I have opened wire gates for long traditional wire fences in the Puna of Argentina that had lightning bolts and skulls painted near the releases for good reason, under big power lines.
Energy from atmosphere
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The difference between “Free energy” and “Free, for me, energy”.
The Energy Freedom Paradox 😁😉
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Another atmospheric electricity generator from the 1920s - this time French.
Jules Guillot (via RexResearch)
I also find this rather reminiscent of the device built by Ernest in Malawi.
Guillot's "aerial collector" also looks a bit "porcupine like" - which is quite intriguing, considering some of Ernest's comments.
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Guillot's "aerial collector" also looks a bit "porcupine like" - which is quite intriguing, considering some of Ernest's comments.
That is an odd coincidence, indeed. To be honest I had not given the Malawese dude story much or any attention, and the articles about that story are mostly empty air when it comes to any technical detail, but the idea that his system is based in porcupine thermoregulation made even less sense, until now.
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I've been digging into the odd metabolism of insects and birds for a little while, which is why I've not simply rejected the porcupine story as so much nonsense. For someone with supposedly little schooling, Ernest makes some very interesting comments.
Sun-bathing as a thermoregulatory aid in birds
Heat Loss and the Body Temperatures of Flying Insects: I. Heat Loss by Evaporation of Water from the BodyABSTRACT. Comparative measurements of body temperatures and water loss in Schisto-cerca gregaria showed that evaporation dissipates relatively little of the…journals.biologists.com -
Honeybee Swarms Can Produce as Much Electric Charge as a Storm CloudDenser swarms create more atmospheric electricity, new research suggestswww.smithsonianmag.com
https://www.cell.com/iscience/fulltext/S2589-0042(22)01513-9
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In so many circonstance we can see discharge as here in this former french movie at 1:50
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Speaking of Biologically derived electricity, are you familiar with Michael Levin Frogfall ?
Bio-Electric Blueprint of Life?
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Speaking of Biologically derived electricity, are you familiar with Michael Levin Frogfall ?
Bio-Electric Blueprint of Life?
He has some very fascinating research if you are interested in the topic.Thanks. I never watch TED talks - but will have a quick look at his written work. It seems to have an entirely difference focus to the things I've been looking at, though.
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Just thought I'd add a bit more to this thread, since the electrocaloric effect has been mentioned elsewhere.
The "companion" paper to the insect heat loss item, above, is this:
However I'm not happy with the methodology of this study, since they are only using dead insects that are artificially heated - which bypasses any internal biological effects.
Note that the electrocaloric and pyroelectric effects are related. Pyroelectricity has been observed in bone, tendon, and collagen.
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The Hidden World of Electrostatic Ecology | Quanta MagazineInvisibly to us, insects and other tiny creatures use static electricity to travel, avoid predators, collect pollen and more. New experiments explore how…www.quantamagazine.orgQuote
Invisibly to us, insects and other tiny creatures use static electricity to travel, avoid predators, collect pollen and more. New experiments explore how evolution may have influenced this phenomenon.
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Really Interesting and mind boggling facet of EVOs. Ancient people might have known much more of electrostatics than we realize. The German Jesuits that arrived to Chile during the Spanish Colonial times (1700s) had a huge Van de Graaf generator. No one knows what they used it for, but they were master metal workers and the Ranch where they had their foundry is where this apparatus was found and seized when the Jesuits were “outlawed” by the Spanish crown. In this same Ranch was found in modern times this so called “meteorite” which has a puzzling mixture of features and a rectangular chunk missing had been taken out of it.
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Interesting. What evidence do we have for this?
Robert Jemison Van de Graaff (December 20, 1901 – January 16, 1967)
Obviously it was not literally a VdG Generator (which is a 20th century machine) but there were electrostatic machines in the 18th century.
Even nowadays we use sparks to cut blind square holes in hard metals.
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Interesting. What evidence do we have for this
There’s a Chilean Physics engineer with an interest in Jesuit History that has tracked this story for over a decade now. The Jesuit leader in Chile in the interesting time frame was a German count (Heimbhousen). This guy published a book that was very expensive and now is nearly impossible to find.
He also took part in the efforts to characterize the “meteorite” mentioned. I talked to him online many times a decade ago ago but after leaving facebook for good, I have not been able to reconnect with him through e mail.
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Thanks Curbina - I can see that I'll have to dig into this a bit more.
It's off topic for this forum, but I do have an interest in the spread of metallurgical knowledge and techniques across Europe during the middle ages - and particularly the role of Cistercians. For instance, there is archaeological evidence, in this part of England, of quite advanced iron smelting in Cistercian industrial granges - but some of the techniques were deemed lost following the dissolution of the English monasteries (1536-1541) - and had to be re-invented many years later.
The later Jesuit activities are another avenue to follow.
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Thanks Curbina - I can see that I'll have to dig into this a bit more.
It's off topic for this forum, but I do have an interest in the spread of metallurgical knowledge and techniques across Europe during the middle ages - and particularly the role of Cistercians. For instance, there is archaeological evidence, in this part of England, of quite advanced iron smelting in Cistercian industrial granges - but some of the techniques were deemed lost following the dissolution of the English monasteries (1536-1541) - and had to be re-invented many years later.
The later Jesuit activities are another avenue to follow.
This is a sort ot summary, it mentions in one chapter the “electric machine”. Unfortunately only in Spanish.
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I think that machine is not a VdG but an 'electrophorus'.
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These machines are actually of the right era. Friction devices using a spinning glass globe.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Hauksbee
And: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Matthias_Bose
Although whether they could have obtained enough power to carry out any form of early EDM seems a bit doubtful, to me.
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