IWAHLM Conference September 25th 2022

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The Basilica of St Francis.

Mathieu Valat and Svein Oloffson.

Claudio Pace and Bill Collis, conference organisers.

Francesco Celani. and family.

Ruby's comic book - a conference souvenir.

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Хочется в Азизи...

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Remembering the old film fogging tests from BARC; note that they were using a very small gap, and directly exposing the emulsion. They found that paper would block the 'rays' - but they had no idea what those rays were,

I do not think so. Maybe we are talking about different experiments but . . . when Srinivasan sent me the slides and x-ray film shown at LENR-CANR.org (https://lenr-canr.org/?page_id=187#PhotosSrinivasan), he told me they sometimes used two or three films on top of one another, to confirm the same pattern was seen on all of them, in the same positions. It was attenuated, but the same. That ruled out the possibility the pattern was caused by water leaks or something other than x-rays.

I recall this was discussed in some of the papers.

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Maybe we are talking about different experiments but

I think we are. I was too tired to find the paper I was referring to last night, and can't find now either! (will post a link when I track it down). The images you linked to certainly do suggest X Rays.

Alexandrov’s presentation and Q&A session was very dynamic. We have to consider he is working as part of the European Clean MHE project so this very positive result is not to be taken lightly.

JedRothwell - Found it. I was actually talking about this paper:

EMISSIONS FROM PALLADIUM DEUTERIDE/HYDRIDE. R. K. Rout, et al. 1996

Looking at it again, there are all sorts of oddities - and some of the conclusions could be quite wide of the mark, when comparing it to later work by other people.

The charge field effects could be evidence of gas phase electrophoresis, I guess, and they don't seem to be differentiating between effects from ion migration and from direct "ray" transmission. But this was all new, and mysterious, so that is not too surprising.

I'm going to really have to start doing some of these tests myself (I've already got most of the electrical kit required - if it still works, after a couple of house moves). It doesn't feel right to just rely on other people's hard work.

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JedRothwell - Found it. I was actually talking about this paper:

EMISSIONS FROM PALLADIUM DEUTERIDE/HYDRIDE. R. K. Rout, et al. 1996

Looking at it again, there are all sorts of oddities - and some of the conclusions could be quite wide of the mark, when comparing it to later work by other people.

The charge field effects could be evidence of gas phase electrophoresis, I guess, and they don't seem to be differentiating between effects from ion migration and from direct "ray" transmission. But this was all new, and mysterious, so that is not too surprising.

I'm going to really have to start doing some of these tests myself (I've already got most of the electrical kit required - if it still works, after a couple of house moves). It doesn't feel right to just rely on other people's hard work.

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That’s great, the more the merrier.

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JedRothwell - Found it. I was actually talking about this paper:

EMISSIONS FROM PALLADIUM DEUTERIDE/HYDRIDE. R. K. Rout, et al. 1996

Okay, I have this one. My copy is somewhat cleaner.

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RoutRKreproducib.pdf

Here is the paper describing the x-ray film I uploaded:

Rout, R.K., M. Srinivasan, and A. Shyam, Autoradiography of Deuterated Ti and Pd Targets for Spatially Resolved Detection of Tritium Produced by Cold Fusion, in BARC Studies in Cold Fusion, P.K. Iyengar and M. Srinivasan, Editors. 1989, Atomic Energy Commission: Bombay. p. B 3.

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RoutRKautoradiog.pdf

As I recalled, it says: "At times a stack of several films was used. In some cases films were placed on both sides of the sample."

The papers published by BARC are here:

BARC Studies In Cold Fusion

Assisi Nel Vento videos

Iwamura..

Heatbursts..trapped hydrogen hypothesis TM46.55

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It seems VUV (Vacuum UV) is absorbed by atmospheric gases - which is why they don't reach the surface of the earth (and hence their name). So their range is very short in air - and they are also blocked by most "light transparent" materials - such as glass (e.g. a thin glass microscope slide!)

It sounds like a good candidate photon band, as it may be difficult to detect, but also causes mild gas ionisation....

This company makes relevant detectors. Other products might be available from other companies.

https://www.semiconductor-toda…sep/ganoopto-050922.shtml

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For some XRF work we use helium as an atmosphere gas shield, in order to knock out some interferences, Select other gasses may allow windows of detection without too much ionization interference. This might be easier than a vacuum.

O2 as well as N2 are directly heated at VUV frequencies...

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Iwamura..

Heatbursts..trapped hydrogen hypothesis TM46.55

This was also mentioned in the "hydrogen embrittlement" webinar, linked in the LEC thread last week. The "conventional" (i.e. non-LENR) hypothesis involves migration of trapped monatomic hydrogen to zones of concentration (e.g. grain boundaries, dislocations, etc) where they exothermically recombine.

Those of us who have experienced the sudden fracture of "hydrogen embrittled" high tensile steel bolts, a few hours after being put under normal preload (i.e. torque-fastened on assembly), will be familiar with the effects.

However, there is a big difference between a "conventional hypothesis" and a complete, and proven, theoretical explanation of the final effect. So this is still very much a continuing area of research, outside of the LENR field - and there is still plenty of mystery.

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My interview with Professor Iwamura. This is unedited so please excuse the false start. BUT worth watching as I get him to talk fairly freely about their commercialisation plans.

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Thanks Alan Smith , It was very good and to the point. The key take away for me is that Miura is developing the scaling up using Clean Planet’s method. That’s very interesting, even if the people involved are the same of Clean Planet, which I don’t know but one could assume to be the case, because it tells Miura as a company is fully convinced it can be scaled up.

I think your conclusions and expectations are too fast..

Here below a picture of and "hydrogen cluster" inside through a proton conductor.

Quote from Frogfall

This was also mentioned in the "hydrogen embrittlement" webinar, linked in the LEC thread last week. The "conventional" (i.e. non-LENR) hypothesis involves migration of trapped monatomic hydrogen to zones of concentration (e.g. grain boundaries, dislocations, etc) where they exothermically recombine.

Those of us who have experienced the sudden fracture of "hydrogen embrittled" high tensile steel bolts, a few hours after being put under normal preload (i.e. torque-fastened on assembly), will be familiar with the effects.

However, there is a big difference between a "conventional hypothesis" and a complete, and proven, theoretical explanation of the final effect. So this is still very much a continuing area of research, outside of the LENR field - and there is still plenty of mystery.

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I think your conclusions and expectations are too fast..

What conclusions? What expectations?

I've been waiting for a decent theory on the mechanisms of hydrogen embrittlement for 40 years - and people have been researching it for over a century. It would have certainly helped my work, had I not had to worry about people being accidentally killed by the stuff I was designing

What is the source of those images, btw?

Dear robert bryant could you share this entire ppt Iwamura last release ?

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Iwamura..

Heatbursts..trapped hydrogen hypothesis TM46.55

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entire ppt Iwamura last release ?

TM 46.55 around

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because it tells Miura as a company is fully convinced it can be scaled up.