Perhaps these are a very quiet 8
"Eight members of NIH's COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel
8 out of 54
"
The COVID-19 treatment guidelines are "based on published and preliminary data
and the clinical expertise of the panelists, many of whom are frontline clinicians caring
for patients during the rapidly evolving pandemic."
Fauci is not listed on the NIH financial disclosure form."
that's the way it works..
After the next election there may be a blowtorch applied to the NIH
He did write that, in the message above that I quoted: "its going to spread all over the place with no way to stop it."
Perhaps he was quoting someone. Anyway, various people have said that. The W.H.O. has not said anything like that. They said the opposite in February. Countries that listened to them and employed the methods they recommended were able to contain the virus, so obviously they were rigyou'r
I would like to think your right jed but your using incomplete math, this virus event is on going.
how long will this last on our opinion ?
Only highly profitable very expensive drugs or vaccines are acceptable --
Why Won't They Listen?
https://www.pressreader.com/au…/20200812/281745566741450
Half of Moderna’s coronavirus vaccine owned by NIH
https://www.sgtreport.com/2020…irus-vaccine-owned-by-nih
Latest Peak Prosperity Video: Do Kids Spread Covid-19?
Excerpt (video time = 21:35): "Yet another positive data point for the use of ivermectin as one
approach to fighting COVID-19. Will the Western press care? No, they won't - not when there's
$3,000 vials of Remdesivir to hawk, guaranteed."
Lockdowns - How much longer?
Lockdown supporters cannot bear the thought that Sweden has got it right
An honest appraisal of how the Scandinavian country has fared raises plenty of awkward
questions for politicians in the rest of Europe
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne…ght-sweden-has-got-right/
Sweden COVID-19 Death Rate Lower Than Spain, Italy and U.K., Despite Never Having Lockdown
https://www.newsweek.com/swede…r-having-lockdown-1522306
Sky News Australia questions entire Covid narrative, lockdowns, disease severity, economic costs, ...
Australians are terrified as ‘draconian’ measures continue: Alan Jones
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Where are the full data for the Gilead trial?
They will never publish Remdesivir trial data before they made at least 5 Billions (same as with Tamiflu!) . Otherwise it's use would immediately stop due to fake arguments of shortening hospital time what is completely wrong for dying patients. Dying on Gilead crap Remdesivir will make your children poor man because you will die 7-10 day longer... what will cost (USA) at least 50'000$ - just for care only!
Gilead: You live longer...
Let me rahash this again as people mishandles statistics all over the place.
1. cases is worthless as a comparison measure.
2. you need per capita comparisons
3. deaths and icu are very good measures of how hard hot a country is
4. total deaths is not a good measure of the methods used to fight it.
No one on earth seam to be able to compare countries to see if method A was better then method B in the initial phase. The
reason is that no one calculates the initial number of infected, models the R0 and from that start to compare countries. Not doing
that means that comparisons are bogus. Sweden could have compared worse than Belgium because Belgium got a higher initial
load and could have a higher R0, or Sweden could have managed as well as the other Nordic countries because the other countries
Had a different initial load and a different R0. I suspect that tracking in Norway would have saved them from 0-50% but they would
not have done well with the swedish outbreak because it was probably overwhelming.
No what we can see is that with Covid-19 we can never relax, never end working from home, never end social distancing. Until vaccine comes around.
We will open up the rest of the schools now and people are very careful on doing it right. One thing authorities now realize is that one have to explicitly tell the well paid bosses in the
lower levels to take responsibility to implement the general rules as good as possible. This means that if the teacher is 63 then the teaching will
be done remotely. They schedules school so that they do not cause to much crowding in the buses, make sure the corridors are not filled with students when
the classes ends. In all very different from when they tried to secure the elderly care where they never explicitly stated the responsibility and the lower bosses
failed to implement correct measures or ask for help if they had not enough resources. Well see soon if it is enough. It's scary as we know the younger people
cares less and less and cases goes up now in age 20-29
No what we can see is that with Covid-19 we can never relax, never end working from home, never end social distancing. Until vaccine comes around.
Why?? Influenza is as bad as CoV-19 if we look at mortality and there is no medication that helps.
For CoV-19 we have 2 working cheap combinations and even cheaper first aid supplements like (red bitter orange juice) that help.
Currently the Zuerich area has little surge in cases and did catch up with Geneva. Both are airport regions Zuerich is a huge high school university spot.
But what counts?? Deaths about 1/week /ICU cases? in average 5....
To compare: The Swiss death toll for slippery soap is about 200/year or the same as CoV-19 currently. Shall we start to bad soap or all soap products ??
