pandemic against diseases that have caused outbreaks in the past and will cause outbreaks in the future – Nipah virus, lassa fever virus and Mers coronavirus were three that I’m working on and still trying to raise funds to work on.”


    I believe that we would benefit from more focus on treatments for COVID19, as well as more controls on where the National Institute of Health decides to fund studies…especially those involving gain-of-function research.

    General CoV-19 news from data.


    As the study of the last three wave reveals we can make the following conclusion:


    Increase in R value: For this you have to take the natural logarithm between low/high peak of a long time statistics.


    The ratio of gamma to alpha is 2:1


    The ratio of delta to gamma is 3:1! (corrected..)


    Neither vaccines nor any other measures had any influence on the pandemic other than just prolongate the wave. This is obvious as now the vaccinated get CoV-19 at a much higher rate than the unvaccinated. UK is outstanding as here the worst vaccines have been given with ongoing damage. UK is the only country with no decline of the delta wave.


    On the other side of the extreme is Sweden. The broad immunization due to no restrictions did lead to a tiny Delta wave only.


    In all countries the delta wave is flattening out now. The future will be treating the gene therapy ("vaccine") damaged people.

    R is overblown weapon for the vaccine warriors, it's been a Huxley mantra since January to promote vaccines. How can you fix an r value when studies have shown infections 6-10 times higher than reported and in some studies out of India even higher. Those cases go undetected with little to no hospitalization or mortality. Covid is endemic!

    There is an other totally failing tiny India state Mizoram (about 1.1 mio) that used ASTRA/Oxford for early vaccination. This state has the highest case load and sick population thanks to vaccination into the pandemic.

    #IndiaFightsCorona COVID-19
    www.mygov.in


    Despite all negative experience with vaccines India is going on with the vaccination in states that have 0 CoV-19 now. Why these monkeys decide to vaccinate Uttar Pradesh now can only be explained by criminal greed. UP has > 80% immunity from natural infection. Vaccines that not fit thus can only add damage due to ADE.


    On the happy side I can only note that the self extinction of all these idiots did already lead to a reduction of Swiss health care costs!


    If "we are lucky.." then CoV-19 + vaccines will lead to significant reduction in population soon.

    Quote from Fm1

    Dr Paul Merick, the most published peer reviewed critical care Dr. of all time, will make any doubting Thomas look quite foolish.

    Or maybe not...


    2 fringe doctors created the myth that ivermectin is a 'miracle cure' for COVID-19 — whipping up false hope that could have deadly consequences
    Dr. Paul Marik and Dr. Pierre Kory are two of the most well-known ivermectin promoters around. They've formed a group of doctors called the FLCCC.
    www.businessinsider.com


    Marik, originally from South Africa, is the other doctor heading up the FLCCC. He is less vocal in podcasts and on social media than Kory. But he and Kory appear to have agreed on an unproven treatment that touts cheap, widely available drugs as miracle solutions to complex illness before.


    Marik presented the so-called Marik protocol in a 2017 edition of the journal Chest. At the time, other doctors were skeptical of his idea that a simple combination of the steroid hydrocortisone, vitamin C, and vitamin B1 (thiamine), could put an end to sepsis, which happens (often in older or immunocompromised adults) when otherwise innocuous infections turn deadly.


    The Marik protocol was deemed useless after a large, global randomized controlled trial in 2020. It doesn't work. But Marik had been so vocal about touting it that many patients and doctors around the world tried it out before it was properly debunked. Kory started his own clinical trial of the Marik protocol at the University of Wisconsin in 2019, a "retrospective chart review" that never posted results.


    "Of course it doesn't work," Walker, the ER doctor, said. "All the ICU doctors I knew were like, 'Ah, this does not make any sense — how does thiamine and vitamin C drop mortality?'"


    Marik has also been reprimanded by the Virginia Board of Medicine for prescribing drugs to people who weren't his patients. When Insider reached out to Eastern Virginia Medical School requesting an interview with Marik about his ivermectin recommendations at the FLCCC, a spokesperson said "Dr. Marik does not speak on this matter as a representative of EVMS and therefore we cannot assist you with this request."

