ENG8 - new plasma energy system

The "Energicell" trademark is owned by Eng8 - regardless of what the device physically is.

https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003886028

Letter: one at least confirming claims of genuineness by powering a device from its output

Rossi? Someone else?
Wish they'd proof-read : APRA ?

Quote from Alan Smith

https://newfireenergy.substack…substack&utm_medium=email

On substack. - talking about the water cell, currently in possession of Biaco (I think) But with a picture of the air-cell.

I will bet that box has nothing in it. All they seem to do now is post links to other people's LENR announcements, and anything that uses the word "fusion".

I would be careful about repeating "claims" that Biaco has ENG8 possessions. Pretty sure ENG8 is the only company involved in this mess that have individuals who have plead guilty to wire fraud.

Quote from Alan Smith

From Linkedin.

Thanks to Brian Josephson, emeritus professor of physics University of Cambridge, who took the initiative and wrote to The Guardian newspaper on the topic and had his letter co-signed by several leading industry figures spread across the globe including David J Nagel, research professor, The George Washington University; Alan Smith, The International Society For Condensed Matter Nuclear Science; Dr Jean-Paul Biberian, Honorary professor, Axis-Marseille Universite; and Yasuhiro Iwamura, Research professor, Tohoku University.
➡️ Read the letter here: https://lnkd.in/enkxgcbP
➡️ If you’d like to find out more from one of the leading hashtag#LENR developers, join us online for a webinar with ENG8 Energy on Friday 7th February from 4.30pm – 5.30pm (UK time). Register here: https://lnkd.in/esa3kqe4

I will attend the MS Teams Presentation, Alan.

Eng8 EnergiCell meeting

robert bryant

your feedback, conclusions ?

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Eng8 EnergiCell meeting

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Quote from Cydonia

your feedback, conclusions ?

the sound quality for the first 10 minutes is terrible..

maybe next time they can improve that as a first step

no conclusions possible

would like to see a written report covering day long trials

especially. details of "should be real COP=4" @ TM 8.14

Did you or could you summarize the Lenr principle they highlighted ? Roughly how ot works ?

It's bored me to try understand what's happened between so much words.

I understood electrodes and discharges were involved in a mix of gases with a rotating flux ?

Quote from RobertBryant

the sound quality for the first 10 minutes is terrible..

maybe next time they can improve that as a first step

no conclusions possible

would like to see a written report covering day long trials

especially. details of "should be real COP=4" @ TM 8.14

Quote from Cydonia

could you summarize the Lenr

I couldn't hear the word "LENR"

just LIN- low information noise=

Let's hope for higher info.

a written report with data with error bars for several days run

Quote from RobertBryant

the sound quality for the first 10 minutes is terrible..

Media quality matters! Presentation matters. There are many worthwhile papers at LENR-CANR.org that deserve attention, but practically no one reads them because they are poorly written. They have grammar and spelling errors. Many have not been edited by a native speaker. It is a shame that authors do not take a few extra days working on a presentation before publishing.

Authors who are not native speakers can ask me or someone else for assistance. I have copy edited 344 papers. By "copy edit" I mean I corrected spelling and grammar. In some cases I recommended changes to the content. Many of these papers were extremely difficult to understand before I fixed them. People will not go to the trouble to read a paper which makes you struggle to understand it.

In high school they teach you to write neat, organized papers. Many people never learn that lesson. There are even old fashioned Japanese scientists who have the attitude that English grammar is for sissies. They think the reader should darn well know what they mean, even if person and number do not agree and there are no definite or indefinite articles. Along the same lines, some Japanese speakers never take the trouble to learn to pronounce the English "L" and "R." Whereas I spent hours learning to pronounce the Japanese "R" in the first weeks of instruction.

(The English L, R and the Japanese R are three different sounds. When I first learned this, the professor drew a diagram on the blackboard showing the position of the tongue and teeth for the three. I can teach any Japanese person how to pronounce the English sounds in 10 minutes, but that person has to practice every day for a few weeks. If you cannot pronounce a sound, you cannot hear it.)

Quote from RobertBryant

no conclusions possible

would like to see a written report covering day long trials

especially. details of "should be real COP=4" @ TM 8.14

Yes. That is the kind of change I might recommend an author add to a paper. I like to see specifics and concrete details, not just generalizations or theory.

