The Totally Civil Covid Thread. (Closing 31/05)

  • Where were the deaths? Almost half were In nursing homes. It is well known that Sweden has much larger senior care facilities than other Scandinavian countries, and, like Canada, senior care was abysmal in circumstances where residents and staff were sick with Covid. Sick seniors were hardly even given oxygen. This has very little to do with schools and businesses remaining open, or masking. Other factors were at play, even the timing of people returning to Sweden's from vacation in early 2020. They were hit hard, early.

    I agree that other factors were at play. That applies to all cross-country or cross-time or even cross-district (e.g. comparing states in the US). You need very sophisticated analysis to even have a chance of working out what was what.


    The one thing you can do fairly easily is to look at COVID IFR, and note it is much lower post-vaccination than pre-vaccination. From which you can say that any strategy that minimises pre-vaccination infections will be doing better. Which was always the justification for lockdowns - though it did not always work.

  • fake cases reported after a CoV-19 infection

    I hardly think the word fake here, used without justification, is very polite. It implies a major conspiracy of the medical establishment to mislead the population. Anyway, my point was that myocarditis induced by viral infections (including COVID) is not mild, and I linked an example of a healthy unvaccinated 16-year-old who died from COVID-induced myocarditis. One of the casualties of a UK vaccine rollout not quite fast enough.


    turbo cancer (1-2 months) that now kills ten thousands of older vaccinated....


    That is a disease I have never heard of, but it reminds me vaguely of Pascal - which I am sure was not your intention. Perhaps you could, very politely, cite some direct evidence.


    Or, maybe you are just referring to that fact that cancer, a major killer of older people, does indeed kill 10s of 1000s of vaccinated people (since almost everyone in the world is now vaccinated).

  • From which you can say that any strategy that minimises pre-vaccination infections will be doing better.

    According to official UK data the vaccinated did contain CoV-19 up to 5x more often than unvaccinated... This falsifies your personal assumption...

    I linked an example of a healthy unvaccinated 16-year-old who died from COVID-induced myocarditis.

    Judging the face of the girl it was in the end phase of a chemo therapy and the parents have been asked to do some good...

  • According to official UK data the vaccinated did contain CoV-19 up to 5x more often than unvaccinated... This falsifies your personal assumption...

    Judging the face of the girl it was in the end phase of a chemo therapy and the parents have been asked to do some good...

    No. The girl was 100% healthy (and a martial arts enthusiast). As it said in the article.


    According to official UK data the vaccinated did contain CoV-19 up to 5x more often than unvaccinated... This falsifies your personal assumption...

    I think for the sake of this thread I had better stop answering you: your statement here is vague, and I have recently posted a detailed summary of why it is not true (assuming it means what I suspect you want it to mean).


    Anyway - we have covered all that stuff a long time ago many times over, so no need to repeat it now.


    As Zeus46 has pointed out colourfully: betting your personal opinion against a lot of experts who have all looked at open data and agree with each other but disagree with you is probably not a clever life strategy.

  • Covid severity and long COVID is the result of vitamin deficency.


    Globally, one in five deaths are associated with poor diet

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/r…rom%20type%202%20diabetes.


    People in almost every region of the world could benefit from rebalancing their diets to eat optimal amounts of various foods and nutrients, according to the Global Burden of Disease study tracking trends in consumption of 15 dietary factors from 1990 to 2017 in 195 countries, published in The Lancet.


    The study estimates that one in five deaths globally -- equivalent to 11 million deaths -- are associated with poor diet, and diet contributes to a range of chronic diseases in people around the world. In 2017, more deaths were caused by diets with too low amounts of foods such as whole grains, fruit, nuts and seeds than by diets with high levels of foods like trans fats, sugary drinks, and high levels of red and processed meats.


    The authors say that their findings highlight the urgent need for coordinated global efforts to improve diet, through collaboration with various sections of the food system and policies that drive balanced diets.


    "This study affirms what many have thought for several years -- that poor diet is responsible for more deaths than any other risk factor in the world," says study author Dr Christopher Murray, Director of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, University of Washington, USA. "While sodium, sugar, and fat have been the focus of policy debates over the past two decades, our assessment suggests the leading dietary risk factors are high intake of sodium, or low intake of healthy foods, such as whole grains, fruit, nuts and seeds, and vegetables. The paper also highlights the need for comprehensive interventions to promote the production, distribution, and consumption of healthy foods across all nations."

