The Totally Civil Covid Thread. (Closing 31/05)

  • Let's add another reason to not trust the CDC or the FDA and the media. This should be headline news!!!


    Wuhan Lab: From Nipah Virus to COVID-19

    Wuhan Lab: From Nipah Virus to COVID-19
    Nipah virus (NiV) is a zoonotic virus, i.e., it normally spreads between animals and people. The main culprit is the fruit bat, known colloquially as…
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    Nipah virus (NiV) is a zoonotic virus, i.e., it normally spreads between animals and people. The main culprit is the fruit bat, known colloquially as flying foxes. Infection often leads to encephalitis and can cause mild illness to severe illness to death. Most outbreaks are annual in Asia, mainly in Bangladesh and India. In the hospital setting, there can be person-to-person transmission. In those infected between 1998 and 2018, deaths occurred in 40-70% of patients. On August 4, the Epoch Times took a look at NiV in the context of a Senate hearing. The headline is dramatic: “Wuhan Lab Was Genetically Manipulating Deadly Nipah Virus, Expert Testifies at Senate Hearing.” According to this piece, forensic study has shown that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) was genetically modifying the virus, violating the Biological Weapons Convention, per expert presentation to a US Senate subcommittee hearing August 3. The study is another sign that WIV was doing gain-of-function work, and CEO of Atossa Therapeutics Steven Quay argues that this de facto weapons program was responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic. Also, by 2018, the U.S. CDC had outsourced Nipah virus research improperly to an Indian lab that lacked the appropriate certification, drawing actions from the Indian government. However, this effort seemed to be intertwined with more general research and not gain-of-function.


    60 Times More Deadly Than COVID-19?

    Per Quay, he and others looked at COVID patient sample specimens and data provided by the WIV. Their work is still in preprint. Quay found, “20 unexpected contaminants that they believe are evidence of other research conducted at the lab.” In written testimony, he says, “For 19 of the 20 unexpected contaminants, we then found published research from the previous two years, confirming that the lab had indeed been working on these unexpected genes.” One contaminant not accounted for by WIV, “was cloning vectors of the Nipah virus,” according to Quay. He noted in written testimony, “This is the most dangerous research I have ever encountered….” Experts at the hearing said that it is less transmissible than Ebola “since it isn’t airborne.” “If we posit a 60% mortality rate, Nipah is 60 times more deadly than COVID-19. [A] laboratory-acquired infection with a modified Nipah virus would make the COVID-19 pandemic look like a walk in the park,” one expert said.


    And this particular type of synthetic biology is against international law, arguably. “It’s actually against the biological weapons treaty to take the Nipah virus apart and then put it back together again,” Quay said.


    Data Memory-Holed

    At the hearing, Quay listed evidence which pointed to a lab-leak hypothesis for COVID-19. WIV’s open database of, “22,00 samples and viral sequences” was removed from the internet on September 19, 2019, prior to COVID-19. WIV said the removal was due to cyber-attacks, but Quay maintains that the deletions are suspicious and that, “the database was taken offline to remove evidence of close precursors to COVID-19, which would have been a ‘smoking gun’ showing that the virus leaked from the lab.”


    He pointed out that WIV was the world center of coronavirus research, and that prior to 2019, it was home to 65% of published materials on this topic. “For almost a decade, they were going into bat caves throughout China and … back into Africa as well, 20 visits a year in bringing these samples back to the laboratory.”


    TrialSite has chronicled a timeline of events, milestones and other goings on at WIV that raises the specter of at least a significant probability pointing to the lab leak theory. But the evidence isn’t sufficiently conclusive for any final declarations. There is no doubt that the U.S. began outsourcing research to WIV via the EcoHealth Alliance partnership.


    Research on SARS-C0V-2 Cousin in 2016

    Quay offered, “They had the largest collection of raw material backbones from nature to then do gain-of-function research on--I believe it’s the confluence of those two activities … bringing things back from bat caves and gain-of-function research that led to the pandemic.” WIV has long denied being the source of COVID-19, but their government has also long refused efforts to open the lab and records to independent analysts, “making an independent investigation of the hypothesis nearly impossible.” Per a 2021 State Department fact sheet, experiments on RaG13, a SARS-CoV-2 cousin, were ongoing at WIV as far back as 2016. Again, as far as SARS-CoV-2, the activities with U.S. contractor EcoHealth Alliance and the National Institutes of Health involvement with coronavirus research should also be investigated further.


