Deuterium Energetics Limited

Quote from JedRothwell

Actually, they could not do that, for reasons mostly beyond the scope of the discussion. It took days or weeks to prepare for a flight, and they had to have a designated field with a hanger. Eventually the army agreed to a demonstration at Fort Myer. It was a poor choice. There was not enough space. But anyway, Orville finally flew there on September 3, 1908. Wilbur had already flown in France on August 8, causing a big splash. These public tests did, finally, convince the world that the claims were true.

The patent office is not needed to prove reality. On the other hand you have to prove reality to get a patent. That is not normally needed but this invention appears to violate the known laws of physics.

A patent is needed if you are going to make money. Without a patent, when the public realizes the invention is real, every industrial corporation on earth will take it from you. No doubt many of them will try to take it anyway, but if you have a patent you can hire top-notch lawyers and sue them.

That is not a bit true as far as I know. It is not simple. I do not know anyone who can make a reliable cold fusion device. No one knows how to control it or scale it up.

The Wright brothers airplane was rather simple to produce. It had no market, other than wealthy young men willing to risk their lives. It killed most of the early pilots.

If anyone could do that we would soon be able to convince the patent office and every industrial corporation on earth that the invention is real. If anyone could produce 5 or 10 gadgets that produce 10 W reliably, on demand, with only a few watts input, I could use that to convince everyone in the world that the effect is real. No one I know is capable of doing anything like that. Some people claim they can do it but they are keeping their devices secret. I doubt they can actually do it.

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We can do that. Low kilowatts now, higher soon. But we need money to do so. Making things that are safe and reliable costs money. Not megabucks, but more than I have. My dreams are filled with shoving out reactors off a C-130 ramp over northern Africa. And other places. No more dung burning.

Quote from Dr Richard

One question I have is how on earth can the CNT system work in the gas phase when all the carefully structured CNT frameworks would be vaporised?

Think Hydrotons. It seems possible, though the ID is bigger than Ed's cracks.

Would the electric fields on the inside of a CNT be enough to constrain deuterons to the center axis? Production of low energy photons would be a possible path of quantized energy release and diffuse thermalization.

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Whose eyes? What sort of demonstration? Emission of what? What does "MWCNT" mean?

Describe what you offered in somewhat more detail and I might be able to assist you.

USPTO. I have done this before, with another invention. Drive there (to the USPTO), drag the 150 pound first item into the USPTO. Show and tell. They were shocked it was not vaporware. I guess that happens a lot to them. I was mightily impressed with the people I interacted with. Patent was processed.

THIS time, no one wanted a 'sunburn'. (You will get a 'sunburn' from the gamma). Cowards.

MWCNT is a carbon nanotube with two or more concentric tubes. We try to shoot for two walls. Single walled carbon nanotubes (SWCNT) do not work at all.

I offered to combine a small amount of MWCNT's with D₂O before their eyes, with a Geiger counter as a detector. So dry MWCNT's, plus known-source D₂O; mix; measure with Geiger. Always gets some emission.

It even works with tap water sometimes, although less energetically. I say sometimes, because while it has always worked for me, it might not work in another geographic location. You can expect a total evaporation in an enclosed petri dish within 48 hours.

Quote from Dr Richard

Wrangling over patent rights won't get any of us anywhere. Until the basic physics is worked out and becomes generally accepted, only then will we have some headway. One question I have is how on earth can the CNT system work in the gas phase when all the carefully structured CNT frameworks would be vaporised? Was this one of the simplistic objections to your scheme by patent examiners? @Wyttenbach''s SO(4) physics need to be evaluated - it is a very complex algorithm which calculates the most accurate values closest to reality surpassing the Standard Model and most other theories, the concept of multi-dimensionality is making real progress in our thinking, surpassing even Einstein and Sternglass's ideas. But then again, they didn't have the computing tech we now have for solving such complex algorithms.

Like I said elsewhere, smarter people will figure everything out once the patent issues. I will consider that success, even if nothing else happens., because once it is 'out there', it will evolve. I am not omniscient. Just observant and single-minded. Stubborn, if you will.

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We can do that. Low kilowatts now, higher soon. But we need money to do so.

When you say "we can do that," do you mean it is possible, or that you have actually done it? I suppose you mean it is possible with money.

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Like I said elsewhere, smarter people will figure everything out once the patent issues.

If they cannot figure it out, the patent will be invalid. It has to teach everything you know about the invention, from a practical standpoint. Not theory. Patent experts say you should not include theory in a patent.

"MWCNT is a carbon nanotube with two or more concentric tubes. We try to shoot for two walls" >>>

Shoot for two carbon walls

DD reaction yields vs crystallographic directions channelling in deuterated columnar polycrystalline diamond film >>>

Various DD reaction yields vs channelling in columnar diamond films

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1408/1408.7109.pdf

ORDERED ARRAYS OF CARBON NANOTUBES

Anisotropy of yields in Pd+D

What Iwamura does not say is that its layers are impermeable to hydrogen diffusion.

Also its famous secret treatment must be a sputtering deposit which creates this kind of columns according to the process setting.

At the beginning [1989] Soviet reseachers tried sodium-tungsten columnar bronzes

Nano-columnar

Gozzi anisotropies

https://www.researchgate.net/p…up_4_He_in_the_DPd_system

A) Reproducible nuclear reactions during interaction of deuterium with oxide tungsten bronze [1993]

B) Sodium tungsten bronzes as plasmonic materials [2014]

"The addition of Na into the lattice increases the free electron density, increasing the bulk plasma frequency. Nanoparticle plasmon resonances are found to be highly tunable, and generally at a lower frequency than Au or Ag"

it's strange that what you shared Ahlfors was never considered by the community ?

We well know the Italian school, the Japanese school also the P&F way by rusty old guard however never this Russian ? work ?

Disclosure of Invention

A distinctive feature of experiments which have been carried out by a group from Institute of High-Temperature Electrochemistry and Ural Polytechnical Institute (Ekaterinburg, Russia) and comprising at least one inventor of the instant invention is the utilization of oxidized sodium-tungsten bronze Na_xWo₃. The results of the experiments are reported in an article by K. Kaliev et al. entitled "In Frontiers of Cold Fusion", 1993, Universal Academy Press, Inc., p.241-244; and by K.A. Kaliev, A.N.Baraboshkin, A.L.Samgin et al. in Physics Letters A172 (1993), p.199-202.

Various degrees of tungsten valence states in bronze, rigidity of tungsten-oxygen octahedral frame and high mobility of the alkaline metal ions allow production of specific structures with extensive channels and ionic conductivity. In one series of experiments, bronze monocrystals of 8 to 12 mm size were placed in a vacuum chamber (10^-5 to 10^-6 torr) and subjected to heating in the presence of electric field. The monocrystals were cooled down to the room temperature and the chamber was filled with deuterium. Consistently, neutron- and gamma-radiation was recorded in excess of background quantities, amounting to a few hundred neutrons per minute. Such experiments demonstrated qualitative reproducibility of neutron signals.

Such experiments demonstrated the possibility of achieving nuclear reactions involving deuterium in solids, in particular in solid electrolytes with cation-electronic conductivity. Monocrystals of oxide tungsten bronze were used in such electrolytes to produce structures that determine the directions of deuterium ions movement.

https://patentscope.wipo.int/s…il.jsf?docId=WO1995015563

Sputtering

Wrong equipment >>> no or low yields

Ahlfors Very impressive files you shared i already have however not full detailed as yours thanks again.

You can be sure that Iwamura's team well know this to built their secret layers as Celani said

Now if you have information to put this type of peaks onto an AH50 powder , you will help me..thanks

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