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Sorry for the "ccn" typo...

You can read the same in daily-mail uk...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne…ronavirus-cremations.html

As always: We can only draw conclusion from the mall number of facts we have. WHO is not yet on site: Why?? - planned to happen this week - normally happens within days. Local bloggers posting images - piles of body bags upfront - from crematoria have been arrested why ??

For me an new question arises: Is the corona virus we see in Europe/Japan really the same one that is at work in Wuhan? According to CDC they tightly monitor corona since 2018 and there is not much reason to believe its now more infectious than the 2018 version. Still more questions than answers.

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Because the Daily Mail is such a bastion of journalistic rigour.

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Because the Daily Mail is such a bastion of journalistic rigour.

May be you should learn how press works today. Less that 1% of the journals are allowed to publish without censorship of the financing body. US, UK and some other countries have a patriot act in place that allows too send any journalist to prison without any real cause. Countries like Sweden that are entirely controlled by the finance elite (two old families) tightly cooperate with the US, as we now know thanks to the Assange case, where all evidence to arrest Assange has been constructed by intelligence guys (Uncovered by a Swiss investigation..).

Today the main source of serious information is comedy or private blogs of serious persons. Comedy works best in Germany and US as this is an old tradition going back to the middle ages where jesters were the only allowed to question the kings opinion...

In China there is absolutely no free press. Even most private blogs are immediately suppressed, the bloggers arrested what happened to the guy that posted photographs of piled body bags in front of a crematoria.

Todays Chinas "government" is worse than the Stalin/Hitlers regime as the power triad has much more efficient means to control the people. (Do not believe that we are far from this situation...)

Of course the wast amount of counter-information has no quality too, but it is always a good sign of how desperate the "real" situation in Wuhan is.

Chairman Xi = Chairman Mao history repeats.

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Because the Daily Mail is such a bastion of journalistic rigour.

Well it is important to know what Kate and Meghan have been wearing.

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https://www.nature.com/article…39373-7f20a1e088-44567417

Nature article on re-purposing current meds to fight coronavirus

It is marvelous how much they already know about this virus. This shows how much progress has been made in biology:

Characteristics of 2019-nCoV

2019-nCoV is an enveloped, positive-sense, single-stranded RNA beta-coronavirus. Similar to SARS and MERS, the 2019-nCoV genome encodes non-structural proteins (such as 3-chymotrypsin-like protease, papain-like protease, helicase, and RNA-dependent RNA polymerase), structural proteins (such as spike glycoprotein) and accessory proteins (Online Fig. 1).

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I’m reading in the media that The UK has announced a series of strong measures including forcible quarantine as a new policy due to Coronavirus, have you heard anything?

The UK declared an "Imminent threat" which allows the authorities to detain infected people. I heard they were forced to do this because one individual known to be infected threatened to leave quarantine.

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some old molecule (chlorokine, agains paludism) seems to be working

You're probably thinking of chloroquine which as you noted, is an anti-malarial drug (anti plasmodium or paludism) . It's age isn't the issue, understanding how it could be helpful is. In this case, chloroquine has the ability to modulate immune reactions. What it seems to do is to potentiate and enhance the activity of the antiviral drug, remdesivir. See: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0282-0

This research is only in very early stages but looks promising.  

This morning, I heard an interview with NIH's Dr. Anthony Fauci who said a widely available vaccine is more than a year away due to testing requirements, even on fast track, emergency status. 

JedRothwell

You're right, it isn't racist to claim race-dependent traits based on genes, exist. It is however, as you say, despicable to suggest that someone else's misfortune, based on genes, is somehow good for "us."

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It is however, as you say, despicable to suggest that someone else's misfortune, based on genes, is somehow good for "us."

I guess it would be okay to say "lucky for us." Not "good." It was a bad choice of words.

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This morning, I heard an interview with NIH's Dr. Anthony Fauci who said a widely available vaccine is more than a year away due to testing requirements, even on fast track, emergency status.

If hundreds of thousands of people start to die, I expect testing requirements will be pushed aside. Risky, untested vaccines will be given to large numbers of people. I hope that does not happen.

Maybe, The first directive of modern medicine is "first, do no harm." Stage 1 trials, as per Dr. Fauci, take at least 3 months. They determine the probable dose required and some of the major side effects if any. Then, stage 2 trials are 6 months to a year.