    CDC Outsourcing Research to Indian Labs?

    It would appear the U.S. had its own Nipah virus research program occurring in India. In February 2020, The Hindu reported that the U.S. CDC was collaborating with Indian labs for Nipah virus research potentially considered a bioweapon. This news was covered by multiple media in India.


    Apparently, interest in Nipah virus research intensified during an outbreak in Kerala, India in 2018. The CDC initially got involved to train partners at the Manipal Centre for Virus Research (MCVR), but the latter apparently lacked the certifications as well as approval from the National Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR)/Health Ministry Screening Committee (HMSC) for permissions.


    According to this account from India, their government “sharply censured the U.S. government’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) for funding an ‘unapproved’ Indian laboratory in Manipal, and not securing the necessary permissions for undertaking in India for work on Nipah virus, considered a potential bioweapon.”


    What? This snippet of news didn’t get much attention given the emerging pandemic at the time. But why would the CDC be outsourcing Nipah virus research to an Indian lab that lacked BSL4 credentials?


    The CDC responded to the Hindu’s outreach, acknowledging the program didn’t have the proper authorizations “due to some confusion about clearance for private institutions,” and that it didn’t commission the research directly.


    Months earlier, the India’s Ministry of Health and Family Welfare communicated in a written letter to both the CDC and the MCVR, “ordering them to shut down the study.” An immediate demand: “Transfer the Nipah virus samples to the certified ICMR-National Institute of Virology in Pune,” as well as insisting that the American public health agency cease all unauthorized sponsorship for Nipah virus research

  • There is absolutely no evidence of corruption or cronyism in public health or in the response to covid by most doctors. Even if there were corruption in the for-profit U.S. healthcare system, it would not exist in Europe or Japan where they have national health care

    Big Pharma world wide is run by Rotary (mostly) except in the old 5 eyes states with a dominant bone corrupt free mason tradition. Europe medicine is bone corrupt. Same as Japan that is run by Rotary too.

    It's all about business and your health is accidental if provided by big pharma. These companies try to hide all cheap working drugs like Praziquantel - kills most helmites and bugs that cause brain,liver/guts cancer. They hide V-D3 since more than 20 years now and since more than 10 years they hide the antiviral efficiency of many antibiotics or other drugs like Ivermectin.


    The mafia stopped a large study at Max Plank Research that did show that most brain issues are caused by bacteria and antibiotics are a cheap help. They fully stopped most hibernating antibiotics that block the communication between bacteria what stops them from becoming aggressive.

    Further the kill antibiotics by selling them to farmers.

  • Do you think, that cold fusion was dismissed on grounds of scientific controversy and differences of opinion? For example former DOE secretary Ernest Moniz nixed Peter's Hagelstein cold fusion research on MIT and now he is head of TriAlpha hot fusion company.

    Yes, I do think that (of cold fusion).


    And given (many) would feel Hagelstein's CF research at MIT was not good research, what are they supposed to do? Say it is wonderful? Be all tactful like a social worker and not say hurtful things?


    Science needs to have robust debate in which everyone honestly argues there case.


    You are adding to your CTWV (conspiracy theory world view) with the idea that every scientists who is interested in novel approaches to fusion and thinks Hagelstein is wrong but some other method (in this case RFCs) might just work is corrupt.


    Rubbish.

  • UK still has a very large excess mortality of 15% :: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplep…onal/weekending29july2022


    During the peak Omicron wave (Dec.21/Jan.22) the excess mortality was far below the 5 year average. So we can exclude that the virus has any influence. The widespread excess mortality started in May 2022 long before the heat wave...


    Currently there is no real Omicron wave as UK cases are relatively low and the CFR for omicron is far below 0.01!


    Some more data :: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplep…fectionsurveypilot/latest


    What we see on the other side is that Oxford (the main analysts) do a great effort to hide any correlation data. But from Swiss data it is 1000% clear that a very high number of vaccinated (rate 6:1 .. 8:1 1= unvaxx) ends up in a hospital.


