Tibi's exploration of high current sparks

  • can thanks for the radio receiver tips.


    Should I consider purchasing a radio spectrum analyzer? i.e. TinySa Ultra, range: 100kHz...5.3GHz, ~200$

    What would be the use of it? Is there any documented RF spectra of skarks vs. EVOs? What does "Screenshot_20201101_111835_w-wire_fully-extended-antenna.png" represent?


    Should I consider purchasing a X-ray(+Gamma) spectrum analyzers? i.e. Radiacode 102, range: 0.02…3 MeV, ~320$

    EVO generation produces a "flat" X-Ray spectrum at the low end, with no characteristic peaks? If a metal is in the vicinity, then a characteristic spectra would appear?

    So, metals (aluminum or copper foil, etc.) would have to be in very close proximity to the X-ray film or you might not see anything directly with it.

    Such purchases by a LENR enthusiast are considered good tool investments or rather toys to explore with?

  • Should I consider purchasing a radio spectrum analyzer? i.e. TinySa Ultra, range: 100kHz...5.3GHz, ~200$

    What would be the use of it? Is there any documented RF spectra of skarks vs. EVOs? What does "Screenshot_20201101_111835_w-wire_fully-extended-antenna.png" represent?


    I think the spectrum is too much dependent on the characteristics of the antenna and how the radio waves propagate in the environment to be any useful. At the time I used this RTL-based software-defined radio receiver: https://www.nooelec.com/store/…eivers/nesdr-smartee.html together with this spectrum analyzer software (outdated and buggy): https://github.com/pavels/spektrum


    Although in the end I just wrote simplified interfacing software in python that only measured the signal amplitude over time (I don't have that code anymore).


    The gray spectrum in the screenshot is that obtained during a plasma electrolysis test, as measured with that device and its fully extended telescopic antenna mast at 40-50 cm distance (if I recall correctly) from the reaction vessel.


    Should I consider purchasing a X-ray(+Gamma) spectrum analyzers? i.e. Radiacode 102, range: 0.02…3 MeV, ~320$

    EVO generation produces a "flat" X-Ray spectrum at the low end, with no characteristic peaks? If a metal is in the vicinity, then a characteristic spectra would appear?

    I don't have direct experience with them and wouldn't feel comfortable with recommending other people to purchase specific equipment that I have no real idea if it works or not. And, you might end up getting a broad signal similar to the RF one I measured, without any other useful information attached to it.


    I mentioned it earlier, but other groups in very loosely related experiments have used "blind", highly amplified photomultiplier tubes (not exposed to any light, but with their end-window covered with aluminum foil or other metal sheets) and when they have a signal, there's a general broadband increase mostly concentrated at low frequencies/energies in the signal spectrum, with some peaks at higher ones of difficult interpretation. Removing the foils also removes most of the signal.


    Such purchases by a LENR enthusiast are considered good tool investments or rather toys to explore with?

    I think successful detection with metal foil+X-ray film would give a very probable indication that some sort of anomalous particle emission is actually occurring (assuming no issues with the experimental protocol / x-ray film handling); the only problem is that it doesn't work in real-time. Other methods may be too susceptible to interpretation issues or ordinary electrical/RF noise (although Shoulders and colleagues argued that the RF noise is EVO evidence, so your mileage may vary).

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  • What about thin paper impregnated with an electrolyte of some sort (although you'd have to pick one that doesn't attack the aluminum foil or use a different material than aluminum).

    This was the idea, however my paper was too thick. I could try later tearing down a low voltage electrolytic capacitor to extract the thin porous membrane (paper impregnated with electrolyte)...

    I tried a low voltage discharge using the impregnated paper obtained from an electrolytic capacitor.


    Not much is happening, only a small spark where the capacitor's wire lands, no secondary discharges. I did add a drop of water. I tried several times to discharge the capacitor, that is why multiple spots are visible on the samples with this brown paper. I tried both papers of the two separators. I also tried the capacitor original electrode enveloped in the paper. The effect is not there using this paper (maybe the paper is to thick and the electrolyte is not low impedance enough so the water layer doesn't suffer dielectric breakdown). The effect is there with the water only method (top 2 samples near the pipette).

  • On "trace"-like witness marks, this is only a preview, it is my first attempt to search for them, and I don't have my hopes up high:


    I had a brief look under the microscope (which I have laying around the house - old, cheap, noname, student's monocular compound microscope) on the top left foil pair from post #65, the one that seemingly had the largest area of marks. The goal was to try to get a feel on what trace-hunting would be about using the very limited gear and skills I have. I don't think this optical microscope's resolution is necessarily enough to resolve such features on the visible wavelength spectrum, however maybe there is a chance for larger EVOs to produce visible marks and it's worth looking for.


    The pink hue is due to using UV light.


    The sample was not pre-mapped to rule out any marks prior to experiment.

    The sample was not handled with upmost care to avoid rubbing, scratching, 3-body interaction.


    Knowing the above, one can expect some marks. I would characterize some as scratches and some that exhibit a periodic pattern. I am not confident at all how and what to look for.


    I suspect a metallurgical microscope with polarized illumination capabilities and good objectives could yield better results, yet could be still insufficient compared to SEM. Does anybody have experience to share on EVO trace witness marks on metals?

  • Not much is happening, only a small spark where the capacitor's wire lands, no secondary discharges. I did add a drop of water. I tried several times to discharge the capacitor, that is why multiple spots are visible on the samples with this brown paper. I tried both papers of the two separators. I also tried the capacitor original electrode enveloped in the paper. The effect is not there using this paper (maybe the paper is to thick and the electrolyte is not low impedance enough so the water layer doesn't suffer dielectric breakdown). The effect is there with the water only method (top 2 samples near the pipette).


    It might indeed be that the discharge occurs too slowly with an only mildly conductive film in between, whereas with distilled water the metal surfaces may eventually directly get in contact with each other (~0 ohm) and the capacitor will discharge all of its energy rapidly, limited only by its internal resistance.


    But then, for a faster rate of discharge—with possibly larger effects—perhaps a low-ESR capacitor might be more suitable (and more durable) for these tests? But in that case you'll probably have to increase voltage to reach the same energies, at least using typical film/ceramic/pulse capacitors intended for rapid discharge.

  • I liked this event so posting here!


    I can get a crater most of the time, rarely multiple at once, rarely the emissions return and punch a crater in the opposite direction, grounded pin does not seem to influence most events. I used a thicker base plate with lifted edges to retain water then I began to limit the contact points with tape, and then eventually reduced to a 4mm circle to make the event point predictable. I've tried multiple layers of foil, think 3 or 4 were the most I could punch through, Tried with additional foil a few cm above (no witness marks I could see by eye).

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