JedRothwell Thanks

My question also inferences those very heavy looking rocks.🌎

Just like you, I'm not sure if Iwamura stimulated Mitsubishi Heavy Industries' invested interest in CMNS energy technologies and deepened their curiosity either.

On the other hand, I must consider that MHI is the largest defence contractor in Japan. Who knows what they are doing... Whatever it is that MHI is doing, I'm certain they are good at it.

Unlike David Kidwell.

One must read all of this bit of MHI Japan U.S. DoD CMNS/LENR history as it pertains to this thread... In its entirety. Rob Woudenberg I find this to be the second most interesting story in cold fusion history. Exceptional expose by Steven Krivit. I still can't figure it out. The contingent from Japan was not pleased.

David Kidwell (Naval Research Laboratory)

NRL Salvo Attacks Validity of Mitsubishi LENR Research

David Kidwell -Naval Research Laboratory

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Since 2008, Kidwell has criticized the heavy-element transmutation results reported by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries in its long-standing low-energy nuclear reaction (LENR) research program.

On May 6, 2016, David Kidwell, a scientist at the Naval Research Laboratory, released his latest attack criticizing the work of Japanese LENR researchers. In an email to an invitation-only but public Google discussion group, Kidwell wrote, using his NRL e-mail account, “eventually, we will get to that the Mitsubishi Heavy Industries data is not real.

Two days earlier, on May 4, 2016, as reported by New Energy Times, a U.S. congressional committee took the unprecedented step of requesting from the Department of Defense a national security briefing on the implications of LENRs. - end quotes

Wikipedia-MHI

"Through its defense-related activities, it (MHI) is the world's 23rd-largest defense contractor measured by 2011 defense revenues and the largest based in Japan."

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David Kidwell.

The 2010 patent by Kidwell/USNavy represents something of a lost opportunity

WO2011041370A1 - Excess enthalpy upon pressurization of nanosized metals with deuterium - Google Patents

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Excess enthalpy upon pressurization of nanosized metals with deuterium"

if only the navy was more ecological

robert bryant

Yes - A missed opportunity.

David Kidwell dropped off the radar then reappeared.

Now he creates fuel for LENR reactors.

Metal Nanoparticles with a Pre-Selected Number of Atoms

WO US US20120144956A1 David A. Kidwell Kidwell

Priority 2010-12-13 • Filed 2011-12-12

Has anybody managed to replicate Mizuno's reactor configuration yet? The other Japanese co-deposition work according to Takahashi's group looks maybe more promising but still only has managed transient rises in excess heat......which leaves their research progress perhaps only level with the major players in the US.

There are two reports of some modest excess heat from a Mizuno system. Key problem here is that I have been told he is not using the exact methodology that was published. Tricky.

Personally i don't except that Mizuno's replications have not been fully successfull everywhere.

Now, i have no doubt about Muzuno's integrity and probably his reactor "close to his chimney" done as XSH what he announced.

However i expect it was only a lucky trial as in the past some P&F experiments, without clearly understand what happened exactly.

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Key problem here is that I have been told he is not using the exact methodology that was published. Tricky.

He keeps changing the methodology. He is so busy, we don't get a chance to update the documents to keep up. He may also be filing patents. I wouldn't know about that.

Having said that, the published methods should work, even if better method were developed. There were two replications showing they did work, in China and India. But the level of heat per unit of surface or mass of palladium was much lower than what Mizuno reported. That is disappointing. I have no idea why these replications produced so much less heat.

Trying to understand how the past may have influenced the recent decision, 'Japan to Pay Companies to Keep Sensitive Patents Secret'.

This article, by Ruby Carat at Cold Fusion Now, provides another perspective of these events.

Quote (found in the middle of Ruby's article)

At every ICCF, researchers from agencies, academia, and private industry have met to untangle one of the greatest scientific questions in history: what conditions can cause such great heat to occur in tiny pieces of metal when exposed to hydrogen?

To find an answer, workshops have been conducted by every branch of the U.S. military, with the Naval Research Lab (NRL) scheduled to present results of their decades-long program at the next ICCF-18 meeting to be held at the University of Missouri, Columbia, Missouri. The NRL’s David Kidwell will deliver a keynote speech on the opening day. - end quotes

wikipedia – COLD FUSION NOW!

