Safire eyes commercialization within 5 years, with launch of new company Aureon Energy!

New video posted by SAFIRE.

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The views of the video were over 2000 much earlier today. Now they are 1669. Very strange..

I catched it when it was around 1500 views, so I never saw it with 2000. But Youtube is known to alter metrics and some weird shenanigans, not sure what would be the point in this case, tho.

I have been taking part in the Comments section of the new SAFIRE video, and I catched this in answer to some people concerned about "ProfessorDave":

The SAFIRE Project

Hace 2 minutos

Ok, so the only thing we will say about the "self professed" Professor Dave is that he is NOT a professor at all, he knows nothing about plasma physics, nuclear chemistry, LENR, or related. He, if you search, decided to take on the name "Professor" because he "Likes the sound of it"... I have taught at University, MIT, Maryland, Bath, and wrote college books on AI and much more. Internally we do not call Dave, "Professor Dave"... we call him the "Idiot Comedian". Actually, after watching his video, there were sections when I had to pause the video because I couldn't stop laughing. The EC and NASA and the DOD and other countries and corporations are putting millions into this research. They are not pseudo science idiots... THEY, are, mainstream, and Aureon is engaging with Mainstream Scientific Community. We are recognized as experts in our field and we get along quite well with the Big Players even out of Washington and Europe. The reason Lowell quit was because his predictive equations based Boltzmann predictions failed, and failed miserably. These are predominantly thermal equations - not non-thermal. I told Lowell at the time, this is not a big deal, it just means there are things you do not understand at this time. But the audience must understand, this is not an easy thing to deal with... it means the math, at this time, cannot quantify the nuclear reactions that ARE occurring. No one at this time can provide a comprehensive predictive model... NO ONE. This is not easy science... and we do NOT recommend people attempt to do this in their garage... it won't end well. Lowell is a very, very smart man... over 90 peer reviewed papers - he has credentials, very good credentials... but it doesn't mean he can resolve for the elemental transmutations or self organizing responses that were observed, captured and analyzed. No one has at this time not even the Russians. We have been contacted by CERN, by the US DOE, DOD, DTRA, CNL and a number of others who KNOW about these things. So, in the end, we have just opened the door to a whole new paradigm - and The SAFIRE Team can repeat the tests and the results, time and time again... This is the foundation we can all build upon. Of course there are a lot of unanswered questions - but we are all over it. And, we really know what we are doing. Anyway, we have no ill things to say to Lowell, but we have cautioned him. We will not engage in useless disputations with people who do not respect us. It is a waste of time. And, that is all I have to say about the self professed "Idiot Comedian" - Dave.

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That is not the point. This has to do with integrity.
This was indicated as quote from an e-mail that was sent to a restricted group of people. E-mails are not default public matter.

don’t sweat it Rob Woudenberg , The email comes with encouragements to share the good news.

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It was indicated in the email that the information I quoted was going to be released publicly in the YouTube video. There was no demand or request to withhold that information for any period of time, nor were there any specific details on the subject I mentioned. Perhaps if I leave out the quotes and paraphrase next time?

Regarding "Professor" Dave, he is a high school teacher and YouTube star wannabe. If he wasn't such a vitriolic a-hole, nobody would know or care who he was. But sensationalism and "Jerry Springer" bravado sells on the internet, so let him have his little cult of followers as long as he doesn't cause any real harm to actual researchers' projects.

One of the “Idiot-comedian’s” fans who claims to be a credentialed scientist (albeit he shows to be completely ignorant on Recent developments) is currently ruffling feathers in the comment section of the video, a guy by the handle “Ian w16”. He is not precisely a good debater, just a shot flinger as his YouTube star.

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Credentials mean nothing if you don't do your homework. Scientists who have not read the literature are not qualified to discuss an experiment. Any experiment, ever.

I have seen many idiotic comments about cold fusion made by distinguished scientists, including some Nobel laureates. These were brilliant people, but they knew nothing about the experiments. I am not exaggerating; I mean they did not know what instruments were used, what results were obtained, or how the results were interpreted. They were talking about an imaginary version of the experiment. No matter how smart you may be, you cannot do science by ESP.

No need to tell me that, JedRothwell , I am very aware.

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No matter how smart you may be, you cannot do science by ESP

There are a few people in here who think you can.

Quote from can

Not exactly related with the most recent discussions here, but are there known/disclosed theoretical reasons for using a spherical anode?

EDIT: the focus is on "spherical".

AFAI understand, is based on the “Terrellas” of Birkeland, which were spherical, and because the SAFIRE project started as a project to model the stellar atmosphere (Stellar Atmosphere Function In Regulation Experiment) within the context of the idea that the Sun is an electric powered plasma body.

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Curbina

I see; so that's a kind of philosophical motivation (i.e. "imitating nature"). I was wondering more if from theoretical modeling, calculations or experimental data it might possibly work more efficiently for certain plasmas, or perform better in some aspects, etc.

I think a version of this document about Birkeland's Terrella experiments has been posted in the past on LENR-Forum: http://theu.one/tuo/wp-content…12/Birkeland_Terrella.pdf

can , I think you missed the point, It was not to imitate nature, but to model it: the origin of the SAFIRE project was to validate the idea of an electrically driven Sun (and all stars for that matter). The SAFIRE project, as initially designed and from the point of its stated objectives, ended in 2019 and in their conclusions they stated that they had validated the Electric Sun model, as proposed by the Electric Universe Theory, which is a very controversial serie of ideas derived from the Plasma Cosmology.

Now, part of the range of ideas proposed by the Electric Universe group, always suggested that transmutation happened in the Sun’s corona, and a part of the researchers of this theory have long suggested that electric discharges and plasmas Can transmute elements. I am not sure this was one of the aims of the SAFIRE project to begin with, but they allegedly stumbled upon it during the research and they decided to explore it further in the last phase of the project.

After the project formally ended, the team in charge, decided to start Aureon Energy to develop the commercial application of the results.

One fact that suggests that the SAFIRE project might have always had much more objectives than the ones formally stated , is that Hal Puthoff is member of the advisory board.

And in the small print about the Aureon team is another person as significant as Hal Puthoff, one Eric Davis. ED has a long history of working on black projects, and was at one time working on Ken Shoulder's replications for the USAF.