an unusual approach against the virus for a country
Turkmenistan bans use of word 'coronavirus,' threatens jail for anyone wearing a mask
....the word also was removed from health information brochures distributed in schools, hospitals and workplaces.….
authorities have also forbidden people to wear face masks under the threat of jail time.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/…st-former-soviet-republic
I wonder how that is going to turn out.
Display Morean unusual approach against the virus for a country
Turkmenistan bans use of word 'coronavirus,' threatens jail for anyone wearing a mask
....the word also was removed from health information brochures distributed in schools, hospitals and workplaces.….
authorities have also forbidden people to wear face masks under the threat of jail time.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/…st-former-soviet-republic
I wonder how that is going to turn out.
1% of population die, herd immunity established within 2 months.
Sort of like what was the UK plan (for many years) until, for political reasons, things were changed to suppression without an obvious exit strategy.
So: even though this censorship is horrible, it may go with a brutal but effetcive strategy, and one that many (maybe Shane) would reckon is overall less cost than long lock-in.
Aviptadil
FDA Approves And US Is Ready To Test Trial Medicine To Cure Coronavirus Patents Starting from Next Week
Read more: http://en.yibada.com/articles/…xt-week.htm#ixzz6IOrXdS8b
Announces Plans to Test Aviptadil for Treatment of COVID-induced Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome
http://en.yibada.com/articles/…arting-from-next-week.htm
Israeli-US Drug Gets FDA Approval for Test
There is no arguing this is a bad pandemic. It will get worse.
What I find frustrating is the political bias that some keep pointing about the US (and only certain leaders) and its efforts and praising China! Even though it is becoming clearer that they not only lied and covered up at the beginning, they lied and under reported cases. Possibly by 10 fold. I doubt we really know what the status there is.
https://nypost.com/2020/02/29/…red-cover-up-report-says/
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfr…rse/2020/02/25/id/955645/
While this continued heaping upon certain US leaders, I pondered how the US is doing versus the elite's EU darlings! We have to remember that these countries are smaller than many states and have little to no social variety which causes much problems, both income and living standards wise.
For Example....
Location Population #cases % of population
Texas 28 m 4000 .00014
Netherlands 13 m 13,600 .0008
Sweden 9m 5000 .0005
Denmark 6m 3000 .0005
Germany 83m 76,544 .0009
US total 360m 210,000 . 00058
If we took just two states totals away from the US, (New York and New Jersey), both who have state and city leaders "touted" here by some as being
"true leadership", the US totals would be 105,000 cases or a percentage of .0003. Much lower than most of Europe.
(Yet the states these leaders are responsible for are by far the worse in the US but sometimes touted here)
The US percentage of affected citizens is at or lower than those in most EU countries that we do not hear a peep about because it does not support the bias agenda.
Do not get me wrong. This is bad and is going to get worse. There have been mistakes made and probably more will be made. A country as large and politically divided as the US will be hard to get anything done and the finger pointing comes fast and hard. Those who sit back and smugly state it is obvious what should be done, have never had to get anything done in a political setting is quite evident.
So we should keep touting things are bad... we should keep encouraging proper life styles and sacrifices that need to be made.... we should keep praising those front line workers combating this horror.
We should stop the political jabs UNLESS one is going to jab EVERYONE who is no better. It serves no purpose and is part of the reason why it is so hard to get things done! Just like a travel ban was called early and certain people here stated it was foolish and ignorant! China did not do this....
Well just about every country now HAS done this, including China. Any retractions? I doubt it... it does not fit the agenda.
https://www.usatoday.com/story…e-coronavirus/2918901001/
Lets start more encouraging and supportive dialog versus the arm chair quarter back mud slinging. That does absolutely no good.
But with the above in mind, the US to date is better off than much of Europe as far as percentage of affected population. At least today. Who knows about tomorrow. But if it does get worse, it will be the peoples fault, local leaders fault, state leaders fault and yes, federal leaders fault. There is plenty of blame to spread around and it does not all go to a few people.