    So its easy to guess that in about 1-2 years we will know how deadly overall the RNA fake vaccination was.


    Also Japan data shows that the fake RNA vaccination did fuel record case numbers. Just to remind you that more infections lead to more deaths and as fake vaccines promote infections they are directly responsible for the majority of the still few Omicron deaths.

  • Study: Pfizer COVID vaccine efficacy wanes 27 days after dose 2 in teens


    Study: Pfizer COVID vaccine efficacy wanes 27 days after dose 2 in teens
    The authors say the findings underscore maximizing vaccine coverage and consideration of boosters for teens, if research supports it.
    www.cidrap.umn.edu


    A new study finds waning Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine protection against symptomatic infection in Brazilian and Scottish teens starting 27 days after the second dose amid the Delta and Omicron variant waves, but protection against severe illness was still strong at 98 days in Brazil.


    The study, published yesterday in The Lancet Infectious Diseases, analyzed nationwide data from 503,776 COVID-19 tests of 2,948,538 adolescents aged 12 to 17 years from Sep 2, 2021, to Apr 19, 2022, in Brazil, and 127,168 tests of 404,673 adolescents from Aug 6, 2021, to Apr 19, 2022, in Scotland. Protection against severe illness, defined as hospitalization or death within 28 days, was estimated only in Brazil owing to the small number of such cases in Scotland

  • Inhaled aprotinin reduces viral load in mild-to-moderate inpatients with SARS-CoV-2 infection

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13850


    INTRODUCTION

    In the fight against COVID-19, great steps have been taken to recover pre-pandemic socioeconomic activity. Despite this, the inevitable unsustainability over time of epidemiological norms and in a scenario of ‘coexistence with the virus’ produces the appearance of new infections that, although less serious, affect a significant percentage of persons. Within this population, it is important to highlight the one that is vulnerable to suffering a more severe COVID-19. There are many causes that can make an individual vulnerable to a more life-threatening form of COVID-19 and, therefore, require hospitalization (i.e. comorbidities, ageing or being at risk of social exclusion). Therefore, vaccination as the single therapeutic measure is insufficient, and it is essential to develop antiviral drugs that help alleviate these problems.


    In this sense, the recent introduction in antiviral therapy of the drugs molnupiravir (Lagevrio®), nirmatrelvir/ritonavir (Paxlovid®) and lopinavir/ritonavir (Kaletra®) has been viewed with great hope. However, these drugs have the handicap of interactions with other drugs, their economic cost, side effects, not acting on the inflammatory phase or not being effective in COVID-19 prophylaxis.1


    A solution to these problems could be aprotinin, a broad-spectrum inhibitor of host proteases, such as the kinin–kallikrein system and fibrinogen.2 These proteases are used by the virus through a two-step mechanism to cleave the viral ‘spike’ protein and subsequently be able to recognize surface receptors on epithelial cells to infect.3 Recently, in a phase III clinical trial called ATAC (Aprotinin Treatment Against COVID-19), we showed that aprotinin is effective and safe to treat moderate COVID-19 by nebulization.4 This route of administration centres aprotinin's action mainly to the lung, avoiding the appearance of systemic effects, which are common for other antiviral drugs used in COVID-19. Moreover, aprotinin has easy clinical handling, can be applied for infection prophylaxis and on an outpatient basis for mild cases and can be afforded by countries with low economic resources.

  • Just another coincidence? Vitamin D is essential for proper immune response!!!!!!!!!


