Covid-19 (WuFlu) News

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    As noted, do not use ibuprofen. A French medical expert said that.

    With due respect, unless there is some evidence for not using it, it does provide relief of pain and lowering of fever. Do you still have the link? I'd like to see why it is claimed to be contraindicated specifically in COVID-19 infections.

  • [There is a long road, which will end with a vaccine.]


    That's dreaming of an UFO that will save the world...

    Again let me point out that every single expert, at the W.H.O. the CDC and every other agency, says that a vaccine will be developed. They differ only in how long they think it will take. They express no doubts at all that it is possible.


    You say it will not happen. Two questions arise: 1. Why not? 2. Are you such an expert in this subject that you know more than all of these experts at major institutions? Tell us about your qualifications, your research, and the papers you have published.


    As I said before, one of the most important lessons of cold fusion is that the experts in a field are usually right, and people outside the field are wrong. Also, amateurs and random Wikipedia editors are wrong. Cold fusion researchers have been portrayed as mavericks, but they are just the opposite. As Fleischmann said, "we are painfully conventional people."

  • lowering of fever

    inflammation and fever are part of the immune defense...

    acetaminophen reduces fever.. ibuprofen reduces both.


    in general , they are not useful for combatting a potentially lethal infectious pathogen..

    Although I might take one for the annoying sinusitis which I regularly get.. I wouldn't risk them with Covid..

  • RAPID RESPONSE PIPELINE FOR STABILIZED SUBUNIT VACCINES
    Keith Chappell, School of Chemistry and Molecular Bioscience, The University of Queensland Australia
    [email protected]

    a vaccine will be developed.

    https://dc.engconfintl.org/cgi…xt=vt_vii&type=additional


    Assuming that the UQ Australia lab are one week into mouse trials

    34-5 =29 weeks to go..til large scale commercial release of vaccine.

  • Positive RT-PCR Test Results in Patients Recovered From COVID-19


    https://archive.is/TpnNV#selection-3353.0-3353.64

    Lan Lan, MD1; Dan Xu, MD1; Guangming Ye, MD2; et al Chen Xia, MS3; Shaokang Wang, MS3; Yirong Li, MD, PhD2; Haibo Xu, MD, PhD1 Author Affiliations |Article Information

    • 1Department of Radiology, Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University, Wuhan, China
    • 2Department of Laboratory Medicine, Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University, Wuhan, China
    • 3Beijing Infervision Technology Co Ltd, Beijing, China

    JAMA. Published online February 27, 2020. doi:10.1001/jama.2020.2783

  • I am still in a contrarian mood, and looks like the New York Times is also:


    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0…on-social-distancing.html


    In essence, they are cracking open the door to a discussion about the social aspects of overreacting to a situation such as COVID19. As they point out, it is a delicate subject, because it factors in the cost of a human life which no one likes to talk about. Giving that some perspective, they point out governments, and we the people, have been doing exactly that for a long time. Yes, there is a price on our heads! Sounds heartless, but one of those facts of life we are all guilty of, but never admit.


    So are we doing more harm, than good by taking these measures? Personally, I think so. By shutting down commerce, schools, borders, to accomplish "social distancing", we will have introduced many other factors into the equation, the impacts of which few have considered. It will likely trigger a worldwide recession, that will cause untold hardships, deaths through suicides, regional conflict, wars, heightened tensions between the superpowers, lowered standard of living...which leads to malnutrition, which leads to more sicknesses, and deaths. In the end, I predict our response will have caused far more deaths, than the disease itself did.


    IMO, this attempt to open up rational dialogue by the NYT's, is too little, too late, We are already too far down that road, to turn back now in a meaningful way. But it should set the stage for the discussion we need for the next time China unleashes another virus on the world. Maybe then, the remedy we decide on, will be less deadly than the disease.

  • oldguy 's link above is truly terrifying:

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    Four patients with COVID-19 who met criteria for hospital discharge or discontinuation of quarantine in China (absence of clinical symptoms and radiological abnormalities and 2 negative RT-PCR test results) had positive RT-PCR test results 5 to 13 days later. These findings suggest that at least a proportion of recovered patients still may be virus carriers.

    [my emphasis]

  • Sober but encouraging and well written article about the promise of remdesivir. https://www.statnews.com/2020/…head-against-coronavirus/


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    Like a bad song clears out a dance floor, remdesivir can clear the viral levels in a person, as long as it can interrupt enough replication. The key, researchers say, is that it has to be delivered somewhat early in an infection, as the virus is still proliferating. In patients who develop severe disease, it’s not the virus that’s always the main problem. The body’s own immune system can react by heading into overdrive and causing secondary complications like organ damage. An antiviral can’t head that off once it’s begun.


    “If you wait to treat someone until they’re in the ICU on a ventilator, it’s too late, you’re not going to do a darn thing,” said Richard Whitley, an infectious disease expert at UAB who coordinates the antiviral consortium.

    That, of course, is still just opinion. The work is just getting off the ground but, as the authors note, it may move fairly fast because toxicity and dose studies were already done for ebola.

  • Again let me point out that every single expert, at the W.H.O. the CDC and every other agency, says that a vaccine will be developed.


    Yes! This is tried since at least 30 years without success or even worse with strong negative outcome. Never bet on an irrational hope! WHO has to tell this as these guys are a part of the mafia that only likes to make the most money possible.


    What do you think they will charge you for a vaccination ??? 1000$ or more like 40'000 as for a Hepatitis cure or 1400$ for a lucent is shot to save you wet macula ????


    Yes, there is a price on our heads! Sounds heartless, but one of those facts of life we are all guilty of, but never admit.