PS. This is not an endorsement of the POTUS. It is simply a calling out bias where I see it.
I am getting some reports that food banks are being "swamped". About twice or three times average numbers.
And the lines are getting long with long waiting. so many out of work.
https://abc7ny.com/amp/nyc-foo…al-bank-shortage/6066195/
https://news.yahoo.com/hundred…y-supplies-191433349.html
https://triblive.com/local/pit…o-receive-food-donations/
If we took just two states totals away from the US, (New York and New Jersey), both who have state and city leaders "touted" here by some as being
"true leadership", the US totals would be 105,000 cases or a percentage of .0003. Much lower than most of Europe.
Well, yes, but if you also removed the largest/worst-affected city data from each european death toll...
Looks like Fake News has metastasised into Fake Stats these days
The effective concentration of ciclesonide to block SARS-CoV-2 (the cause of COVID-19) replication (EC90) was 6.3 μM.
6.3 micro molar =6300 nanomolar
I had a look at this before..ciclenoside.. my wife uses it as Alvesco... inhaler.. 1 puff per day
the therapeutic concentration for repressing the body's asthma symptoms was 0.81 nanoMolar..
I think Japan is doing a clinical trial of the puffer.. they might need to do injections rather than many puffs..
So: even though this censorship is horrible, it may go with a brutal but effetcive strategy, and one that many (maybe Shane) would reckon is overall less cost than long lock-in.
I like to think of it as being compassionately brutal. Maybe I should have been a dictator..huh? 
Seriously, it does not have to be brutal. HCQ + seems to be working very well, and within the next few weeks may alter the whole dynamics of this...both politically and medically. There are other drugs/combos that are working, and more will follow. The medical establishments in all developed countries grow better by the day at treating the disease. In a few weeks we will have more ventilators than we know what to do with. We can handle a surge if it comes to that.
It is not a death sentence to get the virus, yet the population as a whole has been led to think that. They are acting irrationally, and supporting bad decisions based on that false belief. I have good friends, very intelligent, who believe this because they do not dig very deep, and watch too much news. The doomsayers who normally lie dormant within our society, have now been unleashed, and rule the airwaves, and cyber world.
They are scaring the crap out of the uninformed. Different opinions based on solid data, are viewed as dissension, and the perpetrator shamed as heartless, and wanting to see children die. Not quite there yet, but we are close to mob rule IMO.
The reality, Shane, is that as things stand now, the US is on track to lose between 100,000 and 200,000 people in the next month to six weeks. That is "more than losses in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined." That could change but it is a grim possibility. You can't put lipstick on that pig. Individuals in general and health care workers in particular, are entirely correct to be afraid.
Maybe you know of data I don't but I have yet to see properly done, patient-matched, blinded, randomized studies which conclusively show that any known drug or monoclonal antibody or convalescent "serum" existing today, will actually change the course of the disease. And it more and more clear that while increasing age and pre-existing illness suggests a worse prognosis, in fact, the virus can kill the young and middle aged also.
As for Turkmenistan, because they are not a highly technological society, they will probably find higher mortality rates than 1%. Perhaps as high as 5% because even the most rudimentary antibiotic treatment (for bacterial infectiion) and respiratory support systems won't be available to many if not most of the citizens. They may have a very rude surprise before the end of this as may many other undeveloped or underdeveloped countries.
1% of population die, herd immunity established within 2 months.
The latest estimate for absolute death rate for covid-19 (according Lancet) is 0.7% This is in line with the Swiss mortality of overall 2.8% of positive tested people (1.4% in the north), because only people with severe symptoms (about 1/5) are tested.
But... this is only true if you can treat the medium severe cases. If not then you should look at the death rates of countries with overloaded health system like Spain/Italy/Netherlands/France that are in the range of 7-10% of the treated patients. We here are not even talking about the untreated ones that die at home and never will show up in a statistics as there simply are not enough test kits and level 3 protection suits to take a probe....
