980 Covid related Hospital deaths in the UK today, plus an unknown number of home deaths and care home deaths.
The UK projection at healtdata.org was dire yesterday. I do not know why, but it showed cases far exceeding available hospital beds and ICU beds. The projection has been updated and it is better today, but still awful.
The UK projection at healtdata.org was dire yesterday. I do not know why, but it showed cases far exceeding available hospital beds and ICU beds. The projection has been updated and it is better today, but still awful.
It has the wrong figure for beds
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51714498
For example, it says 17,700 beds are available when 33,000 beds existed on 27 March and more are being added all the time.
There will be a shortfall in ICU beds (I guess) met by prioritising cases. Many of the ICU patients are highly likely to die, prioritisation towards those with an expected better clinical outcome will not much change mortality rates.
In addition I think the assumptions about future R0 are incorrect, looking at the slope of the historic and projected graphs.
I'm not saying all is rosy in the UK, we will have a lot of deaths, more than we should have, and the NHS will be more stretched than anyone wants. But things are not as bad as that model would indicate.
The real tragedy in the UK is lack of testing and lack of PPE all of which is hitting medical staff and also making hiospitals and care homes COVID breeding grounds. Efforts are now being made to deal with both problems, but they should have been made in January when we had our first cases. We wasted a lot of time.
Always good to listen to a different opinion.
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Always good to listen to a different opinion.
This guy is a blithering idiot. His discussion of masks alone should win him a Darwin award. Why do you suppose every Asian country recommends or compells masks for everyone? Have you seen the progress of the pandemic in asia?
Here is another idiotic contrarian view:
The real tragedy in the UK is lack of testing and lack of PPE all of which is hitting medical staff and also making hiospitals and care homes COVID breeding grounds.
BBC shows ICU staff just wearing plexiglass glass face protecting gears that are open on the side. Why don't they use air tight wide-view googles we can buy in any craftsmen shops??
Aerosols stay in the air and can land with high doses in the eyes. I'm pretty sure that at least 10% of these people will have it within 2 weeks at latest. Even Ski googles would be of higher value albeit these have little slits.
It has the wrong figure for beds
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51714498
For example, it says 17,700 beds are available when 33,000 beds existed on 27 March and more are being added all the time.
You should inform the people at the healthdata.org website. Send them a link to the BBC article, and an authoritative site the BBC links to, if possible.
QuoteAlways good to listen to a different opinion.
Sure. As long as the person you are listening to isn't a dangerous moron and a braying jackass. Which Sam Vaknin most certainly is about this topic. Sad. But hey, go ahead, act on it. Just stay the fu*k away from me. Darwin's Law applies here. Also what JedRothwell said about it.
This guy is a blithering idiot. His discussion of masks alone should win him a Darwin award.
Plus, he said this is no worse than seasonal influenza. He said this on April 5. With seasonal influenza, does the Army set up emergency hospitals for thousands of patients? Do the hospitals nationwide cancel elective surgery? Are there overflow refrigerated trucks full of corpses? Do the authorities in New York city dig trenches and stack coffins two deep, crammed together? That's not a lurid rumor. It is happening, here:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/a…aves-new-york-hart-island
This video appears to show the coffins stacked two deep:
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000007081747/coronavirus-nyc-mass-graves.html
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Display MorePlus, he said this is no worse than seasonal influenza. He said this on April 5. With seasonal influenza, does the Army set up emergency hospitals for thousands of patients? Do the hospitals nationwide cancel elective surgery? Are there overflow refrigerated trucks full of corpses? Do the authorities in New York city dig trenches and stack coffins two deep, crammed together? That's not a lurid rumor. It is happening, here:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/a…aves-new-york-hart-island
This video appears to show the coffins stacked two deep:
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000007081747/coronavirus-nyc-mass-graves.html
Good people have to show you the way. The numbers do look equivalent to a bad flu. These are the facts on the ground
Gates and company want to vaccinate you and ID-track you. They are openly saying billions of people must get a vaccine. This is equivalent to a 911 type fear mongering to induce panic.
Watching the mainstream media can actually cause you to submit to the fear. We make most decisions based on our emotional system (amygdala) and then justify our decisions with intellectual reasons afterwards. Physicists do the same which is why they reject LENR. Because they are using parts of their brain involved in rapid fire decision making, and then they overlay that with justifications ("there's no evidence, weak evidence, Cold fusion illusion remember, extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence.")
The mainstream would want you to stop believing in LENR, are you going to listen to them about that too?
I highly recommend very person interested in breakthrough energy to learn American History (from the last 80s years) that you probably don't know. I recommend the Dark Journalist channel on youtube. It will take you a few weeks to go through some of it. Take it slow. Here is the latest.
There is a lifetime of learning in this post and it can change your world view about reality if you dig deep. Do it.
Given the new Raoult data time to end the academic prevarication and it's now time for Mass Drug Administration! I hope Trump does it soon if the WHO carries on sitting on their hands. 
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