    Quote from Wyttenbach

    This is obvious as now the vaccinated get CoV-19 at a much higher rate than the unvaccinated.

    This might be an outcome of actual data, but doesn't change the fact, that unvaccinated fill the ICU's at a factor of at least 3x more vs vaccinated...and that is what the vaccines are made for: prevent serious illness (= occupy ICU beds) and death.

    Quote from Wyttenbach

    UP has > 80% immunity from natural infection. Vaccines that not fit thus can only add damage due to ADE.


    Those detailed and accurate ONS figures: real-world data, no assumptions needed because of detailed timeline followup of random sample of population:


    vaccine / natural immunity from infection about the same, vaccines winning a bit (though caveat is maybe much of the natural immunity was from alpha - it is likely catching delta will give you better protection against delta).


    vaccination after infection gives double the protection (half the infection rate) of just infection.


    You have to be very weird indeed to think those detailed results with careful methodology are somehow a plot to kill the world with non-working vaccines.


    But, then, it seems this thread has at least 1 very weird person...

    Quote from Fm1

    R is overblown weapon for the vaccine warriors, it's been a Huxley mantra since January to promote vaccines. How can you fix an r value when studies have shown infections 6-10 times higher than reported and in some studies out of India even higher. Those cases go undetected with little to no hospitalization or mortality. Covid is endemic!

    Fm1 - do you have any evidence to support this?


    I've been negative about effect of vaccines on R value ever since delta (when vaccines were less effective and delta R value was higher anyway).


    You do make comments that i find difficult to reconcile with the facts.


    But as for "how can you fix an R value" in the UK we have good random sample household infection sampling. We know R value to quite good precision. And we know that over the last 2 months, in spite of no lockdown, almost no masks, schools back, our infection rate has stayed stable., R ~ 1.


    That is because, unlike last year when delta caused massive increase in infections, we have a very highly vaccinated population.

    Evaluating the massive underreporting and undertesting of COVID-19 cases in multiple global epicenters
    With continuous global COVID-19 outbreak, differing case numbers and mortality rates are observed. While actual case numbers appear vague, mortality numbers…
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov


    Evaluating the massive underreporting and undertesting of COVID-19 cases in multiple global epicenters

    Vaccination is not Mandatory in Canada. So why are some Canadian Employers Mandating Vaccination for Workers?


    Vaccination is not Mandatory in Canada. So why are some Canadian Employers Mandating Vaccination for Workers?
    Note that views expressed in this opinion article are the writer’s personal views and not necessarily those of TrialSite.Way back during the last century
    trialsitenews.com



    Dr-Ron-Brown

    September 28, 2021


    Note that views expressed in this opinion article are the writer’s personal views and not necessarily those of TrialSite.


    Way back during the last century in 1996 (feeling old?), Health Canada, under advisement from the National Immunization Advisory Committee, released the Canadian National Report on Immunization, 1996. The report stated that “unlike some countries, immunization is not mandatory in Canada; it cannot be made mandatory because of the Canadian Constitution.” This vaccination policy has remained in effect across Canada continuously, up to several months before the COVID-19 pandemic. For example, on a webpage updated as late as April 18, 2019, Immunize Canada reiterated that “Immunization is not mandatory in Canada,” with the notable exception of mandated immunizations in school children from Ontario and New Brunswick who were allowed medical and “ideological” exemptions. Members of Immunize Canada include the Canadian Medical Association, Public Health Ontario, and the Council of Chief Medical Officers of Health. Recently, the reinterpretation of Canada’s vaccination policy has seemed to have reversed 180 degrees as some Canadian employers are now mandating vaccination for employees in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Yet, the Canadian Constitution has not changed, implying that the changed policy is no longer aligned with the Constitution. What caused this change, and is the new policy unconstitutional?