    Prognostic significance of complement factors in severely ill patients with COVID-19


    Prognostic significance of complement factors in severely ill patients with COVID-19
    Coagulopathy, cytokine release, platelet hyperactivity and endothelial activation are regarded as potential major contributors to COVID-19 morbidity.…
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    Abstract

    Coagulopathy, cytokine release, platelet hyperactivity and endothelial activation are regarded as potential major contributors to COVID-19 morbidity. Complement activation might provide a bridge linking these factors in severe COVID-19 illness. In this study, we investigated the prognostic significance of selected complement factors in hospitalized patients with severe COVID-19 infection. The study included 300 hospitalized adults with severe COVID-19 infection. Complement factors (C3, C3a, C4, sC5b-9) were assessed by commercial ELISA kits. Outcome parameters included mortality, intensive care unit admission and duration of hospital stay. It was found that survivors had significantly higher serum C3 (median (IQR): 128.5 (116.3–141.0) mg/dL vs 98.0 (70.0–112.8) mg/dL, p<0.001) and C4 (median (IQR): 36.0 (30.0–42.0) mg/dL vs 31.0 (26.0–35.0) mg/dL, p<0.001) levels when compared with non-survivors. On the other hand, it was shown that survivors had significantly lower C3a (median (IQR): 203.0 (170.3–244.0) ng/mL vs 385.0 (293.0–424.8) ng/mL, p<0.001) and sC5b-9 (median (IQR): 294.0 (242.0–318.8) ng/mL vs 393.0 (342.0–436.5) ng/mL, p<0.001) levels when compared with non-survivors. Multivariate logistic regression analysis identified C3a (OR: 0.97 (95% CI 0.96 to 0.99), p<0.001) and C4 (OR: 0.92 (95% CI 0.86 to 0.98), p=0.011) levels as significant predictors of mortality. In conclusion, serum levels of complement factors are related to mortality in severely ill patients with COVID-19.



    Associations Between Complement Components and Vitamin D and the Physical Activities of Daily Living Among a Longevous Population in Hainan, China

    Associations Between Complement Components and Vitamin D and the Physical Activities of Daily Living Among a Longevous Population in Hainan, China
    Background: Vitamin D and complement components shared some common pathophysiological pathways in the musculoskeletal system, circulation, and metabolism,…
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    Background: Vitamin D and complement components shared some common pathophysiological pathways in the musculoskeletal system, circulation, and metabolism, which were linked to physical function. It is hypothesized that serum complement components may interact with vitamin D in respect of the physical activities of daily living (PADLs).


    Objective: To investigate if serum complement components 3 (C3), complement components 4 (C4), and 25-hydroxyvitamin D [25(OH)D] associate with PADLs, and to examine whether the association between 25(OH)D levels and PADLs varies at different complement component levels among Chinese centenarians.


    Methods: This study was conducted in a group of population-based centenarians. PADLs were evaluated using the Barthel Index. Multiple regressions were used to analyze the associations among 25(OH)D, complements C3 and C4, and PADLs.


    Results: Among 943 participants, 672 (71.3%) had physical dependence (PD). After adjusting for potential confounders, serum 25(OH)D and C3 levels were positively correlated with PADLs, while C4 levels were negatively correlated with PADLs (Ps < 0.05). Serum 25(OH)D levels significantly interacted with both C3 (P for interaction = 0.033) and C4 (P for interaction = 0.006) levels on PADLs. At lower complement component levels, the multivariate odds ratios (ORs) of the upper tertile of vitamin D for PD were 0.32 (95% CI: 0.18–0.55) in the C3 group and 0.29 (95% CI: 0.16–0.50) in the C4 group. At higher complement component levels, the ORs in the C3 and C4 groups were not statistically significant.


    Conclusions: In a group of population-based Chinese centenarians, we observed that serum complement C3 and 25(OH)D levels were positively associated with PADLs, while C4 was negatively associated with PADLs. The associations between 25(OH)D levels and PADLs were more pronounced in groups with lower serum complement component levels.

  • Oh come on - cold fusion is boycotted and dismissed just by conformist SCIENTISTS these days.

    It was rejected by conformists and nonconformists from the start. But those people know nothing about it, and they have never given a valid reason to reject it. Read what they say and see for yourself.


    I was not suggesting that conformists are on one side of the cold fusion debate, and non-conformists on the other. What I meant -- and what Fleischmann meant -- is that painfully conventional people like us assume that laws of physics such as thermodynamics must be correct. Since these laws are correct, and they are the basis for calorimetry, it follows that cold fusion must be real. We don't turn our backs on the textbooks or make an exception for a result we don't like. This has nothing to do with being socially nonconforming. Fleischmann and I were nonconformist when it comes to things outside of textbook science. Neither of us gave a damn what other people think. We conform to the textbook norms of experimental science only, such as the principle that replicated, high sigma results are real by definition, and there is no other definition. We make no exceptions, whereas THHuxley claims that it depends on what other people think and everyone has to agree and understand before anything is true. Science as a popularity contest!


