Safire eyes commercialization within 5 years, with launch of new company Aureon Energy!

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Mark Pinnell

I have no skin in the Aureon game, but FWIW I think they have a very real and very interesting technology. Right now they are following the available money, as life and a payroll force them to, but I think there is more to come in terms of using the system for energy generation. I wish them every success. And maybe I should ask Monty if he's up for another interview.

Not sure if I've see your interview with Monty... is it online somewhere? I regularly search for Aureon content and think I have seen most freely available stuff. Link me up! =)

Mark Pinnell

Actually I was having sound problems, but I did fix up the gig. At the top of the page there's a 'videos' tab. There are quite a few. This is the Monty link though - listen carefully, he is very open.

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The focus on nuclear remediation is profoundly silly. If this technology exists, then likely so does the energy generation technology. And if we have the latter, then why would we need nuclear power generation, and consequently why would we need nuclear remediation? So if they are successful, then they will fail.

great business plan (not).

Because Radium is a by product of fracking and ships, trains, trucks and cars dont run on nuclear fission engines. And then there is all the products manufactured with oil. And then there is all the contamination that wont get into the water catchments. And then there is all the radiation the cleanup crews are exposed to.

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Mark Pinnell

Actually I was having sound problems, but I did fix up the gig. At the top of the page there's a 'videos' tab. There are quite a few. This is the Monty link though - listen carefully, he is very open.

Thanks Alan. I have seen that one. You'll have to ask him about direct energy production if you get another interview but he may not want the divulge how they will do that.

Serious work in the lab, measuring properties of some new designs

I hope we get to see the aqueous configuration selfies.

I am looking for people who would like to team up and do a simplified replication of the Safire Project experiment. The Safire group see transmutations to other elements in the tungsten electrode and excess heat with an experiment using high-voltage electrodes in a hydrogen (plus more gasses) atmosphere.

Here is a report written by the Safire group (transmutation results listed on page 53) from 2017:

https://www.safireproject.com/science/ewExternalFiles/SAFIRE-Project-Report.pdf

One option for my experiment is to design and build a 12 to 20 inch long quartz tube with tungsten electrodes at each end. It will use Kovar steel and Pyrex (borosilicate) glass for the hermetic seal at each end which allows for the high voltage feedthroughs and the gas feedthrough. In this design, Kovar steel is fused with Pyrex glass and the Pyrex glass is fused with the quartz. Kovar steel has about the same thermal expansion coefficient as Pyrex glass which creates a glass / metal joint with low stresses as the temperature changes. Various cathode and anode materials could be tried including tungsten and nickel steels. Gases will include hydrogen, nitrogen, argon and small amounts of water vapor and various combinations with more gasses.

Ideally I would find an investor. Can anyone help out with machining? Or welding of steel tube and swagelok vacuum fittings? Saving money on those tasks will allow me to put more money into other parts of the experiment. Does anyone want to build the same experiment? If so that would allow for splitting machining costs due to lower costs per part when ordering multiple parts.

Off-the-shelf conflat seal to borosilicate adapters:

Ideal Vacuum | Conflat Fittings And Flanges, Adapters, Adapter, Conflat to Glass Borosilicate

Technique of joining Kovar steel to borosilicate glass:

Making Connections to Glass-to Metal Seals | Larson Electronic Glass, LLC

The Safire group are now known as Aureon:

Science | Aureon Energy, Ltd.

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I am looking for people who would like to team up and do a simplified replication of the Safire Project experiment. The Safire group see transmutations to other elements in the tungsten electrode and excess heat with an experiment using high-voltage electrodes in a hydrogen (plus more gasses) atmosphere.

Here is a report written by the Safire group (transmutation results listed on page 53) from 2017:

https://www.safireproject.com/…SAFIRE-Project-Report.pdf

One option for my experiment is to design and build a 12 to 20 inch long quartz tube with tungsten electrodes at each end. It will use Kovar steel and Pyrex (borosilicate) glass for the hermetic seal at each end which allows for the high voltage feedthroughs and the gas feedthrough. In this design, Kovar steel is fused with Pyrex glass and the Pyrex glass is fused with the quartz. Kovar steel has about the same thermal expansion coefficient as Pyrex glass which creates a glass / metal joint with low stresses as the temperature changes. Various cathode and anode materials could be tried including tungsten and nickel steels. Gases will include hydrogen, nitrogen, argon and small amounts of water vapor and various combinations with more gasses.

Ideally I would find an investor. Can anyone help out with machining? Or welding of steel tube and swagelok vacuum fittings? Saving money on those tasks will allow me to put more money into other parts of the experiment. Does anyone want to build the same experiment? If so that would allow for splitting machining costs due to lower costs per part when ordering multiple parts.

Off-the-shelf conflat seal to borosilicate adapters:

https://www.idealvac.com/Adapt…silicate/pl/2-94-1864-874

Technique of joining Kovar steel to borosilicate glass:

https://www.larsonelectronicgl…e/making-connections.html

The Safire group are now known as Aureon:

https://aureon.ca/science

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An independent replication of sorts has already taken place if you look at the videos of the MFMP tagged VEGA.

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I am looking for people who would like to team up and do a simplified replication of the Safire Project experiment. The Safire group see transmutations to other elements in the tungsten electrode and excess heat with an experiment using high-voltage electrodes in a hydrogen (plus more gasses) atmosphere.

And why do you need replication, try something new, for example, this

j9381

From the point of view of cost, you can buy relatively large (but thin-wall) quartz tubes from aquatics suppliers. They are made for holding UV-fluorescent tubes in pond water treatment systems. These are available in several diameters, but are generally around 30mm OD and any length up to 2.4M for less than $100.

As for closures you could probably find 30mm 316 stainless steel hydraulic compression fitting (stop end type) for $50 or less to fit onto the tube. This is easy to drill for an electrode which can be brazed or silver soldered into position. You will also need to make room for vacuum hose connections. As for sealing you have two choices depending on how close a fit you can find. You can either discard the metal compression ring (AKA as 'olive') that comes with it and use a suitable Viton high temperature rubber O-ring instead, or use metasilicate silencer seal and no O-rings at all.

What you have now made is potentially a glow-discharge system. But it is nothing like the Safire rig which has assymetric electrode areas and generally uses more than two electrodes.

The most difficult part is the PSU, since Safire systems use high currents as well as high voltage. From discussion with MontyC (and from memory) they are liooking at 1 to 1.5 kV at several hundred amperes. A small neon transformer won't cut it, they only produce mA. You might have to dabble in microwave transformer modification. possibly 2 or 3 in parallel with smoothing caps and diodes. But be warned, this is a deadly combination, and could probably kill a horse (or you) very easily- a moments carelessness is quite enough.

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As for closures you could probably find 30mm 316 stainless steel hydraulic compression fitting (stop end type) for $50 or less to fit onto the tube. This is easy to drill for an electrode which can be brazed or silver soldered into position

Alan, maybe you have a concrete example for such a compression fitting?

Thx

Gerold

This is the general arrangement. When the nut is screwed onto the body of the fitting the soft copper ring is squeezed down to fir the pipe. Replacing the copper ring with a viton O ring is quite possible, I have done it.

This is the 'stop end' type qith a plain disc end. The copper ring can just be seen. This is brass but they are available in stainless steel. You can add whatever fittings you require to one of these.

This US comany has a good selection of data on O rings - but they are available globally. Viton is the best high-tenperature material, good up to 300C, silicone the next best.

Standard O-Rings | Boyd

Posting this here as Donald Scott relates directly the Electric Sun model to the SAFIRE reactor in this just published video.