Some comments from ECW :
Everyone agrees SKled lumens is too low.
One user calculated he'd have to spend $60K for a whole-house SKlep system (but he was rating it for a full 200A service, which is way over what is actually used.)
Some concern that there may be spikey waveforms where the input power was measured. An oscilloscope would have negated that.
Another suggested a thermometer in the resistor oil bath. But without a full calorimeter that would be useless.
Everyone agreed the presentation was worse than a 4th grade science fair project.
The Long Awaited Dec 9th 2021 Ecat SKLed and SKLep Presentation Thread
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LENR Partners
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I vote playground merge.
(Or does advertising revenue prevent this?)
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Summary of the written report* about prototype B :
+ On the positive side, Mr. Rossi did get a third party to test the device & write a technical report
However :
- Dr. Levi's independence / credibility is not unquestionable given previous involvement
- It is unclear where the test took place, presumably in a space controlled by Mr. Rossi and in his presence
- It is unclear whose instruments were used, presumably Mr. Rossi's
- A significant part of the electronics were not weighed, it cannot be excluded that the auxiliary electronics contained a battery or similar.
Conclusions :
1. The report is far from conclusive with important omissions, as with a previous Rossi-related publication by Levi et al. in 2013, which was criticised by Ericsson and Pomp for lack of rigour.
2. Dr. Levi, and by extension the University of Bologna, may be faulted for a level of naïveté. They should know by now that Mr. Rossi will use their report to lure investors and/or customers. It cannot have escaped their attention that Mr. Rossi was sued for fraud in a US court over the very same technology a few years back. This in itself does not invalidate his claims, but it should have inspired extra caution and stricter conditions by Unibo.
3. If Mr. Rossi cannot even at this stage trust Dr. Levi enough to let him do a truly independent test in Dr. Levi's own lab, then the chances that he will ever deliver anything to anyone may be reasonably assessed as being vanishingly small.
*Measurement of SK-Ecat performance in a series of sessions from October 20 to November 19 2021 - by Giuseppe Levi
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LOL.
So for 250 bucks, you refuse to prove your conviction. Hundreds of hours spent disproving Rossi by words and reproductions, but can't dig deep enough for a single ep order? You could even claim that you were scammed when you don't receive it. What do you have to lose?
I have a calorimeter and an open invitation to test some SKleds as delivered.
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wasting your time on lumen calculations it is same as wondering how illusionist fit so many rabbits in a such a small box.
The presentation is another crap. Just take 'production' lamp, crack it open and show us that it is more than 5 dollar alibaba lamp with ecat sticker on it. Show us how all that AI bearing hardware was fitted in etc.
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I have a calorimeter and an open invitation to test some SKleds as delivered.
But you refuse to order and test an ep?
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can Rossi rename Leonarrrrrdo now into 'Not SO Brilliant Light Power'?
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But you refuse to order and test an ep?
I refuse to order one, some or, or anything from Rossi, period.
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I refuse to order one, some or, or anything from Rossi, period.
Other than please cease and desist. Find a nice hobby like photography of famous world locations or something.
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I refuse to order one, some or, or anything from Rossi, period.
Do you refuse to measure the input and output power of an ep?
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Do you refuse to measure the input and output power of an ep?
Will I eat moon cheese if you went to the moon and proved it was made of it?
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Will I eat moon cheese if you went to the moon and proved it was made of it?
My presumption is no. This comports with the cardinal sin.
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IH Fanboy: do you seriously believe that anyone other than handpicked Rossi stooges will ever get their hands on one of his devices to test?
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wasting your time on lumen calculations it is same as wondering how illusionist fit so many rabbits in a such a small box.
The presentation is another crap. Just take 'production' lamp, crack it open and show us that it is more than 5 dollar alibaba lamp with ecat sticker on it. Show us how all that AI bearing hardware was fitted in etc.
Max, I make technical calculation for work every day so it's not an effort, the above are based on basic physics, just to check the usual magician's fake and they are based on very simple math.
If still are people that continue to believe him I can only suggest them to wake their brain.
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IH Fanboy: do you seriously believe that anyone other than handpicked Rossi stooges will ever get their hands on one of his devices to test?
I don't seriously believe such a thing. You are the one that seriously believes that nobody will ever get their hands on one of his devices to test.
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can is probably better at this, but a first guess of the sklep jumble of parts is :
A power supply, large, makes around 14V for the Hella-type HID control module which has the driver signal jumpered to another high frequency power supply that runs the HID lamp (replacing that part of the original Hella-type driver). The HID lamp is in part of the original metal housing. The wires in the white llid probably do nothing.
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My presumption is no. This comports with the cardinal sin.
Whatever.
What do you think of the presentation?
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Whatever.
What do you think of the presentation?
The presentation is meaningless.
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You are wrong. The testing was done at UNIBO's Pysics/Astrophysics lab
That's an interesting snippet Alan - could you elaborate on this? The table on the pictures in the report resemble the one that is visible in the video, which doesn't look like it was shot in a physics lab...
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That's an interesting snippet Alan - could you elaborate on this?
Did they sneak in at night? Pinball fans need to know.
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