One would think Japan MHI and U.S. Naval national security research agencies would have avenues to pursue CMNS energy technologies together in relative secrecy and mutual assistance. Each defense agency would profit from such.

I still expect to see coordinated cooperation and technology sharing between Japan and U.S. security interests for CMNS entry into energy markets.

Yet...

Seemingly, David Kidwell's attack (USNRL funded) was unexpected by MHI researchers, violated trust, and involved public loss of face for eight years.

Did that damage US Japan relations?

Did it damage the reputation of Condensed Matter Nuclear Science?

I assume MHI was aware of what US agencies were doing during that time: 2008 thru 2012/2013 up till 2016. Myself and others were and wrote extensively about the following events. Claims of transmutation were clearly presented by the Navy.

Did these events influence the recent actions?

Japan to Pay Companies to Keep Sensitive Patents Secret

Future historians are likely to analyze every detail of early cold fusion research and commercial development. LENR Forum is a repository for such historical research.

2008 Patent (SPAWAR JWK LENR tech) “A hybrid fusion fast fission reactor”WO2009108331A2 - Publication date: Dec 30, 2009 - Priority date: Feb 25, 2008 Inventors: Lawrence Parker Galloway Forsley, Jay Wook Khim - Applicant: Lawrence Parker Gallow Forsley https://www.google.com/patents/WO2009108331A2

2008 DoD Grant (2014 patent publication date) “Deuterium Reactor”US20130235963A1 $25,000 was received in 2008 from NSWC, Indian Head Division, to design experiments, review reports, and analyze data. The experiments verified heating using powered/granulated fuel. editor note

Quote: “As a United States Department of Defense (DoD) Energetics Center, Naval Surface Warfare Center, Indian Head Division is a critical component of the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) Warfare Center (WFC) Enterprise. One of the WFC’s nine Divisions, Indian Head’s mission is to research, develop, test, evaluate, and produce energetics and energetic systems for U.S. fighting forces.” -end note Filed: Mar 12, 2012 Publication date: Sep 12, 2013

Inventor: Pharis Edward Williams Original Assignee: Pharis Edward Williams https://www.google.com/patents/US20130235963A1

2009 thru 2010 NASA-LaRC SpaceWorks Contract (applied engineering)

Quote: “SpaceWorks conducted separate vehicle design studies evaluating the potential impact of two advanced propulsion system concepts under consideration by NASA Langley Research Center: The first concept was an expendable multistage rocket vehicle which utilized an advanced Air-Augmented Rocket (AAR) engine. The effect of various rocket thrust augmentation ratios were identified the resulting vehicle design where compared against a traditional expendable rocket concept. The second concept leverage Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR), a new form of energy generation being studied at NASA LaRC, to determine how to utilize an LENR-based propulsion system for space access. For this activity, two LENR-based rocket engine propulsion performance models where developed jointly by SpaceWorks and LaRC personnel.” -end quote See: “SpaceWorks Advanced Concepts Group (ACG) Overview” October 2012 PowerPoint presentation, page 31. http://www.sei.aero/eng/papers…ts_Group_ACG_Overview.pdf

2009 Navy Patent “Excess enthalpy upon pressurization of nanosized metals with deuterium” WO2011041370A1 - Original Assignee: The Government Of The United States Of America, As Represented By The Secretary Of The Navy - Inventor: David A. Kidwell - Priority date: Sep 29, 2009 - Publication date: Mar 31, 2011 - The present application claims the benefit of United States Provisional Application Serial No. 61/246,619 by David A. Kidwell, filed September 29, 2009 entitled “ANOMALOUS HEAT GENERATION FROM DEUTERIUM (OR PLATINUM) LOADED NANOPARTICLES.” GRANT issued: Nov 10, 2015 https://www.google.com/patents/WO2011041370A1

