Covid-19, Your health and that of your community

  • Damn! My cat is 17 years old and fat. What shall I tell him??

    Goodbye?


    (S\eriously, it's an oddity, very rare so far. Unfortunately, other things will bother a seventeen year old kitty. We had one until fairly recently. I miss him.)


    ETA: maybe not so rare... I saw a paper (forgot where) purporting that domestic cats can acquire COVID-19 from owners and pass it on to other cats and people. Dogs too but much less. If the work is correct.

  • India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Africa, Malaya, Phillipines, S. America -.... previous N1H1 pandemics wiped out 50 million mainly in these countries

    wiped out 50 million

    When? 2009 1920?


    rather than relying on a poorly established hypothetical immunity from Covid due to antimalarials

    all of these countries are taking administrative measures to reduce the pandemic impact..Thank God

    "

    Several control measures have currently been taken by most of the African countries to prevent/reduce
    the spread of COVID-19, especially against case importation from the COVID-19 epicenters. Some of the measures includes travel ban to and from the most COVID-19 hit countries, school closures, temporary
    ban of religious gathering and so on (Gilbert, 2020; World Health Organization, 2020d; Nigeria Center for
    Disease Control, 2020)
    ."

    https://assets.researchsquare.…s-19916/v1/Manuscript.pdf

  • we would hear similar stories played out all over the world,

    Currently there is a drama btw the NSW government, health department and Carnival cruises

    about " a ship of shame"

    Ruby Princess.. 2700 passengers released with zero checks on the say so of the ship's doctor..

    so far the mortality is 12 and rising.

    which the media are making a meal of.

    Certainly the Cruise co. has culpabilty... the chief MO made this video 10 days after 542 covid cases

    were confirmed on the Diamond Princess

    "Dr. Grant Tarling is Group Senior Vice President and Chief Medical Officer, "

    https://www.crikey.com.au/2020…virus-inadequate-docking/



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  • The malaria data is only a correlation which requires further investigation that is all. Referring to the 1918 pandemic obviously the later 2009 one claimed far fewer lives. Maybe there is some inherited resistance in African populations? If it's not the antimalarial drugs maybe a widespread SARS Cov-1 outbreak which went largely undetected effectively immunized them to the present bat virus? Use a mild virus to immunize against a killer virus, now there's a an idea! Same surface spike proteins but less effective intracellular replication mechanism. Should think some molecular biologist somewhere is working on it!:)

  • Maybe there is some inherited resistance in African populations?


    There may be exposure of these populations to all kinds of viruses...

    sometimes this previous exposure can have positive or negative effect..


    Watch this space.. http://covid19.ncdc.gov.ng/ for some indication..


    for instance the 1918-1920 Spanish H1N1 flu's selective mortality among young adults

    may have been due to exposure of these adults to the Russian flu
    (Influenza A) 1889–1890++-....pandemic as infants.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3734171/



    Unfortunately the 5 laboratories in Nigeria do not report yet how may tests have been conducted..

    but it may have reached 5000.. for a population of 200 million..

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    The malaria data is only a correlation which requires further investigation that is all. Referring to the 1918 pandemic obviously the later 2009 one claimed far fewer lives. Maybe there is some inherited resistance in African populations? If it's not the antimalarial drugs maybe a widespread SARS Cov-1 outbreak which went largely undetected effectively immunized them to the present bat virus? Use a mild virus to immunize against a killer virus, now there's a an idea! Same surface spike proteins but less effective intracellular replication mechanism. Should think some molecular biologist somewhere is working on it!


    There's a region near Veneto, Italy, called 'The Marsh' where a lot of people carry the genes for what is known as Medditeranean Anemia = which like Sickle-Cell Anemia confers some protection against Malaria. Apparently this region also has anomalously low Covid-19 infection rates.


    Causation, correlation?

  • The population of Nigeria to date is 204 million with 232 total cases of corona virus with 5 deaths.

    The population of the UK is ..............66 million. .with 51, 618 cases......,............... with 5,373 deaths.

    Or compare Italy and the US with even worse statistics. Point is COVID-19 infections in the third world are negligible compared to their populations. Why? It's usually the other way round. Inherited immunity? Antimalarial medications? No McDonalds?:)

  • The population of Nigeria to date is 204 million with 232 total cases of corona virus with 5 deaths.

    The population of the UK is ..............66 million. .with 51, 618 cases......,............... with 5,373 deaths.

    Or compare Italy and the US with even worse statistics. Point is COVID-19 infections in the third world are negligible compared to their populations. Why? It's usually the other way round. Inherited immunity? Antimalarial medications? No McDonalds?:)

    Nigeria has only just ramped up to 1500 tests per day.

  • Surely they would know the number of deaths if they don't know the true number of cases. You would expect at east 15 K deaths with three times the UK population assuming similar transmission and immunity levels. Bodies everywhere.

  • Surely they would know the number of deaths if they don't know the true number of cases. You would expect at east 15 K deaths with three times the UK population assuming similar transmission and immunity levels. Bodies everywhere.


    That is an incorrect comparison. The age profile data posted here some time ago shows that Nigeria with a much much younger population demographic will have less than 50% mortality of UK for same infection rate, all other things being equal:


    eyeball area under figure 2 graphs:

    https://www.medrxiv.org/conten…03.15.20036293v1.full.pdf

  • Papua New Guinea has just declared a state of emergency! It has 2 repeat 2 cases of COVID-19 infection. No tdeaths! Compared to 1 million cases of malaria each year? So what's preventing the COVzID -19. Can't be the widespread use of anti-malarial quinine analogues Choloquine, Mefloquine, and Hydroxchloroquine now could it? How close is it to China? More or less trade than with the UK? How many ventilators?

    New NHS protocol - turn bodies over to improve ventilation. Nothing sophisticated !like 'anti-malarial drug therapy with an antibiotic, tried and.tested in the US, China, France and Italy. No must have another five thousand deaths before we hear from the WHO that it works. Has Boris been treated yet? Certainly worked on Prince Charles!:(:)

  • Ok but 50% mortality would be how many deaths? Over two thousand not just five.?????!!!!! And age demographic is not quite so significant in affecting immunity if rates of HIV, TB, yellow or dengue fever etc and malnutrition are factored in. Of course it could be that they are all sharing their HIV medication. A better idea than McD's?.:)

  • The population of Nigeria to date is 204 million with 232 total cases of corona virus with 5 deaths.

    The population of the UK is ..............66 million. .with 51, 618 cases......,............... with 5,373 deaths.

    Or compare Italy and the US with even worse statistics. Point is COVID-19 infections in the third world are negligible compared to their populations. Why? It's usually the other way round. Inherited immunity? Antimalarial medications? No McDonalds?:)


    Nigeria (worldometer tonight) has done only 4000 tests of which about 5% were positive.


    Given that community rates of say 1 in 10,000 will not be picked up by that they could have community infections of up to 6000 or more - since with so few tests i doubt they are doing community testing.


    Why so much less? As with some parts of the US they have had relatively little contact from infected people. You would have some useful data, after community transmission is high enough to show in tests, by seeing what is the doubling rate.


    THH

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