There is nothing more urgent than was ebola. I don't have time to check but there was a rapidly developed vaccine and I recall it was deployed "early" but it still took some time. There are now several types: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_vaccine

it is looking like it is not slowing down . 253 more "official" deaths since yesterday and yesterday was "under reported".

Phone calls directly to the crematoriums do not yield numbers but they say that they can only release the ashes to family and they are starting to have trouble finding family members to take the ashes. I wonder if that is because they have left the city or if they have died.

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it is looking like it is not slowing down . 253 more "official" deaths since yesterday and yesterday was "under reported".

Phone calls directly to the crematoriums do not yield numbers but they say that they can only release the ashes to family and they are starting to have trouble finding family members to take the ashes. I wonder if that is because they have left the city or if they have died.

I checked and the increase numbers are:Surge in number of cases and deaths is due for the most part to the adoption of a new diagnosis classification.In conformity with other provinces, starting with Feb. 12 counts, Hubei Province will include the number of clinically diagnosed cases into the number of confirmed cases.Of the 14,840 cases added, 13,332 are due to the new classification while 1,508 are new cases.

Yea, pointing out slight differences in immunity and statistical lethality of a virus between populations isn't racist. But that line is quite thin once you start implimenting generalised policies based on these potencial facts. Sadly it is possible to ethnically target pathogens. Praying this isn't the case.

Strengthening Your Immune Response to Viral Infections (COVID-19)

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It is unlikely that Chinese people are significantly more susceptible to any form of influenza than other modern, exposed, cosmopolitan groups, given that influenza always results in a worldwide pandemic nowadays. Race is a nebulous concept with no firm biological basis, but it is an important category in medicine. People know what race and national origin they are from, so they can inform doctors before an exam, which can help.

This is liberal bias, Asians are sensitive to alcohol or lactose intolerance, for example. In October 2003, Tong Zeng, a Chinese lawyer and a volunteer in a 1998 Chinese-American medical cooperation program, also expressed the possibility that the SARS virus was man-made. In his book, Tong disclosed that in the 1990s, many American research groups collected thousands of blood and DNA samples and specimens of mainland Chinese (including 5,000 DNA samples from twins) through numerous joint research projects carried out in China. These samples were then sent back to the United States for further research, only provinces like Yunnan, Guizhou, Hainan, Tibet, and Xinjiang were left out, and all these provinces suffered less severely during the SARS outbreak.The author suspects that Japan is also involved, as many Japanese factories in Guangdong in the 1990s made it compulsory for all workers to have blood tests in the factory annually, rather than asking workers to go to local hospitals for blood tests and a proper physical examination.

Wuhan Institute of Virology Top-level biosafety lab begins work on Jan 17,2018, but Wuhan Institute of Virology has been publishing papers on bat coronaviruses (and humans) for over a decade 1, 2, 3, 4 See for example:

Utilizing the SARS-CoV infectious clone, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild type backbone can efficiently utilize multiple ACE2 receptor orthologs, replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells, and achieve in vitro titres equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV.

Chinese researchers designed virus targeted specially to Asian population in exactly the same way, like Wuhan coronavirus is. See for example study: Single-cell RNA expression profiling of ACE2, the putative receptor of Wuhan 2019-nCov It still affects all ethnicities but concentration of ACE2 in Asian or smokers is like 4-5x than at least African or Caucasian. This lab was particularly prone to that risk. Communist nations have never had good infrastructure for this kind of thing. Just the fact that China's first Biosafety Level 4 lab has been built at the center of industrial city speaks for itself. For example SARS, had an outbreak in 2003. Since then it hasn’t reoccurred in the wild, but there have been six separate incidents of it escaping the lab: one in Singapore, one in Taiwan, and four times at one lab in Beijing. The conclusion therefore is, Covid-19 is artificial chimeric virus, targetted to Asian population - but not as a bioweapon but escaping from lab during particular immunologic research subsidized by USA.

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It is marvelous how much they already know about this virus. This shows how much progress has been made in biology

Because they working with these viruses for at least one decade already..:-) Many coronaviruses similar to Covid-19 were patented. Bill Gates funded the PIRBRIGHT institute, which owns the patent on coronavirus, between others... Gates-funded CEPI granted $9 million to INOVIO to develop coronavirus vaccine, will make big profits. Six weeks before the new Wuhan coronovirus appeared, Bill Gates funded a Coronovirus Pandemic test run meeting in NY. The private event was filmed and has now been leaked.