    In the same way like with Ivermectin against Covid. You're seriously delusional up to level doubting your basic scientific integrity.

    No. It is not even close. Experts in ivermectin and in medical research looked carefully and found no evidence that ivermectin works. Nearly every expert electrochemist and most experts in calorimetry looked closely at cold fusion in 1989 and the early 1990s, and they confirmed that it does work. The people who denied that such as Morrison did not understand the research. For that matter, they didn't even know the difference between power and energy. They would fail 8th grade science classes. I mean that literally. All of the claims made by the 2004 DoE reviewers are violations of the scientific method as it is described in elementary school and junior high school textbooks. (http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJresponsest.pdf)


    Basic scientific integrity is severely lacking in many academic scientists. Basically, many of them they are liars and villains. That is also true of programmers, fast-food employees, bankers and bus drivers. Everyone, in fact. But the situation would never arise in which hundreds of researchers claim cold fusion is real and every one of them is lying as part of conspiracy. A situation in which nearly every doctor and public health expert on earth would lie about ivermectin would never arise. It is statistically impossible. If there were a conspiracy, some of them would betray it. Many would have no reason to take part, since they cannot profit from drug sales.

  • Cardiovascular Effects of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine in Adolescents A preprint study of adolescents conducted during Thailand’s national COVID-19 vaccination campaign showed what one physician described as a “stunning” association between myocarditis and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.


    Participants with a history of cardiomyopathy, tuberculous pericarditis or constrictive pericarditis and severe allergic reaction to the COVID-19 vaccine were excluded from the study. Of the 301 remaining participants, 202 (67.1%) were male. Researchers found that 18% of the 301 teens analyzed had an abnormal electrocardiogram, or EKG after receiving their second dose of Pfizer, 3.5% of males developed myopericarditis or subclinical myocarditis, two were hospitalized and one was admitted to the ICU for heart problems.

    Cardiovascular adverse events observed during the study included tachycardia (7.64%), shortness of breath (6.64%), palpitation (4.32%), chest pain (4.32%) and hypertension (3.99%).


    This study is unique & impressive because of the extensive workup both pre and post vaccination as it subtracted background of pre-existing cardiac abnormalities. In real-life population the number of side effects will be thus even higher by at least 25%. See also:


    18% had abnormal EKG post vax, 3.5% (7/202) males & 0 females developed myoperi/peri or subclinical myocarditis, 2 were hospitalized w/1 being observed in the ICU Exactly what I predicted and expected: repetitive m-RNA boosters are cumulative and their adverse effects increase with each dose geometrically.

  • and another coincidence


    Striking Drop in Stress Hormone Predicts Long Covid in Study

    Cortisol could be used with other biomarkers for diagnosis

    Research identifies three potential causes of chronic symptoms


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-11/striking-drop-in-stress-hormone-predicts-long-covid-in-study


    Effect of vitamin D supplementation on cardiovascular disease risk factors and exercise performance in healthy participants: a randomized placebo-controlled preliminary study

    Effect of vitamin D supplementation on cardiovascular disease risk factors and exercise performance in healthy participants: a randomized placebo-controlled preliminary study
    Evidence suggests associations between vitamin D deficiency and cardiovascular disease (CVD) risk factors, including hypertension and excessive cortisol…
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov


    Discussion

    This pilot study found that healthy adults supplemented with vitamin D had both lower blood pressure and lower levels of the stress hormone cortisol in their urine compared with those given a placebo.

  • Cardiovascular Effects of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine in Adolescents A preprint study of adolescents conducted during Thailand’s national COVID-19 vaccination campaign showed what one physician described as a “stunning” association between myocarditis and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

    This study was discussed by renowned cardiologist Dr. Peter McCullough who was interviewed by Kim Iverson yesterday

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    McCullough asks why this kind of study - where subjects were tested before and after vaccination - has not been done in the US, and instead is done in a place like Thailand, and this late in the game.

