Cydonia Perhaps the Lattice Energy Converter LEC group is busy getting ready, preparing to present more advanced works at the Solid State Energy Summit....
Some things of interest have been gleaned from this thread. It seems most folks have moved on to something else or lost interest due to more recent research disclosures...
Yes, things are happening. There will be more news and more data soon.
This thread is so long so if someone could help me to get the file summarizing all the available data ?
Thanks
IWAHLM Assisi 2021 latest.pdf This slide bundle dates back 6 months or so- but it is a convenient quick catch-up.
Assisi IWAHLM 2021 prsentation.pdf This is a more comprehensive view of the whole thing.
This paper shows another possible method of implanting lots of Hydrogen into ferrous metals. Since we postulate that the LEC effect depends on this, such a syatem might be helpful in improving performance...
I am semiconductor engineer and I know the implantation process of hydrogen and I also thought previously this implantation works but I quit the development even I had a fund because of the longer process time.
Loading with D2 gas is by far shorter loading time.
nkodama, the ion implantation process used in semiconductor industry is very slow compared to electrolytic loading. The advantage is that you can implant whatever ion you want (more or less...) For example Mastromatteo implanted Boron ions on a thin film of Pd deposited on a Silicon wafer. And he saw transmutations after irradiating with a small power laser (I think this has been replicated by J.P. Biberian). Actually Mastrommatteo once told me that the Boron was really not necessary.
I think that Frank's group tried to load the LEC with Deuterium instead of Hydrogen, but the results were not very different.
Low loading could be more relevant maybe ? Only a quick thought, maybe the loading speed could play a role for hydrogen interaction with the metal. Hydrogen loaded becoming hydride so attached with the host metal or remained free ...
If for example the reaction needs an hydride and a free hydrogen, loading speed variation could be relevant ?
nkodama, the ion implantation process used in semiconductor industry is very slow compared to electrolytic loading. The advantage is that you can implant whatever ion you want (more or less...) For example Mastromatteo implanted Boron ions on a thin film of Pd deposited on a Silicon wafer. And he saw transmutations after irradiating with a small power laser (I think this has been replicated by J.P. Biberian). Actually Mastrommatteo once told me that the Boron was really not necessary.
I think that Frank's group tried to load the LEC with Deuterium instead of Hydrogen, but the results were not very different.
This would be a nano-scale version of Fleischmann & Pons cathodic Pd experiment and is where I hope real progress in LENR is made.
The LENR-Forum team are proud to present the first of a new series of video discussions, where prominent LENR researchers meet to present, discuss and answer questions about their work. In this session we look at the LEC, a simple device that produces electricity directly, in a way which is not entirely understood. Such a device has the potential to be a game-changer, because although in its current form the electrical output is tiny it offers the possibility of creating silent, non-polluting and inexpensive batteries which never need recharging. Though that is at the moment a distant target.
The content here is in two parts – Part 1 is a 20 minute video made by Frank Gordon and Harper Whitehouse in which they share views of a LEC device in action, and describe and run some basic tests. Part 2 is a panel discussion hosted by the forum team and introduced by Ruby Carat in which Frank and Harper answer questions. The panel includes well-known LENR researchers, from the USA Professor David Nagel and Andrew Erickson (LANL -Retired), Fabrice David and Professor Jean-Paul Biberian from France. All the scientists on the panel have direct hands-on experience of the LEC system, or in Fabrice David’s case the related Cold fusion Diode system.
The discussion is moderated by Alan Smith, and the closing words of thanks are from our very own David Nygren. We wish to thank everyone who contributed for their help and support, both on camera and behind the scenes.
Part 1 : UNDERSTANDING LENR – LATTICE ENERGY CONVERTER (LEC)
Part 2 : UNDERSTANDING LENR - Panel Q&A about the LATTICE ENERGY CONVERTER (LEC)
At the end of this second video, we have heard the second man close to Franck Gordon.
He said to plan some calculations to evaluate the speed distribution between faster ion or slowers.
This job was already done in french sorry, with results which said that helium and lithium could be faster than simple hydrogen.
So yes, it could exist a large speed difference between species.
This work is important even if the current potential has not been optimized, as I am certain it can be.
A great team effort. Most are aware that Harper Whitehouse has longstanding experience with Global Energy Corporation, et al. Amazing! Bringing LENR Electric products to market... even as a trickle charger for bigger batteries.
Best wishes and high hope for success extended.
This is an early patent worth review.
Electrolysis Reactor System that Incorporates Thermal and Galvanic Controls to Provide Improved Hydrogen Production, Storage, and Controlled Release in Suitable Conductive Interstitial or Metallic Hydride Materials
Publication number: 20160244889
Abstract: This application relates to the production, storage, and controlled release of hydrogen for use in the hydrogen economy. More specifically, it relates to a novel electrolysis system design that utilizes electrolysis of ionized vapors and gasses to produce and store hydrogen in a hydrogen host material and the capability to reverse the electrolysis potential to provide safe, controlled hydrogen release.
Type: Application
Filed: February 24, 2015
Publication date: August 25, 2016
Inventors: Frank E. Gordon, Harper J. Whitehouse, Stanislaw Szpak
Not sure about this information that Global Energy Corporation having a headquarters in Japan.
JedRothwell The site is Japanese can you see if is correct. If not I'll delete it.
From Apollo
Display MoreI notice there are three or four threads on the Forum concerning the JWK SPAWAR GEC NASA CMNS LENR energy tech... Should they be combined in some way?
