The Totally Civil Covid Thread. (Closing 31/05)

This and repeated attempts for silence and closure Covid related threads convince me, that at least some moderators of LENR forum have Pharma agenda too.

Once THuxley did leave this forum, Curbina and others want to close it. I don't believe in coincidences.

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Curbina and others want to close it.

We are closing it because it is off topic, the is the LENR Forum. We only added AI as a topic (yesterday) because it is focused on the use of AI to collate scientific information. We had a forum team discussion about closing the Covid thread and voted by a majority to do so. If the pandemic shit hits the fan again we will start another one. Very simple, Also has it not occurred to you that if there was some big pharma/deep state conspiracy to close this thread (haha- the deep state only contacts me about paying my taxes and big Pharma to sell me vitamins) we would not give 6 weeks notice - and show that very prominently in the thread title?

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The Covid-19 pandemic ravaged the elderly and the sick in this country.

No! Big pharma intentionally killed them for profit by not allowing cheap therapy. Why is the covid mortality (after July 2021) of Uttar Pradesh 1/100 of the USA mortality?

OK: The younger and fatter/sicker USA citizens partly made their own contribution too...

Are the US folks still taking Statins?? It has been proven that the initial study was a deep fake and today we know statins are no help at all even for people that had a stroke. If you have arterial deposit (very rare) then you can try to remove them with statins. Max drugging time 2 years.

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This and repeated attempts for silence and closure Covid related threads convince me, that at least some moderators of LENR forum have Pharma agenda too.

Once THuxley did leave this forum, Curbina and others want to close it. I don't believe in coincidences.

I can send you a link of my twitter account and you can check out for yourself how hard I “shill for big pharma” there.

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Quote from Zephir_AWT

This and repeated attempts for silence and closure Covid related threads convince me, that at least some moderators of LENR forum have Pharma agenda too.

Once THuxley did leave this forum, Curbina and others want to close it. I don't believe in coincidences.

The huxster left the thread because he didn't have a leg to stand on. The tide was turning and mainstream started asking questions about vaccines, treatment and mandates. I find it ironic now that mainstream is asking these questions and the mods decided to close the thread. I think they bowed to the brainwashed members. But that's just my opinion!

Effectiveness of Mask Mandates

Effectiveness of Mask Mandates

The COVID-19 pandemic is fading into history but a large-scale review into the effectiveness of mask mandates is sparking renewed interest in this…

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The COVID-19 pandemic is fading into history but a large-scale review into the effectiveness of mask mandates is sparking renewed interest in this controversial topic. The study on the effectiveness of mask mandates comes at a time when most counties, cities, and states have either relaxed or completely ended their mask mandates in the United States. The study’s findings indicate that there was no statistically significant evidence that mask mandates are effective in reducing the spread of respiratory viruses, including COVID-19. However, the study has attracted opposition from prominent figures who have labeled its claims as unfounded as they rely on inconclusive results. TrialSite previously reported on the previous data about face masks.

Whether masks can reduce the risk of exposure to contagious diseases has been a contentious issue throughout the COVID-19 pandemic. Previous studies conducted on the effectiveness of mask mandates have largely remained inconclusive with the largest COVID-19-era study showing the benefits of face masks.

The debate on the mask mandates was settled by an “agree to disagree” model. However, a new study by Cochrane, a non-profit labeled as a gold standard for evaluating health interventions, has released what it terms “strong results” that show the uncertainty of face masks in reducing the spread of contagious infections.

Cochrane organization

Cochrane is a large organization composed of an international network of reviewers. The organization is based in London and is funded by the National Institutes of Health and other countries’ health agencies.

The review by Cochrane has received global attention because the organization has built a trusted reputation by gathering much research on healthcare issues and providing reliable findings. The strict methodology used by the report authors and the peer review process have meant that the released report was well placed to spark an interest in the mask debate once again. However, the key issue with the systematic review as identified by Karla Soares-Weiser, Editor-in-Chief of the Cochrane Library is that the results were inconclusive.

Cochrane evidence on mask mandates

On January 30, the Cochrane organization published its report entitled “Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses.”

Cochrane carried out the review using randomized controlled trials (RCTs). 12 of the 78 total included were comparing individuals wearing no facemasks to those with surgical/medical masks on.

The result was that the masks did little to reduce the spread of respiratory diseases. The report itself reviewed at least 78 studies involving at least 610,000 participants. Of all the studies, only six involved the COVID-19 pandemic.

The Cochrane review results also indicate uncertainty about whether wearing P2/N95 respirators reduces the spread of respiratory diseases. The review further indicates that hand hygiene programs slow the spread of respiratory infections.