Quote from JedRothwell

Authors who are not native speakers

The spokesman was a native speaker of British English..

on the other hand Valeria Tyutina may not be.. but her written English is OK

She has two patents in her name too

"

We expect 2025 to be a banner year for commercialisation. At ENG8 we are pioneering reactors called EnergiCells that are capable of producing up to 100 kilowatts of power, a major leap towards practical, distributed energy solutions. These reactors have the potential to power remote communities, business and industry, provide electricity and heat for electric vehicle charging stations, and much more. In the future, they may be scaled to megawatts for powering electrical power stations, trucks, trains, ships, planes, and more.

As we make strides towards scalable, practical catalysed fusion reactors, by 2026, we aim to start the deployment of 100-kilowatt modular power generators to local customers in Portugal who require megawatts of industrial heat.

The simplicity, cost and mass producibility of catalysed fusion/LENR reactors, like our EnergiCell’s, should enable a reduction of energy costs globally, for the benefit of humanity and the environment of planet earth.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://energycentral.com/c/cp/catalysed-fusion-poised-breakout-year-2025&ved=2ahUKEwjv4qiWjc6LAxVEslYBHQufImoQFnoECBQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3jw0ZeX5gaekylJZ_D3dMO

Quote from RobertBryant

The spokesman was a native speaker of British English..

You said the video presentation was poorly done, with noise. That happens a lot. People should prepare ahead of time and practice making a video. I was saying that similar presentation problems happen with the academic papers I copy edit.

If you do not make the effort to make your video audio track understandable, or you do not make the effort to write grammatically, people will not look at your work. It may seem unfair that people judge by presentation values, but that is how things are.

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Quote from RobertBryant

She has two patents in her name too

U.S. Patent Application for ENERGY CELL Patent Application (Application #20240200455 issued June 20, 2024) - Justia Patents Search

There have been some suggestions that Eng8 reactor has some similarities with Mills Suncell machine

Mills

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a 10.2 cm long, 0.25 mm diameter metal wire was mounted between two Mo poles with Mo nuts at a distance of 9 cm from the chamber floor, a 15 kV capacitor (WesVnghouse model 5PH349001AAA, 55 F) was charged to about 4.5 kV corresponding to 557 J by a 35 kV DC power supply, and a 12 V switch with a triggered spark gap switch (InformaVon Unlimited, model-Trigatron10, 3 kJ) was used to close the circuit from the capacitor to the metal wire inside of the chamber to detonate the wire. The detonationon chamber contained air comprising 20 Torr of water vapor controlled by a humidifier and a water vapor sensor. The water vapor served as a source of HOH catalyst and atomic H to form molecular hydrino.

from the Eng 8. patent

"In one example the following electricity input ranges from a plasma generator are known to enable an energy cell to function. 6 kV, IA with pulses up to 5A, the duration of such pulses maybe between 5 and 40 us and a frequency of 40 kHz. These ranges depend on the geometry and size of the energy cell. The capacitors and or a Tesla type coil may generate short term voltages that are more than ten times greater and for ten times less duration. The capacitors and or a Tesla type coil may absorb electrical current to prevent plasma field breakdown"

"The water and other gas/fluid injection flows and pressures are actively regulated with the electrical energy entering the energy cell and the pressure being relieved via a pressure release value. A scheme of this is shown in FIG. 25."

So both are using > 4KV. electric discharge and water vapour... one question is is. the 20 Torr pressure Mills uses similar to the Eng 8 pressure?

Quote from Alan Smith

It was almost certainly a microphone problem. I have been in the lab, it is one of those spaces where sounds echo a little- and the blower on the plasma reactor is quite loud. Buy a better mike would be a good place to start.

And "practice beforehand, which ruins the fun." (Flanders and Swann)

Quote from JedRothwell

You said the video presentation was poorly done, with noise. That happens a lot. People should prepare ahead of time and practice making a video. I was saying that similar presentation problems happen with the academic papers I copy edit.

If you do not make the effort to make your video audio track understandable, or you do not make the effort to write grammatically, people will not look at your work. It may seem unfair that people judge by presentation values, but that is how things are.

Millions of teenagers do it every day without issues. Home made video with great sound quality has never been easier to make.

Quote from Paradigmnoia

Millions of teenagers do it every day without issues. Home made video with great sound quality has never been easier to make.

Yes. All the more reason why no one should upload a video with poor quality sound. Yet people do. Especially older people.

By the same token, with spell checking and grammar checking, there is no excuse for writing papers with bad spelling and tangled syntax. Yet people still do. Again, old people are prone to doing this. They do not know how to use Microsoft Word spell and grammar check, or Grammarly. They should learn.

As I said, it is unfair that readers judge a book by its cover. They judge by production quality rather than content. But they do, so you have to deal with that.