Direct Production Of Electricity - Infinite Energy.

Just been reading this short George Egely collection from IE:

Forgotten Inventions of LENR, Parts 1-4

It is mostly about direct electrical energy production, a lot of which I've been familiar with for a while.

However, I'd missed what George terms a "Dark Horse":  GB763062A_Original_document_20230316224934.pdf

I started a thread on the Colman patent a couple of years back,,, Can't locate it now.

Was it this one, referring to a different forum?

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E-Cat Quark-X LENR in 1956? (Alan Smith)

[feedquote='E-Cat World','http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/05/03/e-cat-quark-x-lenr-in-1956-alan-smith/']The following post by Alan Smith of LookingForHeat.com, and is republished here by permission. The original article is here: http://www.lookingforheat.com/e-cat-quark-x-lenr-1956/ E-Cat QuarkX in 1956? Sources and background This article is based on an extraordinary patent application that can be found here: A New Apparatus for Producing an Electric Current It was initially posted on…

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The patent does seem a bit of an outlier. Whether the inventors actually built and tested the device does have to be questioned, since there seems to be little record of it (other than the patent application) anywhere else.

"LookingForHeat" post on the Wayback Machine

Thank you- that was the one. As you say, there is nothing else (that I could find) on the web. Finding this did inspire a group of Italian independent scientists to attempt replication, but unfortunately their group leader and financier became gravely ill and it never happened.

If the idea that the "cell" is some sort of short-lived radioactive battery, that needs hourly RF activation, is taken with a pinch of salt - then what else could it be?

I guess one possibility is that the cell might act like a semiconductor diode (or old metal rectifier) in one direction and an avalanche diode in the other - relying on some kind of magnetoresistive switch effect. Maybe the initial 300MHz whack creates a whole bunch of ions that remain mobile for around an hour, and when it eventually settles the switch effect stops.

I'm writing a review of David Nagel's entire article, be up in a few days. I am of the opnion that direct production of electricity may be where LENR finally ends up being most useful.

David Nagel sat here for a long time, you can’t tell where he got what from.

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David Nagel sat here for a long time, you can’t tell where he got what from.

The article has a comprehensive list of 76 references. You can see exactly where everything is from.

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if we join two tetrahedrons by the base, we get a solid that seems regular. All of its faces are identical. Why did the ancients not retain it among the 5 Platonic solids?

Because it doesn't comply with all the "rules".

There are two corners with three faces meeting, and three corners with four faces meeting.

This would cause mental discomfort to anyone obsessed with inventing arbitrary rules, who then tries to force everyone else to abide by them.

From 2012; the paper outlined here supposedly claimed that extra power was coming from endothermic lattice vibrations (phonons).

Ultra-efficient LED puts out more power than is pumped in

MIT physicists have been testing a light-emitting diode that has an electrical efficiency of more than 100 percent. You may ask, "Wouldn't that mean it breaks…

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If our new theoretical team’s theories are correct, then our prediction is that direct current flow will never be more than a by product of heat production in practical quantities. But this work most definitely adds to the body of data that must be considered in any new LENR theory.

Mizuno has also found current flow in many of his experiments as well.

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If our new theoretical team’s theories are correct, then our prediction is that direct current flow will never be more than a by product of heat production in practical quantities

Tell your team that the balance between direct electrical production and heat depends on experimental conditions and sysyem design.

Don’t disagree with that statement Alan.

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The tiny claimed excess power would be funny, if it wasn't a symptom of something quite problematic, as far as scientific publishing goes.

This graph from the "over-unity LED" paper shows that the relevant measurements were probably at the far end of their instruments' capabilities. The idea of getting accurate results at either end of the massive range shown is laughable, and yet the researchers have been able to publish without being knocked-back through peer review. Not only that, but they have been able to get away with claiming an over-unity effect, whilst proffering an explanation that is not supported by experimental results. Nowhere in the paper do they show that they have been able to measure the supposed temperature drop that they claim is the source of the extra power.

Note that many popular (and serious) science websites reported the results of the paper - using the over-unity claim as clickbait - whilst saying nothing about the feasibility of getting accurate results at these low powers. They also accepted the claim about the source of the supposed extra power without question. The slant of the stories were all similar, effectively saying: "Oh no! Someone has claimed over-unity in a test! But don't worry, everyone, we have a comforting explanation, so you can rest easy".

So why was this paper given such an easy ride? Compare it with the number of LENR papers that have been rejected because reviewers questioned the accuracy of the instrumentation - even though the measurements were within a sensible capability range of the instruments used. And how many LENR papers have been rejected simply on the grounds that any proffered hypotheses for the measured effects are unfeasible, in the minds of the reviewers?

Edit: p.s. And before someone says that a Peltier heat pump device can also operate in Seebeck generator mode; Yes - it can do that - but not at the same time...

The above paper has at least spawned a number of research projects, pursuing the same goal. This is good, and what would be expected from the successful publication of an, albeit flawed, experiment. e.g.

Electroluminescent cooling using light-emitting diodes

Light-emitting diodes with above-unity wall-plug efficiency offer lightweight, vibrationless, gravity-agnostic, and small-footprint cooling solutions for space.

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Although the theoretical potential of ELC has been known for a long time [6], it was only recently that ELC was demonstrated in the laboratory - although for extremely low cooling powers [5]. With the increase in the efficiencies of LEDs in general, several groups have started looking into the use of ELC for practical purposes

also see:

Electroluminescent refrigeration by ultra-efficient GaAs light-emitting diodes

Electroluminescence—the conversion of electrons to photons in a light-emitting diode (LED)—can be used as a mechanism for refrigeration, provided that the LED h

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