    This is just not normal and shows something is very wrong.

  • The only comparison of lab-determined cardiac function between Day 0 (before 2nd vaccination) and Days 3 & 5 (after 2nd vaccination is Table 5.


    That shows p values for the relevant function markers which do not show any significant association (a single < 5% p value from a set of more than 20 is expected).


    So I am not quite sure in what way the study is showing cardiac function has chnaged?


    Asking young people to record symptoms in notebooks (as we know from the long COVID studies) shows an alarmingly high rate of all symptoms.


    The other issue here is that young people tend to have significant short-term reactogenic side effects, fever, etc after vaccination. Those things - just like a cold, will affect heart function. I could not work out from this paper what of the data collected is likely to be that effect, and what something else.


    A concerned person would want to know.


  • Oh come on - cold fusion is boycotted and dismissed just by conformist SCIENTISTS these days. In the same way like with Ivermectin against Covid. You're seriously delusional up to level doubting your basic scientific integrity.

    What I've learned is there is a huge level of corruption in virtually every field and industry. Scientists and doctors are not at all immune to this -- it's present almost everywhere you look. This is also beyond "right" and "left" wing politics. The truth is that people, especially when power or money is at stake, will lie and manipulate to achieve what's best for them, personally. LENR is only one example of how a combination of self-interest and cult-like devotion to the status quo dramatically slowed down scientific progress at a truly horrific cost. Sadly, those who did not do anything intentionally to slow the adoption of LENR but could not wrap their heads around the reality of this phenomena won't admit to their ignorance when the technology is commercialized.

  • The threat of WWIII isn't doing anything. Politics is getting in the way because human beings as a whole are easily manipulated and brainwashed. We need a third party that is above petty human corruption to guide us. When it comes to responses to pandemics, climate issues, and a range of other topics we need someone to tell us what must be done. The good news is that I think the solutions for most of the issues we face are not outrageous. We only make them seem that way when we interject our own biases.

  • @CM


    You say biases, I say closed minds. The problem is that scientist's are supposed to have open minds. They don't. They're like Richard Fynman, who had made up his mind that Papp's engine was a scam before he even saw it. It didn't matter what it did. His arrogance resulted in a man dying as the engine exploded. Many of the things that nature allows seem impossible, but aren't. The classic example in my mind is rouge waves.

  • @CM


    You say biases, I say closed minds. The problem is that scientist's are supposed to have open minds. They don't. They're like Richard Fynman, who had made up his mind that Papp's engine was a scam before he even saw it. It didn't matter what it did. His arrogance resulted in a man dying as the engine exploded. Many of the things that nature allows seem impossible, but aren't. The classic example in my mind is rouge waves.

    There are many examples of physical realities that the mainstream scientific community ignored due to having a closed mind. Your example is a good one. As a species, collectively and individually, we are extremely arrogant: thinking we know everything. I think the truth is closer to the other end that we really know very little and the reality of science and physics is significantly different than what we think.

  • The threat of World War Three should do it.

    Currently world war II is running - lead by the top finance mafia (FM/R/F/B) that almost certainly will kill far more people than any prior war by a "forced" immune therapy.


    What a US general thinks about the facts::


    US Military under attack - Generals warn of the Swan Takeover
    United States generals are revered as the best of the best, the Top Guns of our military, and our nation's leaders. Generals are those who lead our defense…
    www.thedesertreview.com


    Compared with the five-year baseline period 2016 through 2020, the DMED data on these COVID-19 mandatory military vaccinations show the following increases in the first ten months of 2021 in young and fit military people [3:39]:

    · Heart attacks up 269%

    · Pericarditis up 175%

    · Myocarditis up 285%

    · Pulmonary Embolism up 467%

    · Stroke, Bell's palsy, Multiple Sclerosis, Cancers up 250 to 350%


    We know that UK already has an excess mortality of 15% that is not related with Omicron (in fact anti correlated..)

    Testicular cancer among highest league footballer has multiplied...


    Here some doctors say that at least 10% of the people that had an immune therapy will die the next 4 years. Let's hope its a bit less.

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