    The problem is that a full lung infection leaves behind a live long damaged lung (reduced capacity) in cases of covid-19 as Japanese researchers just published!


    Why is Italy hit so hard? Exactly the very same reason as Wuhan. Factor 20X above limit smog almost same for north west Germany where the most cases are.


    See Smog map of Europe. ,https://www.nzz.ch/wissenschaf…er-coronakrise-ld.1546699

  • Again let me point out that every single expert, at the W.H.O. the CDC and every other agency, says that a vaccine will be developed. They differ only in how long they think it will take. They express no doubts at all that it is possible.


    You say it will not happen. Two questions arise: 1. Why not? 2. Are you such an expert in this subject that you know more than all of these experts at major institutions? Tell us about your qualifications, your research, and the papers you have published.


    As I said before, one of the most important lessons of cold fusion is that the experts in a field are usually right, and people outside the field are wrong. Also, amateurs and random Wikipedia editors are wrong. Cold fusion researchers have been portrayed as mavericks, but they are just the opposite. As Fleischmann said, "we are painfully conventional people."


    With arguments like this, you are destroying even the last hope of developing a vaccine.


    All the best to you and everybody here on LF.

  • Shane D. I have always been against overreacting but the behaviors of politicians on both sides to of the pond in conservatives strongholds is astonishing. What do you think of a politician calling to get out to restaurants in a mids of what we already experiencing first hand as a worst pandemic in decade?

  • oldguy 's link above is truly terrifying:

    [my emphasis]

    I know this Czech virologist might be just wanting her 5 minutes of fame, but her statements seem cautious enough to be taken seriously, she claims she developed a test that can be used for Covid-19 but is barred from providing the service by the Government.


    She also says that from her analysis of the virus she suspects it was manipulated by humans in a laboratory and probably released accidentally.


    Article google translated from original in Czech.


    https://translate.googleuserco…cjpOE1AHf8uDK6PqRtWMiZEUw

    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.

  • Maybe we can use Prep as an antiviral along with Chloroquine?

    COVID-19 Drug Therapy — Potential Options
    Tim Smith, PharmD, BCPS, and Tony Prosser, PharmD, Clinical Drug Information, Clinical Solutions,
    Elsevier | March 2020
    According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    (CDC), and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), there are currently no medications or vaccines
    proven to be effective for the treatment or prevention of the 2019 severe acute respiratory syndrome
    coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). (1) (2) (3)
    In the absence of an established treatment regimen, the China International Exchange and Promotive
    Association for Medical and Health Care (CPAM) issued a novel 2019 coronavirus disease (COVID-19)
    guideline in February 2020 with recommendations on methodology, epidemiological characteristics,
    disease screening and prevention, diagnosis, treatment and control, nosocomial infection prevention
    and control, and disease nursing. For direct antiviral treatment of SARS-CoV-2, CPAM recommends use
    of lopinavir; ritonavir [2 capsule (dose undefined) by mouth twice daily] in combination with nebulized
    alfa-interferon (5 million units in Sterile Water for Injection inhaled twice daily). CPAM has based this
    recommendation on weak evidence from retrospective cohort, historically controlled studies, case
    reports, and case series that suggest clinical benefit of lopinavir; ritonavir in the treatment of other
    coronavirus infection [i.e., 2002 SARS-CoV and 2012 Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus
    (MERS-CoV)]. (4) (8) (7)
    In addition to CPAM, a group of Korean physicians with experience in treating SARS-CoV-2 infected
    patients have developed recommendations for the treatment of COVID-19. According to these
    physicians, antiviral medications are not recommended for use in young, healthy patients with mild
    symptoms and no underlying comorbid conditions. However, treatment with lopinavir 400 mg; ritonavir
    100 mg (2 tablets by mouth twice daily) or chloroquine (500 mg by mouth twice daily) should be
    considered for use in older patients or patients with under underlying conditions and serious symptoms.
    If chloroquine is unavailable, they recommend considering use of hydroxychloroquine (400 mg by mouth
    once daily). Use of ribavirin and interferon were not recommended as first-line treatments because of
    the risk for side effects; however, use of these medications may be considered if treatment with
    lopinavir; ritonavir, chloroquine, or hydroxychloroquine are ineffective. (12) (13)
    Potential future treatment options

  • A message from my pharmacist...

    Dear $CONTACT_NAME,

    Thank you for your order online with TravelPharm, Manor Pharmacy or Cox-Robinson Pharmacy part of the Manor Drug Company Group.

    It is with sadness that I have to inform you about the cancellation of your order. Recent events relating to the virus COVID-19 have led to an unprecedented surge in demand for Avloclor (Chloroquine Phosphate). Avloclor is an anti malaria drug and only licenced for prevention of malaria. As a group of pharmacies we adhere to the rules and regulations regarding sales of medicines and it is our opinion that we can no longer safely and reliably retail this product online.

    I do sincerely apologise to all customers who have had travel plans disrupted by COVID-19. A refund has been initiated and the funds should arrive back in your account over the next 2-3 working days.

    If you have any questions regarding antimalaria tablets for your destination please see TravelHealthPro for further country specific information

    Following guidance issued the UK government, TravelPharm would strongly advise all travellers to think twice about foreign travel during the ongoing COVID-19 outbreak

    Kind Regards
    TravelPharm

  • This must have been a directive from central government to all UK pharmacies not to distribute chloroquine even for malaria just in case somebody tried to treat themselves or maybe a family member who has the early stages of a coronavirus infection. So not only are they totally negligent about funding any research into new therapies whilst most other countries are, they are also trying to stamp out anyone using what is becoming an almost proven successful remedy? Is this the rise of the fourth Reich?