Limitations

The review includes some studies that examined other respiratory illnesses such as influenza which is less contagious than COVID-19. Another key issue identified by Peter Chin-Hong, MD, is that it is difficult to use randomized control trials to study the effectiveness of masks in reducing the spread of infectious diseases. This is because randomized control studies are limited because they cannot be applied in some institutions, such as hospitals. After all, one cannot ethically randomize an individual in such a setting not to wear a mask.

Responses to the evidence

Tom Jefferson, senior associate at the University of Oxford and the lead author of the Cochrane review summed up its evidence by stating that there is simply no evidence to back up the use of mask mandates in an epidemic. Furthermore, Jefferson slammed some health policies implemented during the three years following the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, labeling them “scientifically baseless policies.”

The release of this Cochrane review has once again stirred debates, especially on social media, regarding the effectiveness of masks Critics of the lockdown measures have used the review to justify their opinions on the government’s needless health policies. Key among these critics has been Bret Stephen whose opinionated article in the New York Times claims that the mask mandates were a bust. Stephen further writes, “Those skeptics who were furiously mocked as cranks and occasionally censored as ‘misinformers’ for opposing mandates were right.”

There has also been a response from Rochelle Walensky, the CDC director, who says, “The Cochrane review is an important study.” However, Walensky proceeds to note that the review’s use of only randomized clinical trials and some trials involving other respiratory illnesses means that the mask guidelines remain the same. This stance by the CDC director is one that identifies the Cochrane review as inconclusive.

The director of the pandemic center at Brown University School of Public Health, Jennifer Nuzzo, indicates that the Cochrane review reveals that very few high-quality studies were carried out to determine the effectiveness of the facemasks during the COVID-19 pandemic. Furthermore, Nuzzo derives from the report that masks have little impact in preventing respiratory diseases at the population level.

Conclusion

The Cochrane report has reignited the debate on the effectiveness of face masks in an epidemic. Although the new review presents results from multiple studies, it fails to settle the debate on the effectiveness of face masks. Thus, this report by the Cochrane organization provides evidence for both camps in the mask effectiveness debate to poke holes into each other’s arguments. Despite this new Cochrane’s review, we have yet to succeed in settling the debates about the mask mandates. The CDC and most public health institutions still hold that the mask guidelines remain unchanged.

The original mask business came about to prevent surgeons and assistants dropping spitballs and nostril hairs into surgical cavities.

still one incorruptible pollie

there is hope for the UK

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also very concerned that
the yellow card system is not going to be publicized anymore I'll let you into something John we found out that just

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between you and me just between you me and the English-speaking world top secret
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um but the government have now given a contract out to a company called um Commonwealth uh several million dollars
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to analyze with uh AI the yellow card system and and when you trace back
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Commonwealth they're actually a subsidiary of um of of of of of a company in America called Green gem pack
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and their biggest customers are AstraZeneca and Pfizer

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are 86 funded themselves by big Pharma to a company which is funded by a big
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farmer to investigate complaints against big Pharma using AI

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still one incorruptible pollie

Oh com on. 100x more covid deaths in USA compared to Uttar Pradesh after July 2021 where Vaxx did start to work....

Switzerland 2022 had the same number of excess deaths (age > 64) as during the alpha wave in 2020. So this proves that vaxxines don't work at all or even worse they kill people during Omicron that is at least 5x less deadly than alpha.

The excess data of CHexcess mortality age greater 64 CH 2023 until week 19.pdf

In March 2023, Bridgen promoted a conspiracy theory claiming that COVID-19 originated at Fort Detrick.^[80]

Poor guy to tell the people facts we know from the Fauci e-mails.

Moderna is an offspring of Fort Detrick virus research. The Fort Detrick virus have been tested in Wuhan and have been released in many places in the world without great success. Only the China attempt then was successful and finally generated a well orchestrated pandemic with the focus on forbidding treatment....

Now we have 4 billion Guinea 2-4x vaxx pigs running around in the west and we expect a sharp decline in western prosperity starting in 5-10 years...

In the name of nature I say thanks!

I tiny number of excess deaths among age >85 in Australia. Just between 20..50/week/100'000 or 20%...

To many boosters...bring excess mortality.

Tokyo reported 976 new cases of COVID-19 on Sunday, down 162 from a week before, with the seven-day average of coming to 1,484.6, compared with 1,312.7 a week earlier.

The number of severe cases under Tokyo’s criteria rose by one from Saturday to five, while no deaths linked to the virus were reported Sunday.

On Saturday, Japan reported 13,177 new cases, up some 2,500 from a week earlier. Fifteen deaths linked to the coronavirus were newly confirmed across the country, while the number of severe cases rose by three from Friday to 49.

From 'TheJapanTimes'

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On Saturday, Japan reported 13,177 new cases, up some 2,500 from a week earlier.