Many people are simply crazy as they do believe being able to live in total control. We see the same in terrorism counter fight. 15'000 Americans shot by "friends" and may be 1% by terrorists...
We have to learn to live with CoV-19 at least for the next 2-3 years. And a vaccination is only needed for the folks with the 2-3% rare gen variation that causes the cytokine storm.
We soon will have better tests based on a single blood drop with minute response and of course the doctors will learn to prescribe the correct drugs what will make CoV-19 a mild cold.
Why?? Influenza is as bad as CoV-19 if we look at mortality
No.
And a vaccination is only needed for the folks with the 2-3% rare gen variation that causes the cytokine storm.
Can you send any research understanding/evidence about this gen variation?
I have said that I don’t trust official Chinese data, as the CCP regime has a fear based control of everything published, In order to avoid the party ever looking as incompetent or bad in any way.
This is a report that points once again to the cover up, but this whistle blower has a different point of view on the origin of the virus.
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3981833
Can you send any research understanding/evidence about this gen variation?
I somewhere linked a public journal page.
Basically the gen upregulates the expression of the ACE2 receptor what is good e.g. against influenza and other virus as it promotes a stronger immune response. But here it presents more entry points for CoV-19.
Here some references I found:
Overview: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/3663
Some details : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p…0732/pdf/FSB2-9999-na.pdf
https://www.biorxiv.org/conten…0.07.23.218198v2.full.pdf
Asian people are significant carriers.
To find the exact paper may be you should look for "upregulates the expression of the ACE2 receptor".
An analysis of the social/political/financial motives driving the Covid response --
No guts, no glory
Does an Australian gastro legend hold the key to curing Covid?
https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/08/no-guts-no-glory/
Excerpt: ... The two main reasons that doctors aren’t yet prescribing ivermectin and doxycycline for Covid-19 are, first, that medical litigation has created an ultra-cautious culture even when there is virtually no risk, and second, doctors are mostly imprisoned in the prevailing paradigm which holds that there is no effective treatment to cure Covid-19 and that the only way out of Australia’s pandemic penitentiary is a vaccine. That’s a message that is promoted by powerful pharmaceutical companies who hope to make a motza out of expensive patented medicine and who would make nothing from a cheap generic cure.
... This ‘hydroxy hysteria’ as Trump’s trade advisor Peter Navarro calls it, has been adopted holus bolus by the ABC. However, it’s not just ‘hydroxy hatred’ that is a dogma on the Left; merely to seek a cure is, as a fellow at the Australian Defence Force Academy told the ABC, ‘an individualistic solution’ which appeals to those on the right, in opposition to ‘more left-leaning values around social responsibility.’ It’s a ‘quick fix, a magic cure’ for the ‘problem’ of the virus, he says, not ‘a social solution that implies we have to work together’ — with government —‘to address larger, more complex, and interrelated issues in society to battle the disease.’ In this toxic environment ....
Deaths due to COVID misinformation
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-53755067
As vaccines emerge, there is the further threat that anti-vaccine campaigners will use the platform provided by social media to persuade people not to protect themselves.
Despite social media companies removing or labelling misleading information about vaccines, recent polling in the United States showed that 28% of Americans believe that Bill Gates wants to use vaccines to implant microchips in people.
The achievement of an effective coronavirus vaccine could be completely undermined by misinformation, doctors told the BBC's anti-disinformation team.
Bill Gates wants to use vaccines to implant microchips in people?
QAnon takes over Congress?
How about campaigning for truth and against twisted conspiracy theories? It may not be trendy in the weird 2020s, but it sure is necessary!
THH
Display MoreAn analysis of the social/political/financial motives driving the Covid response --
No guts, no glory
Does an Australian gastro legend hold the key to curing Covid?
https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/08/no-guts-no-glory/
Excerpt: ... The two main reasons that doctors aren’t yet prescribing ivermectin and doxycycline for Covid-19 are, first, that medical litigation has created an ultra-cautious culture even when there is virtually no risk, and second, doctors are mostly imprisoned in the prevailing paradigm which holds that there is no effective treatment to cure Covid-19 and that the only way out of Australia’s pandemic penitentiary is a vaccine. That’s a message that is promoted by powerful pharmaceutical companies who hope to make a motza out of expensive patented medicine and who would make nothing from a cheap generic cure.