  • Covid severity and long COVID is the result of vitamin deficency.

    I have seen no evidence to support this.

    Globally, one in five deaths are associated with poor diet

    I do however agree with this.


    However most of the poor diet problems are related to over-consumption of food. This is exacerbated by the highly processed nature of our diet.


    There is very little evidence that we would have much of this health burden from consumption of mostly processed food at the correct level (so no-one was too fat or too thin). Of course, processed food is not as good for good for us as a better diet, but the thing we know which is deadly is overconsumption.


    I also agree that processed food makes overconsumption very difficult to avoid.


    THH

  • I have seen no evidence to support this.

    We have to bear some more time a blind clown not able to read studies. All studies confirm V-D3 alone saves your live - of course taken prior to getting Covid...


    But clowns relay on popular news and buddies messages...If a study says there is no myocarditis after CoV-19 then ask the mirror to get the truth...


    Trollala!

  • This just seems insane!!!!!!


    Do not routinely test for vitamin D


    Do not routinely test for vitamin D
    ### What you need to know Routine vitamin D testing has been increasing owing to patient demand, attention in mass media, correlational studies connecting…
    www.bmj.com


    Routine vitamin D testing has been increasing owing to patient demand, attention in mass media, correlational studies connecting vitamin D to various health concerns, and physicians promoting its use.12345678910 Recently, possible associations between vitamin D deficiency and severe covid-19 received scientific attention, fuelling renewed media attention and a rapid guideline from the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) on appropriate indications for supplementation.111213141516


    Box 1 presents a list of clinical conditions where testing vitamin D may be appropriate, but vitamin D tests are frequently requested without any of these clinical indications. Studies from the UK, US, Canada, and Australia suggest that 25% to 75% of vitamin D testing may be unnecessary.92223242526 This can be potentially harmful to patients by leading to additional testing, and wastes valuable healthcare resources.27 In this article we offer an overview of evidence and guideline recommendations on routine vitamin D testing, (also known as vitamin D screening) and offer practical suggestions for reducing unnecessary testing.


    Box 1

    Commonly cited indications where vitamin D testing is appropriate1718192021

    Rickets

    Osteomalacia

    Osteoporosis

    Hyperparathyroidism

    Malabsorption syndromes

    Medications affecting absorption or metabolism of vitamin D (antifungals, HIV antiretroviral therapy, anticonvulsants, etc)

    Chronic kidney disease

    Hypophosphatemia and hypo/hypercalcemia

    Deeply pigmented skin

    Isolated elevation of alkaline phosphatase

    RETURN TO TEXT

    Evidence for change

    Several international guidelines recommend against routinely testing or screening for vitamin D in people with no clinical symptoms or risk of deficiency …

  • The Gut-Lung Axis in Health and Respiratory Diseases: A Place for Inter-Organ and Inter-Kingdom Crosstalks


    The Gut-Lung Axis in Health and Respiratory Diseases: A Place for Inter-Organ and Inter-Kingdom Crosstalks
    The gut and lungs are anatomically distinct, but potential anatomic communications and complex pathways involving their respective microbiota have reinforced…
    www.frontiersin.org


    The gut and lungs are anatomically distinct, but potential anatomic communications and complex pathways involving their respective microbiota have reinforced the existence of a gut–lung axis (GLA). Compared to the better-studied gut microbiota, the lung microbiota, only considered in recent years, represents a more discreet part of the whole microbiota associated to human hosts. While the vast majority of studies focused on the bacterial component of the microbiota in healthy and pathological conditions, recent works have highlighted the contribution of fungal and viral kingdoms at both digestive and respiratory levels. Moreover, growing evidence indicates the key role of inter-kingdom crosstalks in maintaining host homeostasis and in disease evolution. In fact, the recently emerged GLA concept involves host–microbe as well as microbe–microbe interactions, based both on localized and long-reaching effects. GLA can shape immune responses and interfere with the course of respiratory diseases. In this review, we aim to analyze how the lung and gut microbiota influence each other and may impact on respiratory diseases. Due to the limited knowledge on the human virobiota, we focused on gut and lung bacteriobiota and mycobiota, with a specific attention on inter-kingdom microbial crosstalks which are able to shape local or long-reached host responses within the GLA

