@Joshua Crude
You've made my point. You selected three examples that were immediately reproducible and a fourth that was not. Cold fusion got banished to the Siberia of science. But if the fire can be lit on command, then all will be forgiven and it will need to be reconciled with current theory. In the meantime ... who cares? Haters gotta hate. There is no point in arguing theory unless that discussion takes us closer to the goal of reproducibility. The rest is froth.
hendersonmj
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One test of any model (theory) is: "Does this model suggest a range of changes to the protocol that will improve the outcome in a predictable way?"
Go back a few millenia. Some early human watched a burning tree and said "Gee I'd like to have that without waiting for lightning to strike, anywhere, any time." With practice, that person figured out how to light fire. Perhaps it was pure trial-and-error. Or perhaps along the way, model theories (fuel, air, ignition source, low humidity, ...) were created, tested, and discarded until a simple and reliable protocol was achieved.
And others who followed came up with alternatives and improvements. But they began from a model that they already knew worked. "Water is bad for fire" or "Tinder needs to be packed tightly" or "concentrated sunshine could replace flint sparks" ... each suggested improvement comes from a possibly imperfect current understanding of fire. Testing those improvements leads to an improved model.
Today, my internal combustion car lights a fire many times a second using hydrocarbon liquids fuel, filtered air, high precision injectors, and a high voltage discharge under continuous monitoring by a computer. Computational fluid dynamics was used to refine and shape the flame. The model is quite robust.
I believe the challenge to the LENR community is NOT "how do we make this theory conform to existing understanding of subatomic physics." That will come later.
Rather the challenge is "how do we apply this model to make LENR reactions occur repeatably at the time and place of our choosing." The model certainly suggests many, many directions for exploration. As those prove correct or are falsified, improve the model.
There was a time when observation preceded theory in physics. That period seems to have died in the last century. Today it seems theory must precede experimental observation or you are considered a kook out on the fringe. That seems sad.
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Another way to deflect and capture escaping muons is to place the experiment between charged plates. Perhaps you could even measure an electric current as they are captured.
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It is fantastic to read through all this when positive results do not lead to accusations of fraud or incompetence. The gaps and holes in the experiments are genuine, but quite understandable at this point.
Well stated. I, for one, appreciate the tone of this [lexicon]conversation[/lexicon]. We are on a search for Nessie or Big Foot. The dim, off-focus images I see on my computer are as trustworthy as any other stuff the internet sends my way. It doesn't matter how much any of us wants to believe (or disbelieve), let's be scientists first and work the possibilities. I have learned a lot in the last two weeks, and for that I am thankful. Keep up the great work and discussion.
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Nickel Hydrogen systems have been subject to thorough study for more than 150 years. It seems remarkable that this observation has eluded catalytic chemists, nuclear engineers, metallurgists and electrochemists until now. What makes this protocol so special?
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Jack Cole
" but it seems unlikely that this dust would accumulate right around the cell"If the cell has an electrostatic charge, it could attract dust.
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brian ahern
Ni is magnetic to its Curie temperature of 355 degrees C. Below the Curie temperature, electronic spins are aligned. Above the Curie temperature, spins are random and only align if an external field is applied. In this experiment, I would expect a magnetic field to be present because of the current passing though the coiled wire.Rossi's work with flat, layered reactor cell designs suggests putting the reactor between charged plates achieving acceleration of electrons to 10s of KeV. That also provides a mechanism for direct production of electricity.
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What is stored at the Santa Cruz National Guard Armory? Has the area ever been used for depleted uranium projectiles or armor?
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such as zirconia or boron carbide that dont become conductive at high temperatures.
Zirconia has very interesting behavior at high temperature, it conducts oxygen ions. The oxygen sensor in your car relies on this phenomenon.
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... the oil and coal industries would have to invent her.
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Cop: "Did you know you were going 86 miles per hour?"
Proton: "Damn, now I'm lost."
Quantum tunneling is simple physics, too.
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In the field of physics, theory must now precede experimental observation. Higgs theory first, then LHC second. Of course. Poor Einstein et al, they observed the photoelectric effect first, then explained it with quantum theory. What fools.
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Three points:
1) Iron was present in the Lugano fuel. Iron is used as a catalyst to split diatomic hydrogen at high temperature and pressure in the Hader process. This technology relies on iron to split H from OH. We should evaluate the addition of rust particles to Rossi replication cells.2) Is this LENR? It should be easy to perform isotopic analysis on iron, nickel, lithium, and hydrogen to find out.
3) Sunshine to hydrogen.
A while back I was intrigued by work on direct sunshine-to-hydrogen electrolysis being done in Colorado. Imagine a solar panel that spews hydrogen (and oxygen) which could then be collected for use on demand in a fuel cell at night. At the time, efficiency losses in traditional solar panels and in electrolysis were too high to make it viable, hence the idea to mimic plants and do the deed in a single step. That work was underway a decade or more ago, they were apparently unsuccessful.
This opens a new avenue in which traditional solar arrays -- now an order of magnitude less expensive and modestly more efficient -- can generate DC which can more efficiently be converted to hydrogen.
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These will handle the temperature just fine, use them as the primary furnace. Use the Kanthal wrap only to provide minimum control current and the magnetic field.
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The crowd in the chat kept goading me356 to push for 1200 degrees and to vary the current.
The image of the hot spot glowing blue through the metal shield made me wonder if this wasn't a runaway reaction.
Dude - If your heart is correct, you built a nuclear reactor. Be gentle and patient with it.
Try again, but this time tune out the crowd. Come up with a plan. Personally I would like to see it soak a few hours at 1050 degrees C to allow H time to infiltrate the Ni lattice. Watch for temperature excursions that might indicate a sputtering "flame". Then take it up in 50 degree steps an hour per step. If you need to reduce the current to stay at the target temperature, you'll know you have something.
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Vasilenko has estimated he will start testing in the evening (Volgograd Russia?) after moving his gear to a better vented place. I believe times shown below are my local time, in the central US.
Denis Vasilenko
We need to move equipment into the house, the room is no longer an experiment to do, it will be very hot, and heat above 20C I can not stand. I will try as early as possible all carry and set up, will run in the streets of a private house.
today at 1:53 amHayk Meet Malkit
Denis , if the reaction goes, the fuel for three months there))) you know?)
today at 2:33 am to DenisDenis Vasilenko
Ike , yes, but I'm up to two days and will have to travel.
today at 2:34 am to AykHayk Meet Malkit
Denis , when starting?
one hour ago to DenisDenis Vasilenko
Ike , I want to have time in the evening, and now it will be lucky to connect and check for everything to work.
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His previous run with quartz tubing was a "successful failure", it proved that quartz cannot handle the environment. He received high quality alumina parts several days ago. Now he is ready to roll again.
See his posts on http://vk.com/firaxtech
Protip: Use Chrome with Google's translate extension.
Reading his stuff, he is becoming my new hero for resourcefulness. His quartz tubing trials were a way to get a jump start while waiting for ceramic parts on backorder. His solution was to buy halogen lamps and cut ends off the quartz tubing with a Dremel tool.
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His previous run with quartz tubing was a "successful failure", it proved that quartz cannot handle the environment. He received high quality alumina parts several days ago. Now he is ready to roll again.
See his posts on http://vk.com/firaxtech
Protip: Use Chrome with Google's translate extension.