... This ‘hydroxy hysteria’ as Trump’s trade advisor Peter Navarro calls it, has been adopted holus bolus by the ABC. However, it’s not just ‘hydroxy hatred’ that is a dogma on the Left; merely to seek a cure is, as a fellow at the Australian Defence Force Academy told the ABC, ‘an individualistic solution’ which appeals to those on the right, in opposition to ‘more left-leaning values around social responsibility.’ It’s a ‘quick fix, a magic cure’ for the ‘problem’ of the virus, he says, not ‘a social solution that implies we have to work together’ — with government —‘to address larger, more complex, and interrelated issues in society to battle the disease.’ In this toxic environment ....
just for curiousity, this articel is dated 15. Aug. 2020, but today is 12. Aug. (MEZ)
Isn't that strange?
Display MoreAn analysis of the social/political/financial motives driving the Covid response --
No guts, no glory
Does an Australian gastro legend hold the key to curing Covid?
https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/08/no-guts-no-glory/
Excerpt: ... The two main reasons that doctors aren’t yet prescribing ivermectin and doxycycline for Covid-19 are, first, that medical litigation has created an ultra-cautious culture even when there is virtually no risk, and second, doctors are mostly imprisoned in the prevailing paradigm which holds that there is no effective treatment to cure Covid-19 and that the only way out of Australia’s pandemic penitentiary is a vaccine. That’s a message that is promoted by powerful pharmaceutical companies who hope to make a motza out of expensive patented medicine and who would make nothing from a cheap generic cure.
... This ‘hydroxy hysteria’ as Trump’s trade advisor Peter Navarro calls it, has been adopted holus bolus by the ABC. However, it’s not just ‘hydroxy hatred’ that is a dogma on the Left; merely to seek a cure is, as a fellow at the Australian Defence Force Academy told the ABC, ‘an individualistic solution’ which appeals to those on the right, in opposition to ‘more left-leaning values around social responsibility.’ It’s a ‘quick fix, a magic cure’ for the ‘problem’ of the virus, he says, not ‘a social solution that implies we have to work together’ — with government —‘to address larger, more complex, and interrelated issues in society to battle the disease.’ In this toxic environment ....
The problem I have with this is that it is a social science response to a scientific problem.
HCQ, ivermectin, etc - they work or they don't. There are definite answers which we will at some point know -it is just we have partial info at the moment.
I agree - the info is partial - the establishment may be wrong.
I disagree - therefore we should do the opposite of what the establishment says because they are left wing influenced and, hey, we know that is wrong.
THH
Isn't that strange?
Preprint? Oztime?
More news from Oz.. a bit old from an old timer
"
However, in my reading around the topic of immunity and specifically preventing viral infections, I have found sufficient, albeit not overwhelming evidence that certain compounds may help bolster immunity. So I am taking daily doses of Vitamin C, zinc, quercetin and elderberry. While not conclusive, I believe the pros outweigh the cons given the side effects are virtually non-existent.
Peter Brukner is a sport and exercise medicine physician and Professor of Sports Medicine at La Trobe University"
burpees and squats sound painful to me.. a slow walk with the dog is my style... the number of beer cans and sweetened spirits(vodka, bourbon) cans along the way appears to be increasing
From "America's voice" with chinese subtitles
Brutal opinion from Dr Li Meng Yan about Chinese vaccines TM 37.44
CCP China has never developed useful vaccines..
just copypaste..
so maybe Covid was a copypaste accident..not intentional 'weaponisation" but just plain stupid.
17C Hanlon."never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
In the pipeline is my fave science blog for following COVID matters. Some recent articles.
Monoclonal antibodies look good as treatment - but a long way still to go:
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/p…body-cocktail-in-primates
Novavax looks good so far as a vaccine candidate:
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/p…vaccine-data-from-novavax
Biopharma stock cults (investors beware!)
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/p…cults-and-the-coronavirus
The russian vaccine announcement was a pitiful PR stunt:
Display MoreIn the pipeline is my fave science blog for following COVID matters. Some recent articles.
Monoclonal antibodies look good as treatment - but a long way still to go:
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/p…body-cocktail-in-primates
Novavax looks good so far as a vaccine candidate:
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/p…vaccine-data-from-novavax
Biopharma stock cults (investors beware!)
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/p…cults-and-the-coronavirus
The russian vaccine announcement was a pitiful PR stunt:
About the Russian vaccine, the bolded text is exactly what I thought.
Something else to consider; with the early, extraordinary measures NZ/Hawaii took, their unique geography, and still the virus still took hold.
Americold has a good cold supply chain for food, vitamins (and Covid )to customers around the world?
"Americold Customers,
As the coronavirus 2019 (COVID-19) outbreak continues to evolve, I’d like to address the steps
we are taking to keep people safe and healthy and protect the integrity of the supply chain. We
are closely monitoring the situation and following guidance from the CDC and WHO."
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/…?c_id=1&objectid=12356242
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wasn't the virus supposed to be Chinese?