Japan is overvaxxed: Boostered get about 10x more often Covid than unvaxx...As we know from UK data that is no longer published to satisfy big pharma...

Dr. John Campbell temporarily banned from YouTube.

He gets in conflict with US establishment!

The banned video is on Rumble,

Mr Andrew Bridgen MP

rumble.com

plus a few more...the one about the WHO being funded by Gates is also there..

"n 2018-2019, the United States was the largest donor at $893 million, accounting for around 15 per cent of WHO's budget. The Gates Foundation came only second, with $531 million. Germany briefly overtook the US as the largest donor in 2020-2021 during Trump-era funding cuts, but the Foundation kept its second place

I have not participated in this thread, but this needs to be shown:

Someone wrote in response: "I don't believe this. Cetacean needed."

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Someone wrote in response: "I don't believe this. Cetacean needed."

Bigpharma "Brave New World" now extended to all Mammalia?

"“Medical Science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left.”Aldous Huxley..1894-1963

Huxley preferred selfmedication..

Aldous Huxley, Dying of Cancer, Left This World Tripping on LSD (1963)

Aldous Huxley put himself forever on the intellectual map when he wrote the dystopian sci-fi novel Brave New World in 1931. (Listen to Huxley narrating a…

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German Study Claims Mask Wearing May Be Harmful

German Study Claims Mask Wearing May Be Harmful

In Britain, there is a call to start wearing face masks in public again because of the spread of the new variant of Covid, Arcturus. Since February,…

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In Britain, there is a call to start wearing face masks in public again because of the spread of the new variant of Covid, Arcturus. Since February, infections from Arcturus have grown to 3.96% worldwide, and there is an estimated 7.2% of cases in the United States. The “variant under monitoring” designation given to XBB.1.16 by the WHO means the variant has “genetic changes” which could affect its characteristics as a virus, including a possible “growth advantage” over other versions of Covid. The variant was first detected in January. Some medical authorities in the United Kingdom are advocating mask-wearing because in the “absence of population-scale mitigations... the focus remains upon individual risk which is, for many, now much lower.” But a recent study out of Germany claims mask-wearing may be harmful.

Exposure to Carbon Dioxide (CO2)

The study claims wearing face masks may raise the risk of stillbirths, testicular dysfunction and cognitive decline in children. According to the study, “Fresh air has around 0.04% CO2, while wearing masks more than 5 min bears a possible chronic exposure to carbon dioxide of 1.41% to 3.2% of the inhaled air. Although the buildup is usually within the short-term exposure limits, long-term exceedances and consequences must be considered due to experimental data. US Navy toxicity experts set the exposure limits for submarines carrying a female crew to 0.8% CO2 based on animal studies which indicated an increased risk for stillbirths. Additionally, mammals who were chronically exposed to 0.3% CO2 demonstrated a teratogenicity with irreversible neuron damage in the offspring, reduced spatial learning caused by brainstem neuron apoptosis and reduced circulating levels of the insulin-like growth factor-1. With significant impact on three readout parameters (morphological, functional, marker) this chronic 0.3% CO2 exposure has to be defined as being toxic.”

The study was done as part of a scoping review where literature was “systematically” reviewed regarding CO2 exposure and facemask use. The study also says, “Circumstantial evidence exists that extended mask use may be related to current observations of stillbirths and to reduced verbal motor and overall cognitive performance in children born during the pandemic. A need exists to reconsider mask mandates.” The research team acquired data from 43 previous studies of mask-wearing and pregnancy. Apparently, mask-wearing creates a “dead space” that traps CO2 leading to more inhaled and rebreathing of the gas.

Conclusions are questioned

The researchers looked at studies focusing primarily on mice and rats, and that appears to be one of the main issues with the research because the data was taken from animals and not humans. Researchers also noted none of the studies they looked at involved mask use, miscarriages or infertility and neurodevelopment disorders. They also said that the exact effects of toxic levels of CO2 on unborn life are not known in great detail.

Additionally, the lead researcher of the analysis, Kai Kisielinski, who describes himself as an “independent researcher” has written other papers claiming mask wearing may cause significant health problems. Kisielinski is also a surgeon in Dusseldorf, Germany. Since the beginning of the Covid pandemic there has been a debate about mask-wearing. Now it seems an argument has been introduced claiming mask-wearing may be unhealthy. There appears to be one constant with the Covid pandemic. It continues to foster divisiveness and debate.

Study Researchers

Kai Kisielinski

Susanne Wagner

Oliver Hirsch

Bernd Klosterhalfen

Andreas Prescher

YT protects privacy of Dr Campbell?

in the public interest

Video reuploaded, Mr. Dhand apparently got into problems with it too...