Safire eyes commercialization within 5 years, with launch of new company Aureon Energy!

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Gerard McEk It is probably easier for Aureon to 'fill a void' by openly pursuing a technology (remediation) that offers serious environmental and possible commercial benefits to radioactive waste creators, rather than attempting to promote new energy technology to a mutually supportive cabal of existing energy suppliers. The fact that energy creation could be a 'side effect' of the remediation technology they get paid to work on is a bonus.

Aureon made the right decision as many advised them about this. They remediation problem is so big, that they should outside the corp not even talk about the other stuff. It could be a decade away, and investors shouldn't be hearing two separate stories at this point.

However, I would have thought that everybody in the power industry would 'come round' to seeing that LENR - dependent energy production should now and for our future, be realistically the only way ahead. Its a matter of time, and political intent.

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However, I would have thought that everybody in the power industry would 'come round' to seeing that LENR - dependent energy production should now and for our future, be realistically the only way ahead. Its a matter of time, and political intent.

Essentially everyone has no idea what it is. Then if you told them about it they would do a google search and hit some confusion and retreat.

That's who science works these days. The ones who go one level deeper, they meet some of the traps/"its fake" sites and they don't go further. Just think about the fact that every term physics students graduate and don't know the term either...

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I actually have seen a video (and posted in one thread here, will point it out, if you wish) where a guy claims to have touched the flame (a guy called David Donatelli) while visiting Omasa. He got a “burn” but he said it felt more like an electric shock, and it healed completely in about 2 hours.

About your question regarding the SAFIRE reactor, it tells me you have no idea what the SAFIRE reactor is. It is a sealed chamber which is first emptied completely and then partially loaded with low pressures of gases, mostly H and D. Then a current is passed through the central spheric electrode and it creates plasma double layers. No water inside it or near it, at all.

There are also real videos of steel workers briefly sticking their hands in molten iron, that received no injuries. It doesn’t mean that molten steel is cool. People weld platinum with tiny oxyhydrogen torches. Nobody that believes they can melt tungsten with HHO (and the Ohmasa, Browns, whatever electrolyser gas) can weld it. Never.

I’ll have a look at the Safire thing, but there is probably water or oxygen in a bad spot if the W exploded, especially if it vapourized. I thought I looked at that a while back and the electrodes were water cooled. Even steam on 800 C Tungsten metal causes it to oxidize rapidly enough that streamers of WO3 can be visible in good conditions, and the oxidation accelerates at higher temperatures. Fresh metal surfaces are left as the tungsten trioxide evaporates so there is little evidence at the scene of oxidation except mass loss until the materials are obviously diminished.

Edit: Since this is the BEC thread I will cease on this subject here, with the following note.

I did a quick search, and the first reference was a spectrometer result with 1.17% water in the Safire reactor gas, and also described tungsten-nickel alloy electrodes rather than pure W ones.

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Nickel-Tungsten 276 alloy is a highly corrosion/oxidation resistant alloy used in chemically stressed reactor systems.

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Edit: Since this is the BEC thread I will cease on this subject here, with the following note.

I did a quick search, and the first reference was a spectrometer result with 1.17% water in the Safire reactor gas, and also described tungsten-nickel alloy electrodes rather than pure W ones.

Incidentally, I hear Aureon/Safire still looking for cash, probably because some previous promises had too many strings attached.

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This post and the one above moved from the BEC thread.

Nickel-Tungsten 276 alloy is a highly corrosion/oxidation resistant alloy used in chemically stressed reactor systems.

That alloy is 3 to 4.5 % W , is mostly nickel, and melts at similar temperatures to type K thermocouples,

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That alloy is 3 to 4.5 % W , is mostly nickel, and melts at similar temperatures to type K thermocouples,

And the alloy you were discussing was what composition?

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And the alloy you were discussing was what composition?

It started out as being about vaporizing tungsten. I presume that means either pure tungsten or an alloy of primarily tungsten, with a consequently high melting point. Alloy 276 forms it’s own protective nickel-chromium (spinel?) oxide coating (much like a type K thermocouple) which greatly slows further oxidation, whereas ‘pure’ tungsten leaves an exposed clean surface because the most of the W trioxide formed in oxidation immediately leaves metal surface.

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Incidentally, I hear Aureon/Safire still looking for cash, probably because some previous promises had too many strings attached.

So how do you know Aureon is looking for cash still, Alan Smith?

As an Aureon first-round investor, I didn't find too many strings attached. I certainly hope the SAFIRE team is "playing chess while others play checkers" with respect to its apparent foray into remediation. The energy stuff may come later. Or they may have no idea how to harness it. Or produce it reliably. Or, or, or...

The key is more frequent updates. Keep us in the loop. Let us know *something* is happening.

I probably wouldn't throw more money at the project at this point. But if they produce a device or repeatable process with vetted results, well, that could open the money spigots full blast.

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So how do you know Aureon is looking for cash still, Alan Smith?

As an Aureon first-round investor, I didn't find too many strings attached. I certainly hope the SAFIRE team is "playing chess while others play checkers" with respect to its apparent foray into remediation. The energy stuff may come later. Or they may have no idea how to harness it. Or produce it reliably. Or, or, or...

The key is more frequent updates. Keep us in the loop. Let us know *something* is happening.

You wouldn't expect me to reveal my sources would you? As for the strings - they have 2 ends, I have found that in general the conditions are set by the money guys, not the researchers. And of course, if I come across something that can and should be shared I will do that.

Aureon seem to be doing really well, under the guidance of Monty Childs. I am glad they are following new directions, not confined to their electric sun model which was over-Velikovskian. Thanks for your transparency in discussing this, Alan Smith.

FYI

Did you know that a rotating Bose condensate forms on the surface of the SAFIRE anode? Does the SAFIRE team know?

There is a computer program called BEC2HPC for computing the ground states of

the nonlinear Schrodinger equation and the Gross-Pitaevskii equation (GPE) for modeling rotating Bose-Einstein condensates (BEC). This program generates the SAFIRE vortex studded ball we associate with SAFIRE.

This Gross-Pitaevskii equation output tells us that a Bose condensate forms on the surface of the anode of the SAFIRE system.

See page 12 of this document as follows:

Gross-Pitaevskii theory

https://uni-tuebingen.de/fileadmin/Uni_Tuebingen/Fakultaeten/MathePhysik/Institute/PIT/Festk%C3%B6rperphysik/Dokumente/4_Gross-Pitaevskii_theory.pdf

The Gross-Pitaevskii theory is certainly food for thought - but can we use it to distinguish between electron clustering in BEC condensates or, for example negative muon formation within the plasma double layers? We have the same problem arising in Leif Holmlid's work (or again distinguishing between cold neutron clustering vs negative muons)? Again more questions arise than clear answers to any of these scientific problems! Whatever the mechanism, Aureon Energy are making clear strides towards commercialisation.

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This interview tells us that Holmlid has not detected any of the particles that he has claimed. What he sees in his cloud chamber are Exotic vacuum objects (EVO) as observed by magicsound.

Creation of EVOs when Ultra dense hydogen a superconductor is exposed to light is shown to occur when those EVOs are detected in the cloud chamber.

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