Covid-19 News
- Alan Smith
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https://www.realclearpolitics.…ath_toll_is_inflated.html
The authors show how, and why the CDC's latest IFR of .26%, is still inflated.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/grap…-excess-deaths-recession/
"the analysis gives a clear sense of each government’s strategy for containing the virus. Some — above all Italy and Spain — enforced prolonged and strict lockdowns after infections took off. Others — especially Sweden — preferred a much more relaxed approach. Portugal and Greece chose to close down while cases were relatively low. France and the U.K. took longer before deciding to impose the most restrictive measures.
But, as our next chart shows, there’s little correlation between the severity of a nation’s restrictions and whether it managed to curb excess fatalities — a measure that looks at the overall number of deaths compared with normal trends."
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https://www.realclearpolitics.…ath_toll_is_inflated.html
The authors show how, and why the CDC's latest IFR of .26%, is still inflated.
So I'm interested in this. I don't dismiss the CDC figure, but its not quite eventual IFR. It is based on current infections and deaths. If those infected are mainly younger because those at risk are well shielded then it only holds for as long as that shielding can be continued.
The problem is that all the IFR estimates we have at the moment are uncertain by quite a lot. Watch this space.
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The problem is that all the IFR estimates we have at the moment are uncertain by quite a lot. Watch this space.
Yes, I agree, but the authors point is that many of those whom died in that .26% IFR figure, died from something else. That is something that has been mentioned here before, and brushed off. Yes, that may be offset with people dying outside of the hospital, and not included.
In a few more months, we should have a fairly accurate IFR. It could go either way IMO, but fact is that many near death from other illnesses, were counted as dying from COVID. Colorado alone readjusted ~28% downwards, after they factored that in.
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They were not on topic as even you have to admit, so had to move them to Clearance.
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Yes, I agree, but the authors point is that many of those whom died in that .26% IFR figure, died from something else. That is something that has been mentioned here before, and brushed off. Yes, that may be offset with people dying outside of the hospital, and not included.
In a few more months, we should have a fairly accurate IFR. It could go either way IMO, but fact is that many near death from other illnesses, were counted as dying from COVID. Colorado alone readjusted ~28% downwards, after they factored that in.
It is intentional obfuscation of death statistics. Pointed out by Project Veritas, Senator Jensen of Minneapolis, and many other physicians.
Looks like they took the same assumptions I did to get a 0.26% number.
I think this really is 0.1% w/ proper treatment. As stated many times - a bad flu. Be careful. -
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Alan Smith yes we suffer from a bloke that wants to be prime minister, but is vanilla on policies, so needs Cummings to provide the ideas, and surrounds himself with lesser yes men and a fixation on a single policy (begins with B).
So not a good recipe for crisis management.
According to the "More or Less" program (on Radio 4 last week) Germany went into lockdown at the same time as UK did but importantly one week earlier "virus time" and thus saved thousands of lives.
Also Germany did a better job of track and trace since day 1.
Apparently we need to invent a new UK wheel which is better than those foreign wheels.
So while everyone else has a decentralised model app the good old UK has gone its own way with a centralised model app which has been trialed and run into difficulties.
And now the UK trackers and tracers are using pencil and paper and the app has gone from "key" to what we are now told is "nice to have".
However I expect that Russia, Iran and Brazil will be higher than UK eventually (real stats not political stats).
Also the UK at least has the advantages of a joined up national health service and (credit where due to the goverment) a national furlough scheme backed by the treasury.
On the other hand the USA has a disjointed health system setup to compete for profit, rather than collaborate, and a strange political view that giving taxpayers money to private business is ok but giving it to taxpaying workers to isolate is anathema. Thus I expect, along with Jed, that the USA will surpass the UK (as usual) .
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By the way, not wanting to crap on the statistics but how come Israel and South Africa have minus deaths from Covid???
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By the way, not wanting to crap on the statistics but how come Israel and South Africa have minus deaths from Covid???
In Israel people tend to come back to life. Whole graveyards full. Matthew 27:52-53
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By the way, not wanting to crap on the statistics but how come Israel and South Africa have minus deaths from Covid???
It is minus vs. the expected death rate from all causes. Maybe less crime, bombs, car accidents..
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In Israel people tend to come back to life. Whole graveyards full. Matthew 27:52-53
Actually 2000 people resurrected last week in Spain
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HCQ suspended temporarily in Costa Rica..
Muertos = 10 on 29 May..since 17May
The Muertos data will be interesting in two weeks time..
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Now even Nature which has closely conformed to the WHO/CDC/NIH/FDA party line,
has to admit that the Lancet's "definitive" anti-HCQ study looks suspicious --
"Safety fears over hyped drug hydroxychloroquine spark global confusion"
A study that suggested treatment with the malaria drug could be dangerous to people with coronavirus has slowed clinical trials — but the study itself has also been questioned.
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It is minus vs. the expected death rate from all causes. Maybe less crime, bombs, car accidents..
I read that in the U.S., the number of influenza cases is much lower than normal, presumably because of social distancing, masks, and the other precautions people are taking to avoid the coronavirus.
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Actually 2000 people resurrected last week in Spain
Catholics, I assume. Along the same lines, 1 in 2,000 women giving birth claim they are virgins.
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In Israel people tend to come back to life. Whole graveyards full. Matthew 27:52-53
yup, they all registered to vote in the elections~
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I just heard that a study showed that of 30k senior living center excess deaths in the UK (not sure in what timeframe) --
10k died of Covid.
20k died of isolation (couldn't get medical care, medicine etc) the quarantine killed them.
We should be ashamed of ourselves, and I include myself for not speaking up louder and educating more people.
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