    The Government of Ontario, in Canada’s largest province, released a guide to help organizations develop a COVID-19 workplace safety plan. To help control spread of infection, the guide mentions screening procedures, physical distancing, and COVID-19 vaccines, which “may supplement, but should not replace, any workplace controls.” At no time were vaccine mandates mentioned in this guide.


    Another Ontario guide for organizations on COVID-19 vaccines and workplace health and safety mentions that “the goal of Ontario’s COVID-19 vaccination plan is for everyone in Ontario to be able to get a COVID-19 vaccination if they want one.” The guide further states that if a vaccination plan is developed by an organization, it must consider: “human rights and accessibility, labor and employment law; privacy; health care consent; and occupational health and safety.”


    Vaccination policies were made mandatory by the Ontario Government on August 17, 2021, to help protect vulnerable people in high-risk settings, such as frail seniors, children, and immunocompromised people who are in hospitals and in contact with home and community care service providers. Note that the vaccination policies are mandatory, not the vaccinations themselves, and antigen testing is allowed as an alternative to vaccination.


    So far, Ontario’s Government guidelines for COVID-19 are compliant with Canada’s policy that “immunization is not mandatory in Canada.” But apparently, some employers who think they know better than the government have overstepped their authority and have mandated compulsory vaccination policies for their workers, increasingly without alternatives to antigen testing.


    These rogue employers are causing potential harm and injustices to workers and society to which the workers contribute, coercing workers to disclose their health status without prior consent, and threatening workers to accept unwanted and invasive medical treatments or risk losing their pay or their jobs.


    Feeling little responsibility to protect all workers during COVID-19 and demonstrating their willingness to sacrifice unvaccinated workers for the perceived greater good, these uncaring employers should be held accountable for violating Canada’s immunization policy and disrespecting the Canadian Constitution.

    Quote from THHuxleynew

    Marik presented the so-called Marik protocol in a 2017 edition of the journal Chest. At the time, other doctors were skeptical of his idea that a simple combination of the steroid hydrocortisone, vitamin C, and vitamin B1 (thiamine), could put an end to sepsis, which happens (often in older or immunocompromised adults) when otherwise innocuous infections turn deadly.


    The Marik protocol was deemed useless after a large, global randomized controlled trial in 2020. It doesn't work. But Marik had been so vocal about touting it that many patients and doctors around the world tried it out before it was properly debunked. Kory started his own clinical trial of the Marik protocol at the University of Wisconsin in 2019, a "retrospective chart review" that never posted results.

    So he is 1 for 2 at inventing protocols, or batting .500 as we say in the US. :)


    Seriously; the protocol has been established now for quite some time, and the real world feedback is that almost everyone using it seems to think it works. In the two examples (Peru and Kerala in India) where they initially used it but then opted out, they experienced surges in cases, and deaths.


    A worse case is that if it is later shown to be completely ineffective as Dr Mariks first protocol in 2017, at least it caused no harm. Considering we are in a pandemic that has wrecked economies, and caused untold lives due to the various "cures", we could write the effort off as a reasonable, understandable, and safe attempt to do something. Sure beats waiting at home until your lips turn blue, then going to the hospital.


    And since the protocol includes other items than IVM in the medical kits, the consolation prize would be that at least they got their Vitamins.

    Quote from JedRothwell

    That is incorrect. Influenza mutates much faster than COVID. Also, the COVID vaccine does a better job of targeting all existing variants than flu vaccines do. There are many different variants of influenza circulating. The vaccines given every year only prevent four varieties of the flu, and others circulate. Four is the most they can cover. Researchers have to guess which four are most likely to circulate months or a year ahead of time, when vaccine production begins. They do not always guess correctly.

    Are you sure?


    HEALTH AND SCIENCE

    WHO says Covid will mutate like the flu and is likely here to stay

    WHO says Covid will mutate like the flu and is likely here to stay
    Covid-19 could become endemic like the flu and circulate in the population at low levels.
    www.cnbc.com

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