2009 November Defense Intelligence Agency (LENR report) DIA-08-0911-003 Technology Forecast: “Worldwide Research on Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions Increasing and Gaining Acceptance” Quote, “LENR power sources could produce the greatest transformation of the battlefield for U.S. forces since the transition from horsepower to gasoline power.” -end quote Prepared by: Beverly Barnhart, DIA/DI, Defense Warning Office. With contributions from: Dr. Patrick McDaniel, University of New Mexico; Dr. Pam Mosier-Boss, U.S. Navy SPAWAR/Pacific; Dr. Michael McKubre, SRI International; Mr. Lawrence Forsley, JWK International; and Dr. Louis DeChiaro, NSWC/Dahlgren. Coordinated with DIA/DRI, CPT, DWO, DOE/IN, US Navy SPAWAR/Pacific and U.S. NSWC/Dahlgren,VA. http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BarnhartBtechnology.pdf

2010 Navy Patent (LENR fuel) “Metal nanoparticles with a pre-selected number of atoms” US 8728197 B2 - Original Assignee: The United States Of America, As Represented By The Secretary Of The Navy - Inventors: Albert Epshteyn, David A. Kidwell GRANT issued: May 20, 2014 https://www.google.com/patents/US8728197B2

(editor note) E-Cat’s first public demo by Rossi in January 2011

2011 Nov. (SPAWAR LENR news) Quote, “On or about Nov. 9, 2011, Rear Admiral Patrick Brady , commander of SPAWAR, ordered SPAWAR researchers to terminate all LENR research.” -end quote A New Energy Times article titled,“Navy Commander Halts SPAWAR LENR Research” by Steven Krivit http://news.newenergytimes.net…lts-spawar-lenr-research/

2011 NASA Patent “Method for Producing Heavy Electrons” US20110255645A1 Inventor: Joseph M. Zawodny - Assignee: USA As Represented By The Administrator Of NASA - Pursuant to 35U.S.C. §119, the benefit of priority from U.S. Provisional Patent Application Ser. No. 61/317,379, with a filing date of Mar. 25, 2010, is claimed for this non-provisional application, the contents of which are hereby incorporated by reference in their entirety. The invention was made by an employee of the United States Government and may be manufactured and used by or for the Government of the United States of America for governmental purposes without the payment of any royalties thereon or therefor. Publication date: Oct 20, 2011 - Filing date: Mar 24, 2011 https://www.google.com/patents/US20110255645A1

2012 NASA/Boeing Publication (applied engineering) NASA Contract NNL08AA16B – NNL11AA00T “Subsonic Ultra Green Aircraft Research – Phase II N+4 Advanced Concept Development”

(editor note) The NASA Working Group Report also makes public the following list of organizations and individuals working on the advanced concept contract:

Boeing

Marty Bradley, Christopher Droney, Zachary Hoisington, Timothy Allen, Dwaine Cotes, Yueping Guo, Brian Foist, Blaine Rawdon, Sean Wakayama, Emily Dallara, Ed Kowalski, Joe Wa, Ismail Robbana, Sergey Barmichev, Larry Fink, Mithra Sankrithi, Edward White

General Electric

Kurt Murrow, Jeff Hammel, Srini Gowda

Georgia Tech

Michelle Kirby, Hongjun Ran, Teawoo Nam, Jimmy Tai, Chris Perullo

Vermont Tech

Joe Schetz, Rakesh Kapania

NASA

Mark Guynn, Erik Olson, Gerald Brown, Larry Leavitt, Richard Wahls, Doug Wells, James Felder, Casey Burley, John Martin

Federal Aviation Administration

Rhett Jeffries, Christopher Sequiera

Subsonic Ultra Green Aircraft Research Phase II: N+4 Advanced Concept Development - NASA Technical Reports Server (NTRS)

2012 National Institute of Aeronautics and NASA (applied engineering)

“MPD Augmentation of a Thermal Air Rocket Utilizing Low Energy Nuclear Reactions”Roger Lepsch, NASA Langley Research Center; Matt Fischer, National Institute of Aerospace; Christopher Jones, National Institute of Aerospace; Alan Wilhite, National Institute of Aerospace. Presented at the 53rd AIAA/ASME/ASCE/AHS/ASC Structures, Structural Dynamics and Materials Conference, April 26, 2012 https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2012-1351

2012 Global Energy Corporation news (SPAWAR JWK LENR tech)

“Virginia Firm Offers Nuclear Energy” Jun 2012 - Emmanuel T. Erediano http://www.mvariety.com/cnmi/c…offers-nuclear-energy.php

Quote:

“Lawrence P.G. Forsley, vice president for science and technology of Global Energy Corp. (globalenergycorporation.com), said their “revolutionary technology” is based on the “new science of hybrid fusion fast fission” green nuclear energy, or “Genie.”