  • Are these doctors losing their licence for not following NIH recommendations


    Over 70% of Physicians Still Prescribe Unsafe Antibiotics – Which Can Be Deadly



    Over 70% of Physicians Still Prescribe Unsafe Antibiotics – Which Can Be Deadly


    According to a survey, more than 70% of doctors said they would administer antibiotics to treat asymptomatic bacteria found in urine tests, disobeying recommended guidelines

    A study of primary care doctors found that, on the basis of a single positive urine sample, an estimated 70% of them would still recommend antibiotics to treat asymptomatic infections. According to a study recently published in the journal JAMA Network Open, this is despite long-standing medical standards that advise against this practice. Researchers from the University of Maryland School of Medicine (UMSOM) directed the study.

  • Association of Blood Viscosity With Mortality Among Patients Hospitalized With COVID-19


    Association of Blood Viscosity With Mortality Among Patients Hospitalized With COVID-19:


    Abstract

    Background

    Coronavirus disease-2019 (COVID-19) is characterized by a dysfunctional immune response and abnormal blood rheology that contribute to endothelial dysfunction and thrombotic complications. Whole blood viscosity (WBV) is a clinically validated measure of blood rheology and an established predictor of cardiovascular risk. We hypothesize that increased WBV is associated with mortality among patients hospitalized with COVID-19.

    Objectives

    This study sought to determine the association between estimated BV (eBV) and mortality among hospitalized COVID-19 patients.

    Methods

    The study population included 5,621 hospitalized COVID-19 patients at the Mount Sinai Health System from February 27, 2020, to November 27, 2021. eBV was calculated using the Walburn-Schneck model. Multivariate Cox proportional hazards models were used to evaluate the association between eBV and mortality. Considered covariates included age, sex, race, cardiovascular and metabolic comorbidities, in-house pharmacotherapy, and baseline inflammatory biomarkers.

    Results

    Estimated high-shear BV (eHSBV) and estimated low-shear BV were associated with increased in-hospital mortality. One-centipoise increases in eHSBV and estimated low-shear BV were associated with a 36.0% and 7.0% increase in death, respectively (P < 0.001). Compared with participants in the lowest quartile of eHSBV, those in the highest quartile of eHSBV had higher mortality (adjusted HR: 1.53; 95% CI: 1.27-1.84). The association was consistent among multiple subgroups, notably among patients without any comorbidities (adjusted HR: 1.69; 95% CI: 1.28-2.22).

    Conclusions

    Among hospitalized COVID-19 patients, increased eBV is significantly associated with higher mortality. This suggests that eBV can prognosticate patient outcomes in earlier stages of COVID-19, and that future therapeutics aimed at reducing WBV should be evaluated




    Emerging Role of Vitamin D and its Associated Molecules in Pathways Related to Pathogenesis of Thrombosis

    Emerging Role of Vitamin D and its Associated Molecules in Pathways Related to Pathogenesis of Thrombosis
    Vitamin D, besides having an essential role in calcium and bone metabolism, also acts as a mediator of many non-calcemic effects through modulations of several…
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov


    The Association between Serum 25(OH)D Status and Blood Pressure in Participants of a Community-Based Program Taking Vitamin D Supplements

    The Association between Serum 25(OH)D Status and Blood Pressure in Participants of a Community-Based Program Taking Vitamin D Supplements
    Background: Vitamin D deficiency is a risk factor for hypertension. Methods: We assessed 8155 participants in a community-based program to investigate the…
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

  • Conclusions

    Among hospitalized COVID-19 patients, increased eBV is significantly associated with higher mortality. This suggests that eBV can prognosticate patient outcomes in earlier stages of COVID-19, and that future therapeutics aimed at reducing WBV should be evaluated

    It should be true that among the population in general, increased blood viscosity is associated with higher mortality. Is the study saying it is even moreso in Covid patients? It isn't clear.

  • It should be true that among the population in general, increased blood viscosity is associated with higher mortality. Is the study saying it is even moreso in Covid patients? It isn't clear.

    Not at all, it suggests based on the findings that elevated blood virsosity can be used as an indicator of severity.


    Not even a mention of vitamin d levels

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