Hydrino, small hydrogen, LENR and Simon Brink & Randell Mills. The new possibility?

  • I didn't really understood what are you talking about "which reactions could run" part. Is there any example how we can utilize your model/calcs or smth else to predict and formulate any usable fuel/method of energy generation? Also, if single hydrino can't exist, what's the problem if dihydrino can exist? As long as it can generate energy, we can work with that!

  • As long as it can generate energy, we can work with that!

    500 ev per h2 via the dihydrino.. molecular H2(1/4)

    250 ev per H minus the 20 ev to make the H from H20...

    minus the inefficiencies of his catalytic process...

    also "cease and desist" ..I think Simon had a warning..??

    maybe its easier to leave Mills to run thru a few more millions

    apparently he's up to COP 4 ..

    any day now.."let there be BLP"

    as it was written

    in GUTCP

  • I heard about the warning Simon received, doesn't really apply to regular reproducement without patenting and announcing some sketchy stuff. You also seem to talk only about 1/4 state. 1/17 for example literally would produce 3,48 keV! No matter if it is single hydrino or dihydrino or whatever it can be, if it generates enough energy it is good enough. Why just wait for another 10 years for Mills to achieve something around COP of 4 with imperfected 1/4 state when it is pretty clear how to harness a COP of 100X+! Wyttenbach seems to not like the idea of single hydrino and favours idea of something he calls H*-H*, which apparently only he knows about, as there is literally no mentions of it anywhere I search outside of his messages on this forum. Mills' and Simon's theories might be absurd in some places, I totally agree with that, but they at least successfully predict something that successfully produces energy on practice.

  • . You also seem to talk only about 1/4 state.

    Its Mills who is talking about the H2(1/4) state in the last few years,,

    especially in his calorimetry, he has even a solid product with gallium

    He is no longer talking much about other hydrinos like H17

    .perhaps because he isn't getting COP 40..just a measly 4.0

    the evidence for H(1/4) is weak...interstellar.?.

    if you wordsearch this ducument


    H2(1/4) =165x.. H(1/4) =12x

    He has equations for the Et of the"molecular" hydrino;;

    If you sub in P=4 you get 522 eV and about 32 eV for ordinary H2(p=1).

    490 eV difference..which corresponds approximately

    with the 496 eV blip he saw

    US20120120980A1 - Molecular hydrino laser - Google Patents

    Yeah .. probably the "cease and desist"is just bluster since none of the patents

    have been approved.. several are abandoned..


    There is a lot on LF about Holmlid's shrunken H2... but his published experimental literature is ignored

  • THERE IS NO SHRUNKEN HYDROGEN IN LEIF'S PAPERS. It's H(0) with very small INTER-ATOMIC distances. It's no hydrino, no small hydrogen, it's just hydrogen very close to each other.

  • It is my belief that Holmlid misidentified the particles that he was seeing after the laser pulse. What Leif was seeing was EVOs. Sveinn Ólafsson, one of Holmlid's replicators failed to see the types of particles that Holmlid claims he saw. From Sveinn's cloud chamber, strange radiation tracts are a sign that EVOs are being produced. I think that Holmlid was producing EVOs. Ultra dense hydrogen is a superconductor which might be acting as a optical cavity in which an electron condensate may form. If so, EVOs would be produced.

    Check out Sveinn's (the video at 24:00) puzzlement regarding the strange tracks in his cloud chamber that only appear after the laser pulse.

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    H(O) is shrunken H2..but it can form clusters..

    Mills calls his shrunken H2 dihydrino...

    but only Mills could shrink H1

    He told many times that 4-He has been produced

    Google "Holmlid,H(O) ,helium"

    "12 Jan 2017 — Mesons from Laser-Induced Processes in Ultra-Dense Hydrogen H(0) ... The creation of helium-4 was seen by mass spectroscopy (at 36:35 min"

    Google still has it but not PLOS One cowards

  • He writes: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijhydene.2021.02.221


    Other forms of hydrogen H have been proposed to exist but have not been convincingly observed or deeply studied. The most discussed case may be the hydrinos proposed by R. Mills [4] with very little experimental evidence. The proposed hydrinos have no resemblance to H(0). Further, based on quantum mechanical calculations a form of picometer-sized hydrogen molecule was proposed by Mayer and Reitz [5] to exist at high pressure. These proposed molecules are similar to H(0) in some respects, and may well exist, at least transiently.

  • Who said it was shrunken? Leif? No. It just has very small inter-atomic distance. Not being shrunken. Leif himself denies anything related to hydrino. They even have absolutely different properties.

  • Leif himself denies anything related to hydrino. They even have absolutely different properties.

    This is the usual macho procedure. Also it was Santilli that first detected magnetic hydrogen (H*-H*) not Mills or Holmlid. Holmlid just makes guess work based on electron ejection energies from H* clusters not from H*-H*.

    Thus only facts counts. Biggest surprise for SM freaks is the direct aneutronic fusion of 4 (9) H* --> 4-He.

    The SO(4) model shows the details...

  • Honey, I Shrunk the Kids H2 H1
    1989 ‧ Family/Comedy ‧ 1h 33m BLP

    Maybe Holmlid's movie would have "condensed" kids?

    Mill's dihydrino appears to have a bond energy of approx 500eV

    by measurement and theory

    Holmlid writes

    :"H(0) with its bond energy of 500 eV [1]

    derived from TOF expts.. not theory..

    (2) (PDF) Production of ultra-dense hydrogen H(0): A novel nuclear fuel. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/p…n_H0_A_novel_nuclear_fuel [accessed May 22 2023].

    Maybe they are both wrong or both partially right?

  • Spontaneous ejection of high-energy particles from ultra-dense deuterium D(0)

    These statements are not appreciated by the hot fusionists

    especially those spending billions of $ on hot fusion..

    which may account for the shunning and opposition to Holmlid..

    It is unlikely that BLP will shine a light on Holmlid either..

    "On the target and on other surfaces in the apparatus,layers of ultra-dense deuterium exist.The clusters that constitute this material are excited and fragmented by the laserlight (when used) and give fast fragments both due to CE processes and nuclearfusion .Nuclear fusion is not thought to be initiated by a high temperature due to the laser ,but

    by the transfer from the normal levels to the levels

    ...,from where fusion or other nuclear processes are spontaneous."

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