Forsley said he is among the GEC scientists who conducted 23 years of research and development with the U.S. Navy. He said they completed the design of a safe, clean, secure and affordable green hybrid fusion nuclear reactor for commercial uses.

Genie reactors, he said, don’t use a uranium-235 chain reaction. Without a chain reaction, there can’t be a runaway, core meltdown, no explosions initiated by the meltdowns and no radioactive fallout, he added. Genie reactors, Forsley said, don’t have nuclear waste problems.

It doesn’t need a spent fuel pool nor a spent fuel waste storage dump. It “burns” uranium-238 that comprises 95 percent of conventional nuclear waste. Therefore, Genie actually “cleans” nuclear waste, he added.

Dayberry said Genie will cut consumer power costs by 50 percent.” -end quotes

ALSO “Guam Eyes Clean Nuclear Power” http://www.mvariety.com/cnmi/c…-eyes-clean-nuclear-power

Quote:

“We’re generation five,” Dr. Khim (President of Global Energy Corp) told the Variety during an exclusive interview, “and first of all this is a brand new concept.” He said safety is the first consideration, and that cannot be ensured by building higher walls around reactors, as Japan saw last year with Fukushima.

“You have to change the basic science of nuclear power,” Khim explained. “We’ve been working with the U.S. Navy for about 22 years and the basic science phase is now over. Now we’re going into commercial development, which the Navy is not going to do.” But Khim says the science has been repeatedly duplicated by the Navy, and has been proven, recognized and published.

Officials of the Navy on Guam, including Capt. John V. Heckmann Jr., CO of Naval Facilities and a professional engineer, attended the GEC briefing. The GEC board of directors, Khim says, includes some well-known Washington D.C. Players, including former Secretary of Defense Frank Carlucci, former Congressman and Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta, and former U.S. Congressman Tom Davis, among others.” - end quotes

(editor note) E-Cat’s Ferrara, Italy tests Dec. 2012 and Mar. 2013

2013 Navy Patent (a 2009 patent continuation) “Excess enthalpy upon pressurization of dispersed palladium with hydrogen or deuterium” US9192918B2 Original Assignee: The United States Of America, As Represented By The Secretary Of The Navy - Inventors: David A. Kidwell editor note: see PRIORITY CLAIM) i.e. “All applications listed in this paragraph as well as all other publications and patent documents referred to throughout this nonprovisional application are incorporated herein by reference.” -end editor note- Filing date: Aug 8, 2013 - GRANT issued: Nov 24, 2015 https://www.google.com/patents/US9192918B2

Rob Woudenberg

This is your thread. You can move any comment here as you see fit. Seems to me MHI is a candidate, as a defence contractor developing CMNS energy technology, to be paid to keep these sensitive patents secret. The US and Japan are allies. MHI CMNS research and Kidwell history isn't much of a distraction from (more of an addition to) the comments JR posted here...

And is relevant to the defence agency policy discussed here.

Since the size of the particles to maximize excess energy production is unknown, the present invention provides a process to start with atomic palladium and during the pressurization process grow palladium through some critical size. With this scheme, heat was produced long-term (i.e., hours to days) in the presence of a constant pressure of deuterium. By varying the ligands around the palladium, ligands could be found where the growth was slowed to days rather than seconds. Furthermore, the particles after reaction were much smaller as evidenced by the color of the support being tan rather than the characteristic gray of larger particles. With the slower particle growth, energy was produced for days in the presence of a constant pressure of deuterium.

This long-term energy has been shown to be able to provide useful work (e.g., used to drive a Sterling engine).

The amount of energy in the current system is much greater than can be accounted for by D-H exchange that predominated earlier experiments with zeolites or alumina impregnated with Pd(NH₃)₄Cl₂.

(D. A. Kidwell et al., “Yes, Virginia there is Heat, but it is Likely of Chemical Origin” Proceedings of the 15^thInternational Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science, Rome, Italy, pp. 100-109, available on-line at http://iccf15.frascati.enea.it/docs/proceedings.html (October 2009))

Japan seems to be a bit late in secrecy..

perhaps it has more military stuff nowadays..

UK keeps three times as many patents secret as the US

US authorities are apparently less heavy-handed than the UK when it comes to judging patents a threat to national security

www.newscientist.com

the patents in LENR so far are yet to get any traction in the nonmilitary world let alone the military world

and don't seem to have any direct weaponising capability

unlike this published patent

US Patent Application for SYSTEM AND METHOD FOR PREDICTIVE COMPENSATION OF UPLINK LASER BEAM ATMOSPHERIC JITTER FOR HIGH ENERGY LASER WEAPON SYSTEMS Patent Application (Application #20210103032 issued April 8, 2021) - Justia Patents Search

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Almost everything can be hooked up to military applications

The rules can;t be too inclusive....patent protection by public patents is worth a lot

to companies..

eg.Shin-etsu's grain boundary patent

Announcement concerning rare earth sintered magnet grain boundary diffusion alloy method | Topics | News | Shin-Etsu Rare Earth Magnets | Shin-Etsu Chemical Co., Ltd.

It might cost the Japanese government a lot to keep this secret

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When Iwamura retired, he told me the company gave him all of the equipment he had used. That was generous of them. The equipment was set up at Tohoku U. As far as I know, there are no instruments back at his old lab for other people to use

I had not heard that Iwamura retired. He left Mitsubishi and seems to still be working. Impressive work at that. I only find the word retired linked to his name on this forum. Easy to understand how the sentences changed through the four iterations repeated here since 2016.

Review https://www.lenr-forum.com/sea…ght=%22Iwamura+retired%22

A simple translation error perhaps? Important to clear up any misconceptions this might make. Also, not sure how he would feel about it if someone said, "I heard you were retired."

Iwamura 2020

Persons

Research Center for Electron Photon Science (ELPH)

Publications

Research Center for Electron Photon Science (ELPH)

Maybe he retired from

• Research Center for Electron Photon Science (ELPH)

Last year in 2020? This is year of the latest paper listed. Not sure, Iwamura is still listed on the team. Or so it seems.

Advanced search — Tohoku University

Great team. Well equipped lab.

Excess energy generation using a nano-sized multilayer metal composite and hydrogen gas

Yasuhiro Iwamura, Takehiko Itoh, Jirohta Kasagi, Shoichi Murakami, Mari Saito

• Research Center for Electron Photon Science (ELPH)

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I know all about the Anthropocene Institute, and their claims, and that tree in their presentation, listing Mitsubishi and others. I know more about those institutions and the people working in them than Dr. Frank Ling does. I have actually worked with those people. Most of the researchers in those labs stopped working years ago because they are retired or dead. You can't do science when you are dead.

Take Mitsubishi, for example. When Iwamura retired, Mitsubishi generously donated his equipment to the university. I appreciate that. The equipment was probably worth more than a million dollars originally.

On the other hand, it is old and obsolete, and it is probably not worth much now, so it was a tax write-off.

Anyway, there are no researchers left at Mitsubishi, and the university project is barely funded and stagnating.

I do not know how well their transmutation project is going. They described their replication of Mizuno at MIT, at the ICCF conference, and in the Nikkei (which I translated).

In my opinion, based on their MIT presentation, this replication proves nothing. It is full of holes. (When I pointed out some of the holes to them, their lawyer sent me a nasty letter, which did not endear me to them.)

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This is probably much wider than specifically military applications. E.g. new energy technologies.

Perhaps, though the policy specifies military... also... for national security... which does not mean for national economic security.

Energetics and its applied engineering is the primary/core element of advancing military capabilities/national security. The US military is the world's largest consumer of gas, diesel and kerosene fuels.

For keeping abreast, I like this site. They are a wordpress site and accept articles, consider writing and submitting one. We will most likely soon see CMNS energy in-the-news at (DSIAC). -gbgoble

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