It's up to the medical system to immediately treat the 20% showing strong symptoms. Otherwise you will end in a big mess.
I know nothing about this but just to stay informed and be as complete as possible, here is what is going on with "aviptadil" - a "vasoactive intestinal peptide" which is thought to be a candidate to protect against ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome) which is one cause of death in COVID-19 infections.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04311697 <- clinical trial protocol and application
https://infomeddnews.com/relie…ratory-distress-syndrome/ <-article
The drug is for very sick patients threatened with cytokine storm and ARDS and is given intravenously only.
“China in Focus” suggests.
That 21.000,000 cell phone accounts have gone inactive?
Wondering how/where they got this data?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news…lion-users-as-virus-bites
While the drop in users is unusual, the total is small relative to total wireless subscriptions
which have risen to a combined 1.6 billion for the three carriers.
1%?
“China in Focus” suggests. That 21.000,000 cell phone accounts have gone inactive? Wondering how/where they got this data
Well, there are 1.45 Bn + people in China. 21,Mn is a tiny number compared with that, especially when you consider that many of those a/cs would have been business accounts belonging to shut down operations. Places like China pretty much run on wireless phones, the old 'twisted pair'technology never got very deep into the countryside.
The reality, Shane, is that as things stand now, the US is on track to lose between 100,000 and 200,000 people in the next month to six weeks. That is "more than losses in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined." That could change but it is a grim possibility. You can't put lipstick on that pig. Individuals in general and health care workers in particular, are entirely correct to be afraid.
At the moment, compassion is owned by one side of this argument, and that is the side advocating for shutting down a large part of our economy.
It is not yet seen to be equally as compassionate to care for the lives lost, and untold hardships to be faced by those who will be impacted by the recession/depression, caused by the implementation of those very same policies, As some leader said "the cure can not be worse than the disease".
Will the shut down kill more people, then it will save? Maybe in another week or two, the world will be ready to tackle that question. Not now though.
Sort of like what was the UK plan (for many years) until, for political reasons, things were changed to suppression without an obvious exit strategy.
The exit strategy is obvious! Everyone knows what it is. Keep the numbers down by following up on every case, and quarantining every patient, until a vaccine is deployed. That's all there is to it.
That is what they are doing in Korea and Japan. It is working. Japan has had 57 total deaths. It is not likely to have more than a few hundred when a vaccine becomes available. The U.S. has had 5,000 deaths and the number will be at least 100,000 before a vaccine, and probably a lot more than that.
At the moment, compassion is owned by one side of this argument, and that is the side advocating for shutting down a large part of our economy.
A thousand people are dying every day. In 3 days it will be 2,000. If the present rate of increase continues, it will be tens of thousands a day by the end of the month. There is no way you could re-open the economy in these circumstances. People will be afraid to go out of their houses, as they were in 1918. Nothing could compel people to go back to work, go to restaurants, or buy things when the situation is out of control and there is a good chance you will die if you go out in public.
This is not an "argument." It is not something we can decide, or the president can decide, or anyone can enforce. People will decide for themselves that it is not worth risking your life for a hamburger.
Its probably an argument in poor countries where people live hand to mouth..
This is not an "argument."
there are no hamburgers... just starvation..
they will accept 3-4% death rate versus social destruction
there are no hamburgers... just starvation..
they will accept 3-4% death rate versus social destruction
There is no need for social destruction. There is no social destruction going on in Japan or Korea. Even if we all have to stay at home for a few months, there will be no suffering, social destruction or hunger if the government pays everyone, the way it did in WWII. The war did not hurt the economy, even though the production of automobiles, refrigerators, and most nonessential domestic products stopped for three and a half years.
If there is social destruction in the U.S., it will be the fault of the Congress and the administration. It is easily avoidable.
Based on Ottawa 144 cases so far:
Of the total cases, 18 per cent have been hospitalized, and five per cent have been treated in intensive care
5 percent require I intensive care. Gives you idea about hospital capacity needed.