Here is their latest patent. It was filed back in 2018 by Inovl Inc., though it looks like there is a previous partial iteration from 2015, Electrolysis Reactor System, by Frank Gordon.
Inovl Inc. is new 2017, formed shortly before the patent was filed. They are certainly affiliated with GEC et al ...
The inventors are Frank Gordon and Harper John Whitehouse. This advanced CMNS tech LENR-Electric patent claims a flow of electrons, useful electrical current, from the 'cold fusion' reaction. It most likely is the tech behind the EV charger being offered by GEC. gbgoblenote-The a priori USGovt./JWK/Forsley patent, 2007 System and Method for Generating Particles has just been granted an extension till 2030... Twenty three years... a bit unusual.
The PatentGaseous Phase Ionizing Radiation Generator
US Govt. SPAWAR/JWK (Jay Wook Khim) / (GEC) Forsley et al patent, 2007 System and Method for Generating Particles
US8419919B1 - System and method for generating particles - Google Patents
Unusual patent history which speaks volumes of effort and tenacity. Filed 2007. Published and granted on the same day in 2013. Recently the rights have been extended to 2030. Many who think that cold fusion patents are not granted might find this of interest.
I certainly find it interesting and return to it searching for recent patents that cite this a priori patent. Sometimes a recent citing patent is an improved iteration of the old cited patent, othertimes a sister patent connected by a related research group. That's what I look for.
The 2007 System and Method for Generating Particles now has on its' list of citing patents this sister patent...
US11232880B2 - Lattice energy conversion device - Google Patents
Inventors: Frank E Gordon
Harper John Whitehouse
Application US17/334,562 events
2020-06-19
Priority to US202063041722P
2021-05-28
Application filed by Inovi Inc
2021-05-28
2021-11-24
2021-12-23
Publication of US20210398767A1
2022-01-25
Application granted
2022-01-25
Here is another Sister Patent
74:975-995. (2003). [012] Boss, et al, filed U.S. Provisional Patent Application Serial No. 60/919,190, on March 14, 2007, entitled "Method and Apparatus for Generating Particles", which is incorporated by reference in its entirety and Serial No. 11/859,499, ['499]
Seems relevant so I'm posting it.
Move if needed. It is a cited patent in the LEC patent. Fascinating the obscure references to early LENR.
Inventor Benzion Landa
Current Assignee Landa Labs 2012 Ltd https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170133956A1
NOTE
which employs a quantum mechanical tunneling effect according to which a particle can penetrate through a potential barrier higher than its kinetic energy. A thermotunneling converter includes a hot surface and a cold surface, and typically operates in vacuum. The surfaces are held sufficiently close to one another so as to allow electrons to move from the hot surface to the cold surface by tunneling.
Description of a thermotunneling converter is found in U.S. Pat. Nos. 3,169,200 and 6,876,123.
A hybrid energy converter which combines the thermionic and thermotunneling principles
is disclosed in U.S. Pat. No. 6,489,704.
NOTE
[0007]Also of interest is an essay by J. M. Dudley, entitled
“Maxwell's Pressure Demon and the Second Law of Thermodynamics”,
Infinite Energy Magazine 66
(2006) 21.
Dudley describes a device which includes a pair of aluminum plates with two fiberglass screens between the aluminum plates with a copper foil between the fiberglass screens. Dudley claims that a voltage drop across the device was increased when a pressure was applied on the aluminum plates.
Dudley attempts to dismiss ambient humidity so as to exclude or reduce the effect of electrochemical reaction and postulates that the voltage drop results from the tunneling effect.
Preparation and Characterization of Palladium Tritide Superconductors
Dudley describes a device which includes a pair of aluminum plates with two fiberglass screens between the aluminum plates with a copper foil between the fiberglass screens. Dudley claims that a voltage drop across the device was increased when a pressure was applied on the aluminum plates.
This is interesting. I (and Matt Lilley) have seen similar behaviour in an experiment using teflon-coated glass-fibre barbecue mesh as a single spacer between a playing card size brass electrode placed on top of a very large block of aluminium. Pressure was applied by stacking lead weights on top of the brass. We put the phenomenon down to 'unknown artefact' possibly due to working in a cold and possibly damp lab.
“Maxwell's Pressure Demon and the Second Law of Thermodynamics”,
Infinite Energy Magazine 66
(2006) 21.
This very interesting patent (which cites the Dudley experiment mentioned) describes something similar to the LEC, including the idea of modifying the surfaces by electrochemical means. It is actually described as a thermo-electric generator which does not require there to be a significant temperature gradient across the cell..
US20110148248A1 - Device and method for generating electricity - Google Patents
describes something similar to the LEC
Display More3He nanobubbles created by radioactive decay of tritium in palladium tritide are investigated after several years of aging. Scanning Transmission Electron Microscopy Electron Energy-Loss Spectroscopy (STEM-EELS) has been used to measure helium density from the helium K-edge around 23 eV. Helium densities were found between 20 and 140 (+/-30) He/nm3 and the corresponding nanobubble pressures range between
0.1 and 3 (+/-0.2) GPa.
gbgoblenoteWithin metallic Helium range?
.01GPa (986 atmospheres)
3 GPa (30,000 atmospheres)
also of interest is the investigation of palladium tritide by Lawrence Forsley.
also of interest is the investigation of palladium tritide by Lawrence Forsley
Yes- but off topic here
Created a new dedicated thread for comments about the simposium videos here:
